Could Trump Actually Deport 11 Million People?

[Vandalshandle]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes..... Besides, I was a republican back then.

 

[daws101]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

 

[Vandalshandle]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

 

[kaz]

Exactly, why should government be involved in marriage. .....

To make the contract valid.

Begging the question, it's not a contract, it's a government program. ...

No, it's a contract.

It's nothing like any other contract...

Yes it is.

OK, name one. What other contract between citizens has all terms dictated by government

 

[kaz]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

In fairness, you are a douchebag

 

[Vandalshandle]

This is a comprehensive list of Trump's various conspiracy theories, including Cruz's father being suspiciously close to Lee Harvey Oswald, Hillary killing Vince Foster,Obama's fake birth certificate etc., etc., etc. Trump makes the conspiracy nuts on this board look sane in comparison!

A Guide To The Many Conspiracy Theories Donald Trump Has Embraced

 

[ChrisL]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

You are what you eat! Your replies to every single thread topic just prove my point. You are a partisan hack. You follow your party lines and never deviate to think for yourself about things. Pathetic douchebag is the best way to describe your type.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

In fairness, you are a douchebag

Are you and Chris classmates in the same junior high?

 

[kaz]

Wow! Thanks for showing the true you. Now, you've been outed.

how am I outed ?
nothing I've said is false.

Outed as a rotten POS who wants to use illegals for cheap labor at the cost of American low skilled workers and taxpayers.

You are a traitor.

Yes, the reason that low skill Americans don't do those jobs is because the wages are artificially low due to the importation of illegals to do them

false! the wages are low because the employers want as large a profit as possible .

Look, you have obviously been backed into a corner, and all you have left is to scream and pout. It's not working. Nobody is buying it. Employers hire illegals because they can pay them less and they don't have to follow our laws about safety and working conditions.

I have him on ignore for calling me a child molester so I didn't see his response. But don't you like how liberals argue to maintain illegal immigration while blaming employers who hire them for the problem?

 

[ChrisL]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes..... Besides, I was a republican back then.

Another one who cannot bolster his points with valid arguments. Sorry, the facts of the matter are that plenty of Americans are in fact willing to do these jobs and they do every day.

 

[ChrisL]

how am I outed ?
nothing I've said is false.

Outed as a rotten POS who wants to use illegals for cheap labor at the cost of American low skilled workers and taxpayers.

You are a traitor.

Yes, the reason that low skill Americans don't do those jobs is because the wages are artificially low due to the importation of illegals to do them

false! the wages are low because the employers want as large a profit as possible .

Look, you have obviously been backed into a corner, and all you have left is to scream and pout. It's not working. Nobody is buying it. Employers hire illegals because they can pay them less and they don't have to follow our laws about safety and working conditions.

I have him on ignore for calling me a child molester so I didn't see his response. But don't you like how liberals argue to maintain illegal immigration while blaming employers who hire them for the problem?

They don't have any idea what they are arguing for. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

In fairness, you are a douchebag

Are you and Chris classmates in the same junior high?

Unlike you, we have moved on from preschool.

 

[Contumacious]

false! I'm not inclined to do it as have nothing to prove.
you obviously think you do.

Prove? I asked you why you advocate for illegal immigration. Lol. Clown.

asked and answered.

Now here is where you start telling me that you did in fact answer my questions, which you obviously have not.

I'll give you another opportunity.

Why do you support illegal immigration? Which parts of my posts (which I outlined and numbered for you) do you disagree with and why do you disagree with them?

This is a discussion and a debate (or maybe not with you involved). Part of debate is explaining your positions and how you came to them.

asked and answered.

Which post did you answer in because I just perused them all, and there were no answers. Here are the questions I would like for you to answer, and these are fairly simple and straightforward questions that anyone with a leg to stand on in an argument could easily answer, and in fact bolster their argument.

1. Do you support illegal immigration?
2. If so, why do you support it?
3. Which of my points do you disagree with?
a) Employers hire illegal immigrants because of the fact that they are undocumented, and they don't have to pay them minimum wage or a living wage, they can also get away with not paying workmen's comp, unemployment taxes, etc.
b) These employers should be punished harshly and levied heavy fines for employing illegals.
c) American workers (according to published statistics, as well as historical statistics), do in fact do these types of jobs. One thing that can easily prove this is that they could not get away with employing ALL illegals, so they must employ some American legal workers as well or they would be caught.
d) Illegal workers are not provided with health insurance. We, the taxpayers, end up picking up the slack when they get sick or have accidents that need medical treatment.
e) Illegal labor is like slave labor.

The Historical Facts show that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration" - That the ONLY ones who subscribe to that legal fiction are the skinheads, neonazis, racist motherfuckers the Know Nothings.

Economists have shown that immigration is NOT detrimental to our economy

Economists have shown thet the welfare state IS detrimental to our rights and the economy.

 

[ChrisL]

This is a comprehensive list of Trump's various conspiracy theories, including Cruz's father being suspiciously close to Lee Harvey Oswald, Hillary killing Vince Foster,Obama's fake birth certificate etc., etc., etc. Trump makes the conspiracy nuts on this board look sane in comparison!

A Guide To The Many Conspiracy Theories Donald Trump Has Embraced

So . . . maybe you can answer the questions. I challenge you to answer the questions I asked that other idiot.

 

[kaz]

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes.....

