CyberBullying

[Annie]

For the past 3 years we've been dealing with the fallout of this sort of thing over the summer; it does not lead to a good beginning of the year.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...2&e=4&u=/ap/20050112/ap_on_hi_te/cyberbullies

. . ."Aftab, whose organization is headquartered in Irvington, said examples of cyberbullying include "a Web site where children can vote for the ugliest, most unpopular or fattest girl in the school. It can involve sending private or very personal information or images to others or posting them online for the public to see. It can be annoying but otherwise harmless — or it can be dangerous, such as when it involves stalking and pornography."


Spano said a key issue in dealing with such problems is how to involve law enforcement without violating free speech rights, especially since much of the harassment is generated at home rather than at school.


"Kids, parents and schools need to know when to ignore it — just as schoolyard bullies are sometimes best ignored — and when to report it to law enforcement," he said. . .

 

[Joz]

Since when is bullying, public or private, acceptable? It's easy to ignore such behavior, unless you're the target. I find this disgusting.

 

[Annie]

Since when is bullying, public or private, acceptable? It's easy to ignore such behavior, unless you're the target. I find this disgusting.

Hey Joz, long time no see. Bullying in the sense of kids not talking much to one kid, well there is little you can do, as a parent or teacher, then to help them recognize the friends they do have and perhaps if warranted, offer some socialization tips.

On the other hand, posting hateful gossip aimed at one student, then forwarding to the whole class, that is something else again.

 

[Joz]

Hey Joz, long time no see. Bullying in the sense of kids not talking much to one kid, well there is little you can do, as a parent or teacher, then to help them recognize the friends they do have and perhaps if warranted, offer some socialization tips.

I know there is always that one kid that isn't popular, the nerd, that smells, isn't 'cool'. I fit into that catagory when I became a teen.

On the other hand, posting hateful gossip aimed at one student, then forwarding to the whole class, that is something else again.

This is what I was referring top. I should have know it would come to this. I feel sorry for the kids, this targets. There is just no escape.

 

[Merlin1047]

Hey Joz, long time no see. Bullying in the sense of kids not talking much to one kid, well there is little you can do, as a parent or teacher, then to help them recognize the friends they do have and perhaps if warranted, offer some socialization tips.

On the other hand, posting hateful gossip aimed at one student, then forwarding to the whole class, that is something else again.

Bah humbug. It's kids - they do stupid shit like this and have been doing so forever.

All this amounts to is electronic note-passing. Yes, it's distasteful, immature, stupid, obnoxious, moronic, vindictive and vicious. But then I've just described the average teenie-bopper.

 

[Joz]

Bah humbug. It's kids - they do stupid shit like this and have been doing so forever.

All this amounts to is electronic note-passing. Yes, it's distasteful, immature, stupid, obnoxious, moronic, vindictive and vicious. But then I've just described the average teenie-bopper.

I know, kids will be kids, and kids can be cruel. But with the technology that's available to kids today, I would not like a compromising picture of my daughter circulating the school, real or created.

 

[Hobbit]

I just recommend what I did to deal with bullies in high school. I'd go through normal channels, which usually didn't work, and if it didn't, I'd beat the crap out of the guy the next time he touched me. Schools don't do anything to stop it, and the only thing the bullies will understand is brute force. Most of them are wimps, anyway. Oh, and if I was a dad and a nude picture of my daughter (or son) showed up on the internet and I knew who did it, I'd beat the crap out of his/her dad.

 

[hylandrdet]

For the past 3 years we've been dealing with the fallout of this sort of thing over the summer; it does not lead to a good beginning of the year.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...2&e=4&u=/ap/20050112/ap_on_hi_te/cyberbullies

. . ."Aftab, whose organization is headquartered in Irvington, said examples of cyberbullying include "a Web site where children can vote for the ugliest, most unpopular or fattest girl in the school. It can involve sending private or very personal information or images to others or posting them online for the public to see. It can be annoying but otherwise harmless — or it can be dangerous, such as when it involves stalking and pornography."


Spano said a key issue in dealing with such problems is how to involve law enforcement without violating free speech rights, especially since much of the harassment is generated at home rather than at school.


"Kids, parents and schools need to know when to ignore it — just as schoolyard bullies are sometimes best ignored — and when to report it to law enforcement," he said. . .

Read your latest criticism of my postings. Isn't that cyberbulling?

 

[Hobbit]

Read your latest criticism of my postings. Isn't that cyberbulling?

I'm trying to think of a way you could be more rude and insulting, but...it's just not coming. Seriously, if you actually believe that, you need help.

 

[freeandfun1]

Actually, that was a very typical liberal comment. "If you don't agree with me, you are just a mean ole bully".

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - cyberbullies are sick puppies...

