Danger: NOT Politically Correct!!!

[Michelle420]

Unfortunately being PC is lying. The term in itself is self explanatory.

I don't subscribe to to being brutal under the guise of honesty.

I don't go around complimenting I am pretty direct.

Truth is I find most people attractive

on the rare occasion I don't, I just say nothing.

and I don't advocate lying. Which is what being politically correct is. If you keep your mouth shut, you are merely being tactful. PC vocalists are liars with an agenda. The use the "less fortunate" to their advantage. Leeches-vultures--Al Sharpton--Jesse Jackson--etc

Sure we can agree on your point.

The original post was more about attacking people for how they look and I really don't agree with that.

 

[Foxfyre]

But what point is there in telling her that her body is a disaster? To make her think that's all we really see? That it is more important than anything else? That she is worthless because of it?

There is a big difference in being honest and going out of your way to point out people's shortcomings or mistakes or inadequacies and thereby embarrass or hurt them. Most people know the difference between these two things.

What I bolded is really the point imo.

There is no reason to falsely compliment a person if you do not mean it but there is also no reason to go out of your way to demean a person who is seen as beneath a hollywood standard or a personal standard of beauty.

Unfortunately being PC is lying. The term in itself is self explanatory.

PC is not intended to be lying. It is intended to be sensitive to the feelings of others and to not hurt or disrespect them. Unfortunately those who take it upon themselves to enforce PC are generally huge hypocrites who don't practice it themselves. To them you are supposed to be PC to certain protected classes and they will enforce that to ridiculous lengths while being purely hateful to any that are NOT considered protected classes - you know, people like Christians or Republicans or conservatives or Tea Partiers etc. etc. etc.

 

[dilloduck]

What I bolded is really the point imo.

There is no reason to falsely compliment a person if you do not mean it but there is also no reason to go out of your way to demean a person who is seen as beneath a hollywood standard or a personal standard of beauty.

Unfortunately being PC is lying. The term in itself is self explanatory.

PC is not intended to be lying. It is intended to be sensitive to the feelings of others and to not hurt or disrespect them. Unfortunately those who take it upon themselves to enforce PC are generally huge hypocrites who don't practice it themselves. To them you are supposed to be PC to certain protected classes and they will enforce that to ridiculous lengths while being purely hateful to any that are NOT considered protected classes - you know, people like Christians or Republicans or conservatives or Tea Partiers etc. etc. etc.

No it's not---it's intended to get votes----hence the name. We've had other words around for centuries that at least had a little compassion involved.

 

[Ravi]

OMG!

In the media....and giving their honest opinion????




1. " 'Big is NOT beautiful! And plus-size is just a euphemism for FAT!' Kate Hopkins slammed as 'vile' and 'ignorant' on Twitter following TV rant at 18-stone model

2. Outspoken former Apprentice contestant Kate Hopkins - who once said she would never employ an overweight person - has been slammed on Twitter for a 'vile' and 'ignorant' outburst on live TV against overweight people.

3.....Hopkins said overweight people are 'deluding themselves' if they think 'big is beautiful', and are using the line as 'an excuse for not wanting to do exercise and for eating as much as you want'.




4. She continued: 'It's harder to be thin - you need discipline. 'Plus-size' is just a euphemism for fat - and who wants to be fat?'

5. ....big cannot find clothes they would like to wear,' she added. 'And I don't think we should teach our kids that big is beautiful when it's not.'

6. Cooper Wherry - who, at 5ft 9in and 18 stone [252 pounds] says she is 'extremely happy' with how she looks - said we should teach children about 'balance', and not to be 'obsessive'.

7. 'At the end of the day it's more about me feeling less intimidated about being a bigger person and enjoying my life. And not constantly trying to make myself smaller.'

8. When the plus-size model said she was intimidated by gyms because 'people intrinsically judge you and think you're lazy', but that she did do a lot of yoga, Hopkins replied: 'I don't believe you do enough yoga.'





9. 'I'm bored of supporting people. This country is all about support - it's time for discipline.'

10. Disgusted viewers took to Twitter to express their outrage at her opinions, calling her 'vile', 'ignorant' and 'stubborn'.....Hopkins responded to the Twitter backlash with a retort of her own: 'Lots of obese people tweeting their outrage. Take a lie down dears [sic]. One tweet is enough exercise for today.'"
Big is NOT beautiful: Apprentice Kate Hopkins on This Morning ITV with Rachel Cooper Wherry | Mail Online



This is scary!!!!



What if the trend catches on...and politician let it all hang out.....????


Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America) - YouTube

why does she ******* care?

Maybe this is her reaction to accusations that she drove a teen to anorexia.

 

[Ravi]

I bet some fatty at the dentist pissed her off because Kate's teeth are so bad, lmao.

 

[Ravi]

What I bolded is really the point imo.

There is no reason to falsely compliment a person if you do not mean it but there is also no reason to go out of your way to demean a person who is seen as beneath a hollywood standard or a personal standard of beauty.

