D.C. Homeless Encampments Get Bulldozed

[Eman623]

Trump has done nothing to solve the problem. Those people still exist. They will go somewhere.

They can go anywhere they like. It's a free country.

You just can't set up a tent on public land and squat there forever.

 

[BackAgain]

You try many different solutions and keep what works. You don't pick an ideological solution and assume it will work. Not in CA and not in DC.

Wrong. You assess the solving of a problem (any problem) not on some experimental “let’s try this and see if it works” basis. Instead, you assess any of the possible “solutions” in a manner most likely to actually address or fix that problem with minimal disruption relative to other things.

You do this by applying a political philosophy which demonstrates the best prospect for achieving the objective. In these matters, we are talking solutions which comply with Constitutional constraints and grants of authority. And, of course, economically, that includes things like capitalism (since we see all the time that communism and socialism simply don’t work and are alien to freedom and liberty).

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

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Nope. Plenty of programs to help veterans find a home.

 

[Eman623]

tell us about the California solution.

"
California has invested approximately $24 billion over the past five years to address homelessness, but the effectiveness of this spending has been questioned amid rising homeless numbers.

Overview of Spending​

California has allocated a staggering $24 billion to combat homelessness from 2018 to 2023. Despite this significant investment, the state has seen an increase in its homeless population, which was estimated at 181,000 in 2023, up from 172,000 in the previous fiscal year. This translates to nearly $42,000 spent per homeless individual in the 2021-22 fiscal year alone.
CBS News+1

Key Programs and Financial Assistance​

The state offers various programs aimed at providing financial assistance and essential services to help homeless individuals transition into stable housing. Some of the notable programs include:

• General Relief (GR): A county-funded program providing cash assistance to indigent adults who are ineligible for federal or state programs. For example, eligible individuals in Los Angeles County can receive up to $221 per month.
  
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• Supplemental Security Income (SSI): A federal program that provides cash assistance to elderly, blind, or disabled individuals with low income. In California, the maximum SSI payment is approximately $1,040.21 per month.
  
  1
• CalWORKs Homeless Assistance (HA) Program: This program offers temporary shelter assistance for up to 16 days, with payments of up to $85 per day for a family of four, along with permanent housing assistance.
  
  1
• Project Roomkey: Initiated during the COVID-19 pandemic, this program provides temporary, non-congregate shelter to high-risk individuals experiencing homelessness.
  
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  1 Source

Effectiveness and Accountability​

Despite the substantial financial commitment, a state audit revealed that California has not consistently tracked the outcomes of its homelessness programs. The audit highlighted that only two out of five major programs analyzed were deemed "likely cost-effective." This raises concerns about the accountability and effectiveness of the funds allocated to combat homelessness.
CBS News+1
In summary, while California has made significant financial investments to address homelessness, the rising numbers and questions about the effectiveness of these programs indicate that more needs to be done to ensure that resources are directed effectively to alleviate this ongoing crisis."

The homeless-industrial complex is alive and well in California. We spend billions to create tiny amounts of housing that the homeless will not use because they can't do drugs there.

 

[TimFitz]

You enjoy your own conspiracy theories

it isn’t a conspiracy theory.

I know exactly what this is and where it is. I have done work on the RFK site.

you were so anxious to parrot it out, that you never bothered to notice that it showed no National Guard (aeven though the Armory is close by0 or DC Police.

All you really have is a video of a skid steer loader filling a dumpster, while a laboror looks on.

But you love the lie so much that you started a thread based on it.

 

[TimFitz]

The homeless-industrial complex is alive and well in California. We spend billions to create tiny amounts of housing that the homeless will not use because they can't do drugs there.

There is no such thing. The bullshit you make up is idiotic.

 

[TimFitz]

We are not a democracy. Sucks to live in a country where certain people care more for imposing their tranny clinic books on foreign nations than dealing with encampments of drug addicts and the mentally ill.

We are a republic consisting of fifty democracies. Not a monarchy or dictatorship among them.

Saying we are not a democracy is what you hide behind to justify your support for ending the United States and replacing it with a facist dictatorship.

 

[Hollie]

it isn’t a conspiracy theory.

I know exactly what this is and where it is. I have done work on the RFK site.

you were so anxious to parrot it out, that you never bothered to notice that it showed no National Guard (aeven though the Armory is close by0 or DC Police.

All you really have is a video of a skid steer loader filling a dumpster, while a labor or looks on.

But you love the lie so much that you started a thread based on it.

you know nothing, You have nothing but conspiracy theories you peddle. I have also done work on the RFK site. Poor tampon timmy. he cant lie fast eniugh.

 

[leftwinger]

Even if they weren't junkies when made homeless, a few nights sleeping behind a warehouse in cold SF will turn you into one.

