Could you say the Nazi goal was colonizing the Soviet Union?

[Otis Mayfield]

So Britain colonized India, America, Kenya, S Africa, Ireland, etc

France colonized Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, etc

Japan colonized Korea and China

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

 

[Moonglow]

Well yeah...

 

[progressive hunter]

So Britain colonized India, America, Kenya, S Africa, Ireland, etc

France colonized Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, etc

Japan colonized Korea and China

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

you may want to buy a dictionary and look up the definition of colonize,,,

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

So Britain colonized India, America, Kenya, S Africa, Ireland, etc

France colonized Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, etc

Japan colonized Korea and China

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

Colonized territories tend to be less developed, poorer nations, sometimes savage territories.

Though Russia was inferior on a technological level there is no indication that Hitler wanted to 'colonize the Soviet Union.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Colonized territories tend to be less developed, poorer nations, sometimes savage territories.

Though Russia was inferior on a technological level there is no indication that Hitler wanted to 'colonize the Soviet Union.

Generalplan Ost - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated GPO, was the Nazi German government's plan for the genocide[1] and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, and colonization of Central and Eastern Europe by Germans. It was to be undertaken in territories occupied by Germany during World War II. The plan was attempted during the war, resulting indirectly and directly in the deaths of millions by shootings, starvation, disease, extermination through labor, and genocide. But its full implementation was not considered practicable during the major military operations, and was prevented by Germany's defeat.[2][3][4]

 

[whitehall]

Colonize with tanks?

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Colonize with tanks?

Armies always colonize countries.

 

[MisterBeale]

So the Russian Armies colonized Eastern Europe?

 

[Otis Mayfield]

So the Russian Armies colonized Eastern Europe?

I always thought the Soviets wanted a buffer zone between them and Europe, but maybe part of it was economic.

 

[justinacolmena]

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

You're talking about the German Jews who were driven out of the country by the Holocaust.
Yes, some of them did colonize the soviet union with the same "shtetl system" (a.k.a. city hall) with a bloody circumcision district downtown which is what pissed the Germans off so bad they gassed so many of them to death.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

You're talking about the German Jews who were driven out of the country by the Holocaust.
Yes, some of them did colonize the soviet union with the same "shtetl system" (a.k.a. city hall) with a bloody circumcision district downtown which is what pissed the Germans off so bad they gassed so many of them to death.

No, I'm not talking about Jews at all.

lol

 

[whitehall]

Stalin and Hitler were two of a kind. When they signed the non-aggression treaty it was just a matter of time before they double crossed each other. Stalin had a vast empire to defend with horse drawn junk and Hitler had V-2 rockets. Which country would be invaded first? The problem for the Germans is that Hitler was a maniac former corporal in the German WW1 army and had no idea of what the Soviet winter would do to his troops.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Generalplan Ost - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Generalplan Ost (German pronunciation: [ɡenəˈʁaːlˌplaːn ˈɔst]; English: Master Plan for the East), abbreviated GPO, was the Nazi German government's plan for the genocide[1] and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, and colonization of Central and Eastern Europe by Germans. It was to be undertaken in territories occupied by Germany during World War II. The plan was attempted during the war, resulting indirectly and directly in the deaths of millions by shootings, starvation, disease, extermination through labor, and genocide. But its full implementation was not considered practicable during the major military operations, and was prevented by Germany's defeat.[2][3][4]

Cool, didn't know that.

But why did you pose the question?

 

[DudleySmith]

He needed to destroy Stalin before Stalin destroyed him first, is all. He probably would have set up German rule over Poland and the massive grain belts around the Ukraine and of course would have wanted the oil fields way out east which could be served easily by railroad along with the giant grain belt in southwestern Soviet Union. If he had stayed with the original plan in the southern drive instead of getting greedy and being sidetracked by Stalingrad even Churchhill's timely aid in the north that saved Moscow wouldn't have helped save Stalin.

People don't seem to really grasp how much of the Soviet's military was destroyed by the Germans Barbarossa and how long a front they had to defend; without the massive 17-25 mile deep minefields they would have been toast a lot sooner. DEspite the claoms, they had already retreated as far as they could given their rail infrastructure and remaining industrial capacity which all ran along a north-south axis just behind those lines of minefields and anti-tank bunkers.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

He needed to destroy Stalin before Stalin destroyed him first, is all. He probably would have set up German rule over Poland and the massive grain belts around the Ukraine and of course would have wanted the oil fields way out east which could be served easily by railroad along with the giant grain belt in southwestern Soviet Union. If he had stayed with the original plan in the southern drive instead of getting greedy and being sidetracked by Stalingrad even Churchhill's timely aid in the north that saved Moscow wouldn't have helped save Stalin.

People don't seem to really grasp how much of the Soviet's military was destroyed by the Germans Barbarossa and how long a front they had to defend; without the massive 17-25 mile deep minefields they would have been toast a lot sooner. DEspite the claoms, they had already retreated as far as they could given their rail infrastructure and remaining industrial capacity which all ran along a north-south axis just behind those lines of minefields and anti-tank bunkers.

Yeah, it was somewhere around Stalingrad that Stalin issued the order that there would be no more retreating. And Staling had a bunch of generals shot.

And it worked, the Soviets stopped the Germans at Stalingrad.

 

[DudleySmith]

Yeah, it was somewhere around Stalingrad that Stalin issued the order that there would be no more retreating. And Staling had a bunch of generals shot.

And it worked, the Soviets stopped the Germans at Stalingrad.

Even Patton wasn't arrogant enough to launch offensives without making sure he had at least local air superiority and of course sufficient armor, which was the glaring mistakes Hitler made at Stalingrad. That false sense of invulnerability has destroyed a lot of wannabee empire builders, especially among 'Master Race' types like German Nazis and Japanese 'Samurai' cultists.

 

[harmonica]

So Britain colonized India, America, Kenya, S Africa, Ireland, etc

France colonized Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, etc

Japan colonized Korea and China

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

you forget about all the executions and war--a lot more than the other countries did
o, and Russia was a legitimate country, where as many of those you mentioned were not

 

[fncceo]

So Britain colonized India, America, Kenya, S Africa, Ireland, etc

France colonized Angola, Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, etc

Japan colonized Korea and China

So Germany wanted to colonize something big so they wouldn't have to depend on imports so much. The only choice for them was the Soviet Union.

Is that fair to say?

In fact, Germany had many overseas colonies including Africa, Asia and the Pacific Islands.

She was forced to give up her colonies as a result of being an aggressor nation in World War I.