Unfortunately being PC is lying. The term in itself is self explanatory.

PC is not intended to be lying. It is intended to be sensitive to the feelings of others and to not hurt or disrespect them. Unfortunately those who take it upon themselves to enforce PC are generally huge hypocrites who don't practice it themselves. To them you are supposed to be PC to certain protected classes and they will enforce that to ridiculous lengths while being purely hateful to any that are NOT considered protected classes - you know, people like Christians or Republicans or conservatives or Tea Partiers etc. etc. etc.

^wants people to treat Christians, Republicans, and teepees in a PC manner. If anyone ever doubted you were a hypocrite this post of yours should prove otherwise.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

I don't subscribe to to being brutal under the guise of honesty.

I don't go around complimenting I am pretty direct.

Truth is I find most people attractive

on the rare occasion I don't, I just say nothing.

and I don't advocate lying. Which is what being politically correct is. If you keep your mouth shut, you are merely being tactful. PC vocalists are liars with an agenda. The use the "less fortunate" to their advantage. Leeches-vultures--Al Sharpton--Jesse Jackson--etc

Sure we can agree on your point.

The original post was more about attacking people for how they look and I really don't agree with that.

But it's not just about "how people look." Overweight and obesity is bad for your health.
So if we can't criticize fat people, we should stop criticizing smokers, too. Because it's the same exact thing...people making choices that destroys their health.

This recent trend of encouraging people to accept their fatness is ridiculous. They can accept their fatness all they want to, but I still think it's ugly. And more importantly, it's bad for your health.

And by the way, I am a fat person. My BMI is in the normal range right now, but that is because of constant diligence on my part. If I just "eat what I want to" I get fat. I have fought it all my life, and sometimes I have lost the battle and been overweight and even into the lower range of obese. I have never been able to accept that and delude myself into thinking that all that blubber jiggling around is how I want to be.

Being fat is nothing to be proud of. And for me, being fat is something I will NEVER accept. So don't expect me to pretend I admire other people for being content with their fatness. Because that kind of destructive self-indulgence is just not the kind of thing I admire.

 

[Michelle420]

and I don't advocate lying. Which is what being politically correct is. If you keep your mouth shut, you are merely being tactful. PC vocalists are liars with an agenda. The use the "less fortunate" to their advantage. Leeches-vultures--Al Sharpton--Jesse Jackson--etc

Sure we can agree on your point.

The original post was more about attacking people for how they look and I really don't agree with that.

But it's not just about "how people look." Overweight and obesity is bad for your health.
So if we can't criticize fat people, we should stop criticizing smokers, too. Because it's the same exact thing...people making choices that destroys their health.

This recent trend of encouraging people to accept their fatness is ridiculous. They can accept their fatness all they want to, but I still think it's ugly. And more importantly, it's bad for your health.

And by the way, I am a fat person. My BMI is in the normal range right now, but that is because of constant diligence on my part. If I just "eat what I want to" I get fat. I have fought it all my life, and sometimes I have lost the battle and been overweight and even into the lower range of obese. I have never been able to accept that and delude myself into thinking that all that blubber jiggling around is how I want to be.

Being fat is nothing to be proud of. And for me, being fat is something I will NEVER accept. So don't expect me to pretend I admire other people for being content with their fatness. Because that kind of destructive self-indulgence is just not the kind of thing I admire.

There is a plethora of health issues people struggle with and it is none of my business in a professional sense. If you smoke use a designated area, it does not mean I won't hire you.

If you drink too much, but are reliable and and do a good job at work sober, then your private life is for your loved ones to deal with.

It is not really up to you or anyone else to decide someone else's health in a work environment if they are doing a decent job.

This is why many people were upset about new york's big gulp ban.

To be honest with you if my loved one was morbidly obese I would help them lose weight for health reasons, but I most definately would not demean them or make them feel their physical weight is their only value to me as a human being.

I also would not make anyone's physical looks be the main importance to me in any close relationship.

It's very popular to fat" shame, just like "slut" shaming and so on, you never see people "alcohol" shame and the reason why is because that is more easily hidden, but it still damages health and relationships when someone is a chronic alcoholic.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

By the way, I hope people see the difference between being wrinkled, or bald, or short, or black, or white, or homely or beautiful or young or old and....

being fat or stinky.

You see how we can't really control some of those things, but we have some control over being fat or stinky?

See the difference? Big difference.

 

[skye]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

Oh Lord have mercy!

Stinky people are a pest

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

Oh Lord have mercy!

Stinky people are a pest

Skye!!!! Stop that! You are being inconsiderate and insensitive! There may be stinky people on this forum!

 

[skye]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

Oh Lord have mercy!

Stinky people are a pest

Skye!!!! Stop that! You are being inconsiderate and insensitive! There may be stinky people on this forum!

darling..... a rep for you!

 

[Michelle420]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

You have disclosed that you yourself are overweight, do you feel you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for because you are overweight?