A Mirror of Culture, Cyberbullies Need Help Too
May 22, 2014 ~ Last Friday’s blog post gave an overview of cyberbullying without lifting the veil off the perpetrators’ faces – who they are and what drives them to be mean to others. The answers delve into a problem that goes beyond cyberspace to reflect a social culture that sometimes fails to see bullying for what it is.

In cyberspace, bullies often use technology to mask their identities, sometimes using the same anonymous tools their victims use to protect themselves. Some of them “are people who wouldn’t normally be bullies in the conventional sense,” says Scott Freeman, Co-founder of the Cybersmile Foundation. Some, he adds, “tend to be much shyer than a conventional bully and much less likely to be involved in bullying at school in a physical way.”

But kids in general have a strong need to build social connections and belong to groups. And they often “try out all kinds of behaviors or join in to someone who is doing nasty, mean behaviors because there’s protection from others when they are part of a group,” says psychologist and bullying prevention expert Joel Haber. Anybody can be a cyberbully. But young people, says Haber, “test out being mean, being hurtful, gossip, even at times being malicious” as they develop their social connections. And in cyberspace, it’s very easy to use those skills because there is no direct feedback.

But Haber cautions that the effect of cyberbullying has been overblown. He says the kids who are most at risk “are kids who are bullied in school directly and come home and have ongoing bullying happen through their computer or technology, because those kids then have no escape.” Cyberbullying happens because “we have opened new settings, new social settings” on the Internet, says Jorge Srabstein, MD, Medical Director of the Clinic for Health Problems Related to Bullying at Children’s National Medical Center.

Typically, bullying happens across social settings and is prevalent not just with children and adolescents, but with adults and the elderly as well. It happens on the Internet, at school, in dating relationships, in the workplace. But it is most frequent among siblings – something that for many years was construed as “sibling rivalry” and looked upon as ” normal” behavior between brothers and sisters, said Srabstein. “It’s not normal in the sense that it can hurt,” he said. “And brothers and sisters with all the love in the world can hurt each other.”

What drives a bully?

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Behavior, Not Technology Drives Cyberbullying – Q&A with Cybersmile’s Scott Freeman
May 15, 2014 ~ That I can still remember the face of the school bully I finally had to confront is a luxury most cyberbullying victims don’t have. Some of them are driven to despair as their tormentors exploit technology to hide their identities – a behavior that has led makers of popular anonymous apps like Yik Yak to block student access at middle and high schools across the U.S.

But technology might be more a facilitator than a culprit. The Cybersmile Foundation‘s co-founder, Scott Freeman, whose non-profit group supports cyberbullying victims, sheds more light on cyberbullying in a chat with TECHtonics.

Q. How big of a problem is cyberbullying?

Freeman: Cyberbullying is global. Recent statistics show – across the board, across the planet. Between a quarter and a third of teenagers are being affected regularly. It tends to be 11-16 [years olds] … but it does affect younger and older people as well.

Q. Is cyberbullying race, culture or gender-specific?

Freeman: No. The studies we’ve done and studies other people have done have suggested that apart from a link to teenage girls, there seems to be no particular class or creed that are affected any more than anybody else … Teenage girls are the primary victims.

Q. Why teenage girls, specifically?

Freeman. Teenage girls tend to use social media slightly differently. They tend to spend longer time on it. Our studies have shown that teenage girls spend more time on social media. Therefore it would suggest that the longer time spent there, the more likely that they see it to occur.

Q. How does a person become a cyberbullying target?

Freeman: In a classic case of cyberbullying, they would start being made to feel threatened or upset in one way or the other. Someone’s doing it intentionally. So depending on the platform, it would be direct messages sent or, you know, Facebook posts, or whatever platform they are on. And the person would find that they were getting relentless negativity projected towards them, which is always completely unjust and undeserved … And then, the problem with cyberbullying is because it is so public and the reach is immediately so big that more people get to participate as the problem grows.

Q. So is the cyberbully a stranger or an acquaintance of the victim?

Freeman: They normally have a suspicion at the beginning who it is, who is doing it. And people use anonymity to do this. This is in the most classic sense … It normally starts with possibly a disagreement or an argument that could happen at school or could happen on a forum that they frequent, where they actually have a previous contact with the person. And what happens – once it turns into a case of cyberbullying or harassment, more people who see, who are exposed to the abuse actually get involved by publishing posts themselves and that’s when we see the problem completely escalate.

Q. So is the cyberbully spurred by a perceived weakness in the victim?

Freeman: When people show any weakness, unfortunately their perpetrators don’t see the same empathy as conventional bullying, where you might see the child in the corner saying ‘please don’t hurt me’, crying. And then the hardiest of bullies would have empathy, whereas with the online bullying you can’t see that, so you could potentially have a child on the brink of suicide. And the perpetrators have absolutely no idea. So they continue to do this. So I don’t think the weakness comes into it. But certainly retaliation encourages more cyberbullying.

