Danger: NOT Politically Correct!!!

[skye]

I don't get it why some people here are zooming in ... in fat..... we are talking everything here not just that.... now if some stink that's another story,they should take it to soap and water for heavens sake!

 

[Michelle420]

I don't get it why some people here are zooming in ... in fat..... we are talking everything here not just that.... now if some stink that's another story,they should take it to soap and water for heavens sake!

We are talking about the article in the original post which is about overweight people.

 

[skye]

so what.... if they are happy overweight so what..... let them be...

what I don't like is PC vocabulary. That's all.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

You have disclosed that you yourself are overweight, do you feel you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for because you are overweight?

I would hire you if you were a good worker.

The article is about chastising overweight fat people, not people who have any medical condition that can cause body odor, which happens to exist to.

Personal relationships are handled personally and with sensitivity in my life because anyone close to me matters a lot to me.

I am not overweight. I have a tendency to be overweight and I have been overweight in my life, but I fight back and do everything I can to keep my weight reasonable. My weight is within my healthy BMI range right now. Although at the high end.

As for work, my qualifications and skills are good enough that people have never seemed to have an issue with me being a few pounds overweight. Besides, in this day and age, there seem to be more fat people than thin people! Especially women.

Most of the people I've run across who stink do NOT have a medical condition. They simply don't bother taking a shower or putting on clean clothes most days.

I would have no problem working with you if you were overweight.

There are medical conditions that can cause body odor I have met one person in a work environment that had one many years ago, he had a doctors note and so we dealt with it.

There are also people who where perfumes, aftershave also smokers, who have a smell while some may like it others may not.

If something interferes with the ability to excel in work performance usually management sets goals or addresses it.

Being overweight or fat is does not mean a person won't excel in there work.

My question to you was: If you were in your "overweight" phase do you think you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for simply because you are overweight?

That is what the article in the original post is about.

Okay, fair enough, let me try to answer that.

First of all, when I am fat, my self-esteem is not very good. Because I myself don't approve of my fatness. I am disappointed in myself.

Therefore, I fully expect it to affect my employability. If I am slim and looking good, well-dressed and nicely groomed, I imagine that I am an all-around better candidate for the job.

I have hired people who were overweight, QUITE overweight, to work at a front desk where they greeted visitors, clients, etc. So, let's get that out right now...I personally do not discriminate against fat people.

Should I not be hired for a job I am qualified for simply because I am overweight? I fully expect that to happen. I expect to be discriminated against because I am fat. That's why I work so hard to keep my weight under control.

Is it right? Is it fair if someone doesn't hire me because I am fat? Depends. If they have high-powered clients coming in and I don't portray the image they want of their company, they have every right not to hire me. Many things come into play when candidates are considered for a job opening. The overall first impression you give to people does play a part in your success at getting jobs. Your weight is something you have control over.

 

[MeBelle]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

Gracie, you forgot OLD!

Actually...

Your kindness comes through your posts.

We should all be struck blind!
Thank goodness PCs don't have smellavision...yet!

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

By the way, I used to date a lawyer and he told me about a woman they had working at the law office and she had a body odor problem. It was a medical problem. But she stank, really bad. The entire office would be filled with her odor. Clients were not impressed with the atmosphere of their offices.

He had to let her go. Now this was a lawyer. So, believe me he knew that he had every right to fire her, medical reasons or not. An employer cannot be expected to have an individual working in his offices who stinks the whole place up.

He said he saw her a year or so later, and she ran up to him smiling. She did not stink. As a result of being fired, she had sought medical help for her problem and had succeeded in getting her body odor under control. She actually thanked him for forcing her to confront her problem.

 

[Michelle420]

I am not overweight. I have a tendency to be overweight and I have been overweight in my life, but I fight back and do everything I can to keep my weight reasonable. My weight is within my healthy BMI range right now. Although at the high end.

As for work, my qualifications and skills are good enough that people have never seemed to have an issue with me being a few pounds overweight. Besides, in this day and age, there seem to be more fat people than thin people! Especially women.

Most of the people I've run across who stink do NOT have a medical condition. They simply don't bother taking a shower or putting on clean clothes most days.

I would have no problem working with you if you were overweight.

There are medical conditions that can cause body odor I have met one person in a work environment that had one many years ago, he had a doctors note and so we dealt with it.

There are also people who where perfumes, aftershave also smokers, who have a smell while some may like it others may not.

If something interferes with the ability to excel in work performance usually management sets goals or addresses it.

Being overweight or fat is does not mean a person won't excel in there work.