Not sure you can save many of the hard core long term persons with bad health, no teeth, no hope. They can't work etc. The SF model seems to be to let them OD or die off.

But maybe you can setup some way to prevent Mom with kids laid off at IBM and kicked out of a rental with no relatives? Pay her rent is cheaper?

Single able bodied males or hoes much more difficult. Many would abuse the system to avoid going to work?

 

[Travis Bickle]

"Someday, a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets".

 

[BackAgain]

They can go anywhere they like. It's a free country.

You just can't set up a tent on public land and squat there forever.

Correct. Somewhere along the line our liberal social engineers seem to have assumed that squatters obtain property rights by virtue of squatting long enough.

I don’t believe it’s true in broad strokes, and clearly not true with public lands and spaces.

I do get why liberals are concerned about simply “warehousing” the mentally ill and the tragically drug addicted. It should seem obvious to liberals and conservatives alike that this isn’t a solution at all. Instead, such facilities and hospitals need to be staffed with actual professionals and beds and the requisite resources.

So, that’s a pretty big objective and it needs serious and urgent legislative attention. And it will not happen magically overnight.

What shouldn’t be allowed to continue happening is the turning of a blind eye to the dangers and the blight to actual society of simply letting the homeless squat and urinate and defecate and aggressively panhandle on the streets of large American cities (which also stains our nation’s Capital District).

 

[leftwinger]

Guy in OAK built a nice little two story pallet home with a rooftop sun deck right in the median of a major industrial street. He soon had a lot of neighbors stretching nearly a mile. City let it go.

 

[TimFitz]

you know nothing, You have nothing but conspiracy theories you peddle.

Your OPis a lie.

I outed you for falling for it.

You parrot right wing lies like this all the time. you’re either too lazy or too invested to fact check anything. And you’re too willing to be fooled thst you never noticed that the video in the X post you parroted shows NO law enforcement of any kind.

So, since you can’t back up the false claim you were stupid enough to parrot, you repeat baseless BS in response.

Yesterday, you were parroting Russian propoganda chapter and verse.

I doubt you ever engage your brain in fact checking or looking into anything. You just parrot right wing trash.

 

[marvin martian]

you support the (D) party, not me.

LOL, sure.

 

[leftwinger]

This one in higher end STL Tower Grove area was there three years.

 

[leftwinger]

This is how bad it gets in CA.

 

[Rawley]

tell us about the California solution.

"
California has invested approximately $24 billion over the past five years to address homelessness, but the effectiveness of this spending has been questioned amid rising homeless numbers.

Overview of Spending​

California has allocated a staggering $24 billion to combat homelessness from 2018 to 2023. Despite this significant investment, the state has seen an increase in its homeless population, which was estimated at 181,000 in 2023, up from 172,000 in the previous fiscal year. This translates to nearly $42,000 spent per homeless individual in the 2021-22 fiscal year alone.
CBS News+1

Key Programs and Financial Assistance​

The state offers various programs aimed at providing financial assistance and essential services to help homeless individuals transition into stable housing. Some of the notable programs include:

• General Relief (GR): A county-funded program providing cash assistance to indigent adults who are ineligible for federal or state programs. For example, eligible individuals in Los Angeles County can receive up to $221 per month.
  
  1
• Supplemental Security Income (SSI): A federal program that provides cash assistance to elderly, blind, or disabled individuals with low income. In California, the maximum SSI payment is approximately $1,040.21 per month.
  
  1
• CalWORKs Homeless Assistance (HA) Program: This program offers temporary shelter assistance for up to 16 days, with payments of up to $85 per day for a family of four, along with permanent housing assistance.
  
  1
• Project Roomkey: Initiated during the COVID-19 pandemic, this program provides temporary, non-congregate shelter to high-risk individuals experiencing homelessness.
  
  1
• 
  
  
  1 Source

Effectiveness and Accountability​

Despite the substantial financial commitment, a state audit revealed that California has not consistently tracked the outcomes of its homelessness programs. The audit highlighted that only two out of five major programs analyzed were deemed "likely cost-effective." This raises concerns about the accountability and effectiveness of the funds allocated to combat homelessness.
CBS News+1
In summary, while California has made significant financial investments to address homelessness, the rising numbers and questions about the effectiveness of these programs indicate that more needs to be done to ensure that resources are directed effectively to alleviate this ongoing crisis."

My city, Los Angeles, as literally lost track of $2.4 BILLION allegedly spent on the homeless. Let that sink in - $2.4 BILLION

 

[pknopp]

Nope. Plenty of programs to help veterans find a home.

And yet many are homeless.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

And yet many are homeless.

The vast majority of homeless choose to be.

 

[pknopp]

The vast majority of homeless choose to be.

They didn't choose to get their "homes" bulldozed.