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[MENTION=40954]Antares[/MENTION]
Dante vs Antares: The USA - Created & Greatness Achieved with Wealth ReDistribution so says Dante
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I believe there is ample evidence in US History to prove the USA was created with and sustained it's great prosperity because of the concept and principles of wealth distribution.
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Let us move away from current faux-libertarian definitions/spin of wealth involving the terms labor and taxes.
Let us move away from current communistic and conservative definitions/spin of the terms weath distribution/wealth redistribution.
Let us move away from dueling quotes of the founders and framers as that can be an endless circle where they are shown to oppose each other and contradict themselves.
Let us agree to definitions ourselves. Let us agree to look at the actions and facts that determined the course the USA took, not what opponents of those actions wanted and lost out on.
If we agree to this it will be interesting and informative.
Dante
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The War of Indepence: The Continental Congress had little power of taxation: The Continental Congress as well as individual colonies/states issued paper money. This was a hudden tax on the people, for when the paper was redeemed who was it that paid?
Do you Antares, agree?
The Articles of Confederation were weak and the governments were struggling with debt. The new Constitution remedied this. All debts were consolidated. They were paid off and the nation's credit was established as strong. Who paid? Was it a redistribution of wealth or did everyone and every state pay and get paid on their own debt? I think the Continental Congress had far less debt than the states. The fed paid off the debts. Equally, to each his own debt owed? Or did others help pay off the debt others accrued?
Jackson comes along later, he hates debt. His paying off the national debt fully...with whose money? Hastens and worsens an already approaching bubble burst. Agreed?
Dante vs Antares: The USA - Created & Greatness Achieved with Wealth ReDistribution so says Dante
Challenge accepted: http://www.usmessageboard.com/bull-...antares-to-1-month-ban-penalty-for-loser.html
There is a Board/Forum for comments by members: Bull Ring Discussion and Call-outs http://www.usmessageboard.com/bull-...antares-to-1-month-ban-penalty-for-loser.html
The rules of the Bull Ring explain how posts in this thread by anyone other than the two participants will removed.
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http://www.usmessageboard.com/bull-ring-discussions-and-call-outs/
I believe there is ample evidence in US History to prove the USA was created with and sustained it's great prosperity because of the concept and principles of wealth distribution.
---------
Let us move away from current faux-libertarian definitions/spin of wealth involving the terms labor and taxes.
Let us move away from current communistic and conservative definitions/spin of the terms weath distribution/wealth redistribution.
Let us move away from dueling quotes of the founders and framers as that can be an endless circle where they are shown to oppose each other and contradict themselves.
Let us agree to definitions ourselves. Let us agree to look at the actions and facts that determined the course the USA took, not what opponents of those actions wanted and lost out on.
If we agree to this it will be interesting and informative.
Dante
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The War of Indepence: The Continental Congress had little power of taxation: The Continental Congress as well as individual colonies/states issued paper money. This was a hudden tax on the people, for when the paper was redeemed who was it that paid?
Do you Antares, agree?
The Articles of Confederation were weak and the governments were struggling with debt. The new Constitution remedied this. All debts were consolidated. They were paid off and the nation's credit was established as strong. Who paid? Was it a redistribution of wealth or did everyone and every state pay and get paid on their own debt? I think the Continental Congress had far less debt than the states. The fed paid off the debts. Equally, to each his own debt owed? Or did others help pay off the debt others accrued?
Jackson comes along later, he hates debt. His paying off the national debt fully...with whose money? Hastens and worsens an already approaching bubble burst. Agreed?
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