My question to you was: If you were in your "overweight" phase do you think you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for simply because you are overweight?

That is what the article in the original post is about.

Okay, fair enough, let me try to answer that.

First of all, when I am fat, my self-esteem is not very good. Because I myself don't approve of my fatness. I am disappointed in myself.

Therefore, I fully expect it to affect my employability. If I am slim and looking good, well-dressed and nicely groomed, I imagine that I am an all-around better candidate for the job.

I have hired people who were overweight, QUITE overweight, to work at a front desk where they greeted visitors, clients, etc. So, let's get that out right now...I personally do not discriminate against fat people.

Should I not be hired for a job I am qualified for simply because I am overweight? I fully expect that to happen. I expect to be discriminated against because I am fat. That's why I work so hard to keep my weight under control.

Is it right? Is it fair if someone doesn't hire me because I am fat? Depends. If they have high-powered clients coming in and I don't portray the image they want of their company, they have every right not to hire me. Many things come into play when candidates are considered for a job opening. The overall first impression you give to people does play a part in your success at getting jobs. Your weight is something you have control over.

Sure, it's not a cut n dry simplified thing.

I simply don't think that making a blanking statement like the author in the article did applies to everything about human beings being overweight.

I also don't compliment people if I don't mean it and I don't define beauty on only physicality. but most people I can find attractive

Thanks for answering,

 

[Michelle420]

By the way, I used to date a lawyer and he told me about a woman they had working at the law office and she had a body odor problem. It was a medical problem. But she stank, really bad. The entire office would be filled with her odor. Clients were not impressed with the atmosphere of their offices.

He had to let her go. Now this was a lawyer. So, believe me he knew that he had every right to fire her, medical reasons or not. An employer cannot be expected to have an individual working in his offices who stinks the whole place up.

He said he saw her a year or so later, and she ran up to him smiling. She did not stink. As a result of being fired, she had sought medical help for her problem and had succeeded in getting her body odor under control. She actually thanked him for forcing her to confront her problem.

Sounds like it was handled tactfully.

 

[skye]

thing is... people should not be so thin skinned....

too many lillies of the valley around in these PC times.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

I would have no problem working with you if you were overweight.

There are medical conditions that can cause body odor I have met one person in a work environment that had one many years ago, he had a doctors note and so we dealt with it.

There are also people who where perfumes, aftershave also smokers, who have a smell while some may like it others may not.

If something interferes with the ability to excel in work performance usually management sets goals or addresses it.

Being overweight or fat is does not mean a person won't excel in there work.

My question to you was: If you were in your "overweight" phase do you think you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for simply because you are overweight?

That is what the article in the original post is about.

Okay, fair enough, let me try to answer that.

First of all, when I am fat, my self-esteem is not very good. Because I myself don't approve of my fatness. I am disappointed in myself.

Therefore, I fully expect it to affect my employability. If I am slim and looking good, well-dressed and nicely groomed, I imagine that I am an all-around better candidate for the job.

I have hired people who were overweight, QUITE overweight, to work at a front desk where they greeted visitors, clients, etc. So, let's get that out right now...I personally do not discriminate against fat people.

Should I not be hired for a job I am qualified for simply because I am overweight? I fully expect that to happen. I expect to be discriminated against because I am fat. That's why I work so hard to keep my weight under control.

Is it right? Is it fair if someone doesn't hire me because I am fat? Depends. If they have high-powered clients coming in and I don't portray the image they want of their company, they have every right not to hire me. Many things come into play when candidates are considered for a job opening. The overall first impression you give to people does play a part in your success at getting jobs. Your weight is something you have control over.

Sure, it's not a cut n dry simplified thing.

I simply don't think that making a blanking statement like the author in the article did applies to everything about human beings being overweight.

I also don't compliment people if I don't mean it and I don't define beauty on only physicality. but most people I can find attractive

Thanks for answering,

I can make a blanket statement about people who are overweight. I do not find them attractive. I find fat very unattractive. However, I am not planning to have a physical relationship with most people I meet, so it doesn't matter if I find them attractive or not.

I know what you mean about not defining beauty only on physicality. I once saw a man in the grocery store whose face had been horribly burned. He was just walking around doing his shopping like everything was cool, and his face was just horribly scarred. Maimed, even.

I happened to get behind him in line at the check-out, and he was chatting and laughing with the checker as if nothing was wrong.