I would hire you if you were a good worker.

The article is about chastising overweight fat people, not people who have any medical condition that can cause body odor, which happens to exist to.

Personal relationships are handled personally and with sensitivity in my life because anyone close to me matters a lot to me.

 

[skye]

I have no words..... no words to convey my .... contempt.... my disgust.... to everything politically correct.

Losers..... weaklings....

That's the sort people you find at the end of the tunnel. Moral beggars ..... pathetic!

 

[Gracie]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

 

[Michelle420]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

This is how I feel about that to people close to me in my life, glad you are human

[ame=http://youtu.be/QPiK_yGG8ag]Billy Joel "Just the way you are" Live 1977 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

You have disclosed that you yourself are overweight, do you feel you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for because you are overweight?

I would hire you if you were a good worker.

The article is about chastising overweight fat people, not people who have any medical condition that can cause body odor, which happens to exist to.

Personal relationships are handled personally and with sensitivity in my life because anyone close to me matters a lot to me.

I am not overweight. I have a tendency to be overweight and I have been overweight in my life, but I fight back and do everything I can to keep my weight reasonable. My weight is within my healthy BMI range right now. Although at the high end.

As for work, my qualifications and skills are good enough that people have never seemed to have an issue with me being a few pounds overweight. Besides, in this day and age, there seem to be more fat people than thin people! Especially women.

Most of the people I've run across who stink do NOT have a medical condition. They simply don't bother taking a shower or putting on clean clothes most days.

 

[Michelle420]

What about stinky people? People who don't bathe very often, so they have quite a bit of body odor?

That's just how they are, right? No one should give them a hard time about it, right? Employers should not hesitate to employ them, right?

If you are in a close relationship with a stinky person, you should not let that be of main importance. Just hold your breath, why don't you?

Let's hear it for stinky people! They have rights, too!!! We should be considerate of their feelings.

You have disclosed that you yourself are overweight, do you feel you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for because you are overweight?

I would hire you if you were a good worker.

The article is about chastising overweight fat people, not people who have any medical condition that can cause body odor, which happens to exist to.

Personal relationships are handled personally and with sensitivity in my life because anyone close to me matters a lot to me.

I am not overweight. I have a tendency to be overweight and I have been overweight in my life, but I fight back and do everything I can to keep my weight reasonable. My weight is within my healthy BMI range right now. Although at the high end.

As for work, my qualifications and skills are good enough that people have never seemed to have an issue with me being a few pounds overweight. Besides, in this day and age, there seem to be more fat people than thin people! Especially women.

Most of the people I've run across who stink do NOT have a medical condition. They simply don't bother taking a shower or putting on clean clothes most days.

I would have no problem working with you if you were overweight.

There are medical conditions that can cause body odor I have met one person in a work environment that had one many years ago, he had a doctors note and so we dealt with it.

There are also people who where perfumes, aftershave also smokers, who have a smell while some may like it others may not.

If something interferes with the ability to excel in work performance usually management sets goals or addresses it.

Being overweight or fat is does not mean a person won't excel in there work.

My question to you was: If you were in your "overweight" phase do you think you should not be hired for a job you are qualified for simply because you are overweight?

That is what the article in the original post is about.

 

[Kooshdakhaa]

Well, I guess y'all can have a field day telling me YOUR truths...that I am fat and stinky. Will it make you feel better about yourselves that you "aren't liars" by going out of your way to say something negative?

I am about 20 lbs overweight. I have not chosen to be 20 lbs overweight. I have a hard time walking. Not due to fatness...due to medical problems. I also smoke. I'm still trying to quit, but it comes in spurts because I fail all the time. Maybe I'm stupid too. So there you go...I am fat, stink and am stupid. Gosh. Do make sure you tell me that from time to time, just so you can pat yourselves on the back about how much a liar you are NOT and feel proud you spouted out truth. And be thankful you don't have to see my fat, ugly, smelly face when you say it because I am an ugly crier. So there you go. Fat, smelly, stupid, smoker and ugly.

Wow. Great weapons to use so you can feel all powerful.

Gracie, Gracie, Gracie. 20 lbs. is not too bad. And I guess you mean you stink because you smoke? I cannot fault you for smoking, I smoked for 30 years. My husband still smokes. I guess I have a stinky husband, eh? lol

Gracie, I think the point is not that we should point out other people's faults and demean them for it. What some people are wanting us to do is applaud them for their fatness. That's what I have a problem with.

Some of the dearest people in my life have been overweight. I love them regardless of their weight. But I don't compliment them on it, either.

Remember the picture I posted of my sister with the fish she caught? She is probably 60pounds overweight, but she is precious to me. I also think she is very attractive, although she was downright beautiful when she was thin back in her youth. I don't bug her about her weight. But I don't tell her the weight looks good, either. She knows better, anyway.

See the difference. Does that make sense?

I like you even if you are fat and stinky! lol Just kidding, I'm pretty sure you aren't really all that fat and stinky. : )