D-Day

[Weatherman2020]

I've always wondered if invading the Balkans instead of Normandy in 1944 would have brought the war to a conclusion quicker and with fewer American casualties?

Your supply line is too long.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Patton had a plan to breakout of Normandy very quickly and move the US army rapidly through Paris and onto Berlin. Thus ending the war sooner. Some think the plan was too good and they felt the advance might threaten the Red Army. US Senior command chose not to implement it.

Impossible to breakout quickly because of the excellent defensive positions of the hedgerows. Growth so thick they stopped tanks.

 

[gipper]

Impossible to breakout quickly because of the excellent defensive positions of the hedgerows. Growth so thick they stopped tanks.

No. Look up Patton’s plan which bypassed the whole area and immediately moved to Paris. Many experts believe this plan had it been utilized, would have shortened the war.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No. Look up Patton’s plan which bypassed the whole area and immediately moved to Paris. Many experts believe this plan had it been utilized, would have shortened the war.

Patton was kept totally out of the loop for planning, he was a decoy in Dover. You can’t bypass Normandy, your long ago decided landing point.

 

[gipper]

Patton was kept totally out of the loop for planning, he was a decoy in Dover. You can’t bypass Normandy, your long ago decided landing point.
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So, you’re unaware of his plan. Okay.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So, you’re unaware of his plan. Okay.

His plan was not feasible, both from a supply and equipment availability standpoint.

 

[gipper]

His plan was not feasible, both from a supply and equipment availability standpoint.

Many disagree.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Many disagree.

Hindsight is 20/20, easy to create a plan after all is revealed.

 

[gipper]

Hindsight is 20/20, easy to create a plan after all is revealed.

Lol. So you don’t know when Patton offered his plan. Got it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Lol. So you don’t know when Patton offered his plan. Got it.

That’s when history learned about it. Ike intentionally kept Patton out of the planning loop.

Calais was one of Operation Fortitudes landing points, to MAKE Germany build up defenses there. It would have been like walking into a chainsaw.

 

[gipper]

That’s when history learned about it. Ike intentionally kept Patton out of the planning loop.

Calais was one of Operation Fortitudes landing points, to MAKE Germany build up defenses there. It would have been like walking into a chainsaw.

Means nothing.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Means nothing.

An amphibious assault on Germany’s strongest defensive position in Europe means a lot.

 

[gipper]

An amphibious assault on Germany’s strongest defensive position in Europe means a lot.

Means nothing as it relates to my point.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Means nothing as it relates to my point.

Patton had a plan to breakout of Normandy very quickly and move the US army rapidly through Paris and onto Berlin. Thus ending the war sooner.

Your point is thinking a frontal attack on an enemy’s most powerful point is a good idea.

 

[Deadstick]

Impossible to breakout quickly because of the excellent defensive positions of the hedgerows. Growth so thick they stopped tanks.

The Bocage country was a nightmare, the US developed the Rhino mod for the Sherman tank to cut through the thick hedges, i think it was a US farm boy who came up with the idea to weld big teeth onto the front of the tanks, it worked very well.

 

[gipper]

Your point is thinking a frontal attack on an enemy’s most powerful point is a good idea.

You obviously haven’t educated yourself on Patton’s plan.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You obviously haven’t educated yourself on Patton’s plan.

You mean Patton’s Monday morning quarterbacking plan.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The Bocage country was a nightmare, the US developed the Rhino mod for the Sherman tank to cut through the thick hedges, i think it was a US farm boy who came up with the idea to weld big teeth onto the front of the tanks, it worked very well.

Yep, some Corporal showed initiative.