I told friends about it later and I said that guy was the sexiest man I'd seen in a long time. He was so brave and confident in spite of his scarred face. I swear I would have jumped in bed with him if he'd asked! (just kidding...sort of). He was beautiful, his beautiful soul shined right through his scarred visage.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

By the way, I used to date a lawyer and he told me about a woman they had working at the law office and she had a body odor problem. It was a medical problem. But she stank, really bad. The entire office would be filled with her odor. Clients were not impressed with the atmosphere of their offices.

He had to let her go. Now this was a lawyer. So, believe me he knew that he had every right to fire her, medical reasons or not. An employer cannot be expected to have an individual working in his offices who stinks the whole place up.

He said he saw her a year or so later, and she ran up to him smiling. She did not stink. As a result of being fired, she had sought medical help for her problem and had succeeded in getting her body odor under control. She actually thanked him for forcing her to confront her problem.

Sounds like it was handled tactfully.

Well, yes, he was not mean about it. He was as gentle as he could be when he fired her. But at the same time he was honest and made it clear that it was her body odor that made it impossible for them to keep her working there.

 

[Michelle420]

Okay, fair enough, let me try to answer that.

First of all, when I am fat, my self-esteem is not very good. Because I myself don't approve of my fatness. I am disappointed in myself.

Therefore, I fully expect it to affect my employability. If I am slim and looking good, well-dressed and nicely groomed, I imagine that I am an all-around better candidate for the job.

I have hired people who were overweight, QUITE overweight, to work at a front desk where they greeted visitors, clients, etc. So, let's get that out right now...I personally do not discriminate against fat people.

Should I not be hired for a job I am qualified for simply because I am overweight? I fully expect that to happen. I expect to be discriminated against because I am fat. That's why I work so hard to keep my weight under control.

Is it right? Is it fair if someone doesn't hire me because I am fat? Depends. If they have high-powered clients coming in and I don't portray the image they want of their company, they have every right not to hire me. Many things come into play when candidates are considered for a job opening. The overall first impression you give to people does play a part in your success at getting jobs. Your weight is something you have control over.

Sure, it's not a cut n dry simplified thing.

I simply don't think that making a blanking statement like the author in the article did applies to everything about human beings being overweight.

I also don't compliment people if I don't mean it and I don't define beauty on only physicality. but most people I can find attractive

Thanks for answering,

I can make a blanket statement about people who are overweight. I do not find them attractive. I find fat very unattractive. However, I am not planning to have a physical relationship with most people I meet, so it doesn't matter if I find them attractive or not.

I know what you mean about not defining beauty only on physicality. I once saw a man in the grocery store whose face had been horribly burned. He was just walking around doing his shopping like everything was cool, and his face was just horribly scarred. Maimed, even.

I happened to get behind him in line at the check-out, and he was chatting and laughing with the checker as if nothing was wrong.

I told friends about it later and I said that guy was the sexiest man I'd seen in a long time. He was so brave and confident in spite of his scarred face. I swear I would have jumped in bed with him if he'd asked! (just kidding...sort of). He was beautiful, his beautiful soul shined right through his scarred visage.

I feel the same way, just by your description he sounds sexy

 

[Gracie]

Koosh, I like you too.
But....if you think people are applauding folks who are obese by not telling them they are a bunch of fatties and that will make them UNfat...you are wrong. Mental issues come into play. Medical issues come in to play. Telling someone it is ok to be fat in unpc? No. It's called tact. Some can't help their weight. And telling her she looks good is telling your sister you love her and she is beautiful no matter what. And she is, isn't she?

I'm a liar. A big fat ugly stinky stupid smelly liar. A gal had her baby with her at the market. She oohed and ahhd over that baby and asked everyone within range if they thought it was the most beautiful baby they have ever seen. Um. No. That kids head was HUGE, as was it's body. And the ugliest face I have ever seen in all my years. But I said he was just darling and how proud she must be and to watch out when he gets older becaues the ladies will be all over him. She beamed. And the look on her face was beautiful. Just like her baby when he smiled and drooled at me.

I will keep with the pc style, thankyouvery much. Causing hurt and pain is not my style. And that ***** saying what she said...kate..or whatever the **** her name is....can suck my big, fat, stinky, smelly, stupid, wide ass. Right where it puckers.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

Gracie, you forgot OLD!

Actually...

Your kindness comes through your posts.

We should all be struck blind!
Thank goodness PCs don't have smellavision...yet!

Hey, hey, HEY!!! Gracie is the same age as I am. Let's not start tossing the "old" word around, shall we?

Now actually, there's a real injustice. I may actually find myself looking for a new job here in the next few months. People are much more likely to discriminate against old people than they are against overweight people. And age is something that is beyond our control.

