DADT Vote - Live!!!

[bodecea]

Another victory for Obama. Passed on it's own merit.

Geeze!! We should go party! Your place or mine?

That's why I was absent from the board and this thread last nite, we were hoisting a few with friends in honor of the demise of DADT.

 

[JamesInFlorida]

The Pentagon survey is so flawed that it shouldn't be referenced by either side of this issue.

How is the survey flawed? You keep saying that-so I'm just wondering why you think it's flawed?



Also I love how the conservatives on here are all for democracy-they just love it. They claim it's the cornerstone our society, and it's the best in the world (I agree with these things)..until it turns on their views. Then it's tyranny.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

i didnt read this whole thread, as the OP'rs posts are usually a waste of time
but does anyone know if this bill just repeals DADT or does it change the policy to allow gays to openly serve?

They will be able to openly serve. Seems some promises have been made to certain unnamed Senators that this would be phased in slowly so that it would not affect Unit cohesiveness. At least someone is thinking a little bit. I would love to know what else they were promised.

Stand-down, Grandfeathers.

There's no room, for you old-farts, in active-service, anyhow......

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[bodecea]

McCain's legacy take a blow?

How funny is that it was a FRIGGEN DEMOCRAT President who signed the damn thing into law in the FIRST PLACE.

yet you don't hear the howls and accusations AGAINST HIM, now do ya.

At the time, it was a huge improvement over what was going on. Did you know one of the things that prompted it, Stephanie? Read up on the USS Iowa explosion and the NIS investigation. Also read up on the USS Norton Sound investigation. They were both witch hunt travesties. At the time, DADT wasn't perfect but it did end MOST of the witch hunts.

 

[Poli_Sigh]

Stand by for a reinstatement of the draft, because I can easily imagine a mass migration out of the service, if this continues.

Actually if the draft were reinstated, I believe you'd see a mass exodus from this country rather than the service. Obviously you weren't around during the Viet Nam war or if you were weren't paying much attention.

That anyone over the age of 10 has managed to brain wash themselves into believing that in the entire history of this country's wars there have never been gays serving in our military would be incomprehensible, if it weren't so hilarious. Of course there were gays serving in all our wars and I'm sure those who served with them knew it and didn't give a damn. I'd venture to say there were gays in Alexander the Great's army.

The lies some tell themselves to justify their fear, bigotry and hatred are frankly ridiculous. If one spent half that time and energy on self-improvement who knows what they might attain.

 

[bodecea]

Are Muslim nations embracing homosexuality in an effort to become "global?"

Are you suggesting that we be more like Muslim nations?

He has been, in several posts.

 

[bodecea]

Are Muslim nations embracing homosexuality in an effort to become "global?"

Are you suggesting that we be more like Muslim nations?

C'Mon A15...you know damed well what the poster meant. Stop being so obtuse. You know damned well how GAYS in Muslim Society are dealt with.

You too want our policies dictated as by what would be acceptable to Muslim countries.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

John McCain's legacy takes another blow.

oooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

That's probably a poor-choice-o'-words....well....except for those dudes who're easily-distracted.

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[bodecea]

Freepers ... too funny.

Free Republic is as Free as North Korea is Free....They support a Republic as much as China supports a Republic.

 

[bodecea]

Stand by for a reinstatement of the draft, because I can easily imagine a mass migration out of the service, if this continues.

When do you expect that to happen...cause I would like to lay a very substantial bet with you that it will not.

How about $50,000?

 

[skookerasbil]

Just keeping this discussion in the realm of real.........

Of course, the k00ks always look at any issue from a pronounced idealistic point of view, never for once considering the necessary tradeoffs. IN fact, my guess is that there is not one single lefty k00k on here who even once considered that because of this, some people are going to get fcukked up......very badly in some cases. Thats the way it works in the military.

OK for the k00ks though.......they'd rather win some symbolic victory and screw the people who are going to get whacked, abused and tormented to shit............

Thats the real world s0ns..................

Happy Now!!!

 

[bodecea]

Most "black folk" reject homosexuality.

Find a sympathetic ear someplace else.

Statistics, please.

Opinion: Why black church culture rejects homosexuality – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Part of the answer.

Rather incomplete in saying MOST black folk...I need stats from all, not just church goers.

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[Full-Auto]

Statistics, please.

Opinion: Why black church culture rejects homosexuality – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Part of the answer.

Rather incomplete in saying MOST black folk...I need stats from all, not just church goers.

I believe the original claim came from a poll conducted a few years back. There wasnt any point in posting a snap shot of the period. I gave you part of the answer. You just dont seem to want to embrace this section. You have done nothing to even dispute let alone refute.

 

[bodecea]

All of those against the repeal of DADT are skirting the real problem they have with it. While many military members already "know" their buddies who are gay, in the future, there will be no need to hide and more and more and more of those who serve will see that their gay shipmates and fellow soldiers are just as competent, just as effective as they are.....and military bonds are some of the strongest and most lasting in the world. And military members, for the most part are conservative.....what is this going to do to the social conservatives' future base when they want to continue discrimination against things like gay marriage?

 

[bodecea]

Opinion: Why black church culture rejects homosexuality – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Part of the answer.

Rather incomplete in saying MOST black folk...I need stats from all, not just church goers.

I believe the original claim came from a poll conducted a few years back. There wasnt any point in posting a snap shot of the period. I gave you part of the answer. You just dont seem to want to embrace this section. You have done nothing to even dispute let alone refute.

The initial claim is MOST black folk...have you proven the MOST aspect?

 

[Full-Auto]

Rather incomplete in saying MOST black folk...I need stats from all, not just church goers.

I believe the original claim came from a poll conducted a few years back. There wasnt any point in posting a snap shot of the period. I gave you part of the answer. You just dont seem to want to embrace this section. You have done nothing to even dispute let alone refute.

The initial claim is MOST black folk...have you proven the MOST aspect?

I wasnt attempting to do anything but to provide some aditional information for your closed mind.

 

[bodecea]

I believe the original claim came from a poll conducted a few years back. There wasnt any point in posting a snap shot of the period. I gave you part of the answer. You just dont seem to want to embrace this section. You have done nothing to even dispute let alone refute.

The initial claim is MOST black folk...have you proven the MOST aspect?

I wasnt attempting to do anything but to provide some aditional information for your closed mind.

How is my mind closed?

 

[Full-Auto]

The initial claim is MOST black folk...have you proven the MOST aspect?

I wasnt attempting to do anything but to provide some aditional information for your closed mind.

How is my mind closed?

Lets examine that.

You were given additional information in which you promptly ignored.

You also come across as your opinion is the only one that matters here.

I am not impressed. Yes I too am a veteran. So dont even try that line of BS.

 

[SFC Ollie]

The Pentagon survey is so flawed that it shouldn't be referenced by either side of this issue.

How is the survey flawed? You keep saying that-so I'm just wondering why you think it's flawed?



Also I love how the conservatives on here are all for democracy-they just love it. They claim it's the cornerstone our society, and it's the best in the world (I agree with these things)..until it turns on their views. Then it's tyranny.

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And I don't really look at this as a left vs right issue. It is wrong for the armed forces, especially right now with the over stressed military we currently have. (At least that's what we keep getting told.)