Q. Is cyberbullying particular to some websites more than others?

 

[Politico]

Hey Joz, long time no see. Bullying in the sense of kids not talking much to one kid, well there is little you can do, as a parent or teacher, then to help them recognize the friends they do have and perhaps if warranted, offer some socialization tips.

I know there is always that one kid that isn't popular, the nerd, that smells, isn't 'cool'. I fit into that catagory when I became a teen.

On the other hand, posting hateful gossip aimed at one student, then forwarding to the whole class, that is something else again.

This is what I was referring top. I should have know it would come to this. I feel sorry for the kids, this targets. There is just no escape.

I guess you should have taken a bath.

 

[Freewill]

Bah humbug. It's kids - they do stupid shit like this and have been doing so forever.

All this amounts to is electronic note-passing. Yes, it's distasteful, immature, stupid, obnoxious, moronic, vindictive and vicious. But then I've just described the average teenie-bopper.

I know, kids will be kids, and kids can be cruel. But with the technology that's available to kids today, I would not like a compromising picture of my daughter circulating the school, real or created.

How would someone get a compromising picture? I am thinking if there are compromising pictures out there the ship has already sailed. A created one, of a minor, would be against the law I would think, even real ones that are posted would also be against the law.

In my opinion is if the bullying involves any threat of violence that needs to be investigated. If compromising pictures, real or created, are posted of minors that too needs investigated. But can you imagine the amount of data to investigate? It would come down to someone complaining to the police.

 

[Freewill]

Hey Joz, long time no see. Bullying in the sense of kids not talking much to one kid, well there is little you can do, as a parent or teacher, then to help them recognize the friends they do have and perhaps if warranted, offer some socialization tips.

I know there is always that one kid that isn't popular, the nerd, that smells, isn't 'cool'. I fit into that catagory when I became a teen.

On the other hand, posting hateful gossip aimed at one student, then forwarding to the whole class, that is something else again.

This is what I was referring top. I should have know it would come to this. I feel sorry for the kids, this targets. There is just no escape.

I guess you should have taken a bath.

I think you would find, and this isn't an insult, that their parents smell pretty much the same way.

 

[USNavyVet]

People are so thin skinned today. The definition of bullying has expanded so much that kids can't be kids. Hobbit is correct though. Unfortunately the only way to really deal with a bully is to bloody their noses.

 

[Politico]

Seriously. There have been all kinds of parenting trends throughout the years. But this is going to produce a generation of pussified and unprepared adults.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Even nearly a decade after this thread was created, the premise still rings true. In 2005, I was in high school. With the advent of cell phones, bullying became more rampant there. Nobody had to throw a punch.

But in my world, I fight back. I didn't sit there and take it.

 

[waltky]

Dutch cyberbully to be extradited to Canada...

Dutch court to extradite cyberbully to Canada
Thu, Apr 06, 2017 - The Dutch Supreme Court on Tuesday approved the extradition to Canada of a convicted cyberbully who faces charges in the case of a Canadian teen who killed herself after being bullied online.

It was not immediately clear when the suspect, identified by Dutch authorities as Aydin C, would be sent to Canada following the court’s decision to reject his appeal against a lower court’s approval of his extradition. His extradition must be approved by the Dutch minister of security and justice. The 38-year-old was convicted last month by a Dutch court and sentenced to nearly 11 years in prison for cyberbullying dozens of young girls and gay men. An appeal in that case could take months to complete.

In Canada, he faces a separate trial in the cyberbullying of Amanda Todd, a 15-year-old girl whose suicide drew global attention to online abuse. C faces charges including extortion, possession of child pornography and attempting to lure a child online linked to Todd’s case. Todd brought cyberbullying to mainstream attention by posting a video on YouTube in 2012 in which she told her story in a series of handwritten signs, describing how she was lured by a stranger to expose her breasts on a webcam.

The picture ended up on a Facebook page made by the stranger and she was repeatedly bullied, despite changing schools. She took her own life weeks after posting the video. Amanda’s mother, Carol Todd, said in a tweet that she received the “wake up news” that the extradition “is a YES to Canada!!!” “Someone victimizes your child, you want them put away forever,” she said. She said the court ruling was a great gift on her birthday. She said the case could be heard in British Columbia late this year or early next year. C’s lawyer did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

At his Dutch trial, judges gave him the maximum possible sentence of 10 years and eight months, “because of the devastating consequences his behavior has on the young lives of the girls” and out of fear that he could commit new offenses if released, the court said in a statement. He pretended to be a boy or girl and persuaded his victims to perform sexual acts in front of a webcam, then posted the images online or blackmailed them by threatening to do so. He was accused of abusing 34 girls and five gay men, behavior the court called “astonishing.” In some cases, the abuse lasted years.

Dutch court to extradite cyberbully to Canada - Taipei Times