Instead of worrying about all the poor fat people who are offended, why not worry about all the old people who are discriminated against. The fat people can lose weight, the old people can't get younger.

Bottom line, the way I see it...if someone doesn't hire me, it's THEIR loss. : )

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

Koosh, I like you too.
But....if you think people are applauding folks who are obese by not telling them they are a bunch of fatties and that will make them UNfat...you are wrong. Mental issues come into play. Medical issues come in to play. Telling someone it is ok to be fat in unpc? No. It's called tact. Some can't help their weight. And telling her she looks good is telling your sister you love her and she is beautiful no matter what. And she is, isn't she?

I'm a liar. A big fat ugly stinky stupid smelly liar. A gal had her baby with her at the market. She oohed and ahhd over that baby and asked everyone within range if they thought it was the most beautiful baby they have ever seen. Um. No. That kids head was HUGE, as was it's body. And the ugliest face I have ever seen in all my years. But I said he was just darling and how proud she must be and to watch out when he gets older becaues the ladies will be all over him. She beamed. And the look on her face was beautiful. Just like her baby when he smiled and drooled at me.

I will keep with the pc style, thankyouvery much. Causing hurt and pain is not my style. And that ***** saying what she said...kate..or whatever the **** her name is....can suck my big, fat, stinky, smelly, stupid, wide ass. Right where it puckers.

That's the spirit! : )

 

[Michelle420]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

Gracie, you forgot OLD!

Actually...

Your kindness comes through your posts.

We should all be struck blind!
Thank goodness PCs don't have smellavision...yet!

Hey, hey, HEY!!! Gracie is the same age as I am. Let's not start tossing the "old" word around, shall we?

Now actually, there's a real injustice. I may actually find myself looking for a new job here in the next few months. People are much more likely to discriminate against old people than they are against overweight people. And age is something that is beyond our control.

Instead of worrying about all the poor fat people who are offended, why not worry about all the old people who are discriminated against. The fat people can lose weight, the old people can't get younger.

Bottom line, the way I see it...if someone doesn't hire me, it's THEIR loss. : )

Ageism certainly exists and it is not talked about much.

 

[MeBelle]

Ageism certainly exists and it is not talked about much.

So it begins...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-fox-is-not-dead-post7306273.html#post7306273

As long as there are plenty of white seniors.

Demographics 25-54 are white seniors?

Not only are you racist but are ageist also!

 

[MeBelle]

I'm a liar. A big fat ugly stinky stupid smelly liar.

I will keep with the pc style, thankyouvery much. Causing hurt and pain is not my style. And that ***** saying what she said...kate..or whatever the **** her name is....can suck my big, fat, stinky, smelly, stupid, wide ass. Right where it puckers.

You forgot OLD!

 

[Gracie]

I'm a liar. A big fat ugly stinky stupid smelly liar.

I will keep with the pc style, thankyouvery much. Causing hurt and pain is not my style. And that ***** saying what she said...kate..or whatever the **** her name is....can suck my big, fat, stinky, smelly, stupid, wide ass. Right where it puckers.

You forgot OLD!

I'm a liar. An OLD big fat ugly stinky stupid smelly liar.




Sorry guys. I guess a button got pushed somewhere. And don't even get me started on age and jobs. According to SSI, I can still work. Yes, I guess I can, if it is no more than 4 hours a day, I get to sit often, don't lift anything, have A LOT of bathroom breaks so I don't shit in my skirt and they are willing to hire someone with a helluvalot of knowledge but don't mind my little problems. But nobody around here will hire me..not when they have TWO colleges full of giggly perky flirty college girls willing to chat on their cell phones, ignore customers, and bat their eyelashes at everyone...and take less wages because they can't count out change and have to use the register to tell them how much to give back and then just dump it all in your hand without counting it back because 1) they don't know how and 2) they would have to put their cell phone down for a minute or so.

 

[Steelplate]

What is it about conservatism? It seems to me as though their rejection of what they call "political correctness" is just a Carte Blanch license to be mean to others. In other words, an excuse for their narrow minded and shallow selves.

Truthfully, I think the pathology lies within them rather than the people they ridicule. They are so self absorbed and so insecure that they can't feel OK with themselves unless their cutting someone else to shreds.

You look at any hot topic issue....gays, abortion, worker's rights, corporatism, the sick and elderly, religion, crime and punishment....now obesity...

Every single one of those topics, you'll find the bully come out....even with religion, it's not about God's love, it's about his wrath.