I can tell by your reaction that you were truly hurt by her scathing assault on you

Chris's idea of an intelligent insult is to call me a douchebag. That has a nostalgic ring to it, since nobody has called me that since the 9th grade.

In fairness, you are a douchebag

Are you and Chris classmates in the same junior high?

You work so hard at your douchery, why deny it now?

 

[kaz]

I used to own a swimming pool service company in Las Vegas. My insurer demanded that I maintain proof that all my drivers had valid driver's licenses, which meant that illegals did not even bother to respond to my want ads. The jobs involved hauling about 50 pounds of equipment back and forth from pools and the trucks, which were not air conditioned, because if they were, they would never turn off the engine while they cleaned pools in 110 degree temperature. I only needed three drivers, but in a two year period, I never had more than 2 at one time. In that time, all of them were white, except one, who was African-american. I never even took the ad out of the paper. Nobody wanted to do the job, in spite of the fact that it was unskilled labor with pay $6 an hour over minimum wage. Almost all of the drivers I hired turned out to be drunks, thieves, and especially druggies, because anyone who could pass a drug test got jobs in air conditioned casinos. One was found face up in the desert one Sunday morning next to his meth lab.

A friend of my owned a landscaping business, and he drove the truck himself, so he did not have to worry about driver's licenses. All of his workers were latino, probably illegal aliens, and were damned happy to work all day in the Las vegas Heat for minimum wage paid in cash, and no benefits. He had no turnover problems.

Thank you. This bolsters my points. Why did you not turn that guy in? You are an accomplice.

I leave that to you vigilantes..... Besides, I was a republican back then.

Another one who cannot bolster his points with valid arguments. Sorry, the facts of the matter are that plenty of Americans are in fact willing to do these jobs and they do every day.

Exactly, they just won't do it for 3 or 4 dollars an hour like illegal Mexicans will

 

[ChrisL]

Prove? I asked you why you advocate for illegal immigration. Lol. Clown.

asked and answered.

Now here is where you start telling me that you did in fact answer my questions, which you obviously have not.

I'll give you another opportunity.

Why do you support illegal immigration? Which parts of my posts (which I outlined and numbered for you) do you disagree with and why do you disagree with them?

This is a discussion and a debate (or maybe not with you involved). Part of debate is explaining your positions and how you came to them.

asked and answered.

Which post did you answer in because I just perused them all, and there were no answers. Here are the questions I would like for you to answer, and these are fairly simple and straightforward questions that anyone with a leg to stand on in an argument could easily answer, and in fact bolster their argument.

1. Do you support illegal immigration?
2. If so, why do you support it?
3. Which of my points do you disagree with?
a) Employers hire illegal immigrants because of the fact that they are undocumented, and they don't have to pay them minimum wage or a living wage, they can also get away with not paying workmen's comp, unemployment taxes, etc.
b) These employers should be punished harshly and levied heavy fines for employing illegals.
c) American workers (according to published statistics, as well as historical statistics), do in fact do these types of jobs. One thing that can easily prove this is that they could not get away with employing ALL illegals, so they must employ some American legal workers as well or they would be caught.
d) Illegal workers are not provided with health insurance. We, the taxpayers, end up picking up the slack when they get sick or have accidents that need medical treatment.
e) Illegal labor is like slave labor.

The Historical Facts show that there is no such thing as "illegal immigration" - That the ONLY ones who subscribe to that legal fiction are the skinheads, neonazis, racist motherfuckers the Know Nothings.

Economists have shown that immigration is NOT detrimental to our economy

Economists have shown thet the welfare state IS detrimental to our rights and the economy.

In case you haven't noticed, I mostly ignore your posts because you are completely off your rocker. Lol.

Why is it that Illegal Aliens Get Free Food Stamps, Health Insurance and Pay No Taxes?
Written by James Hirby and Fact Checked by The Law Dictionary Staff

Americans who are struggling to survive due to high unemployment and low wages may be asking why illegal aliens receive benefits from state and federal governments. Federal law does prevent illegal aliens from receiving benefits meant for American citizens. The only benefit that illegal aliens are allowed is emergency medical care.


Just because illegal aliens are not legally entitled to these benefits does not mean they do not apply for them. Yes. It is true that illegal aliens have received grants, professional accreditations, loans, WIC, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, at least one third of foreign born citizens in the United States are illegal aliens. Since children born in the United States are considered U.S. Citizens, it becomes complicated when illegal aliens then bear children who are U.S. Citizens.

If the U.S. government sent the parents of these children away, we would be separating families. Now that these families have given birth to U.S. citizens, the families are eligible for benefits such as WIC and food stamps. Benefits such as these are for low income families. Illegal aliens often work in low paying jobs so they now qualify for benefits.

Illegal immigrants enter the country by overstaying their visa. Officers of the law do not make it a habit to stop people and ask to see their papers. What this means is that if a person overstays their visa, they can find ways to work and receive benefits.

Another way illegal aliens enter the U.S. is by using forged documents. If people at port authorities, international airports, and border crossings are not catching forged documents, foreign citizens have just entered the U.S. without question.

Once illegal immigrants arrive, they buy forged documents saying they are U.S. citizens. The only way to stop this is to crack down on those who make and sell forged documents. If employers, state, and federal agencies cannot tell a forged document from a real document, then of course illegal aliens will receive benefits.

Our own failures to improve security, verify immigrant status, and recognize forged documents are what cause illegal aliens to receive benefits.



Law Dictionary: Why is it that Illegal Aliens Get Free Food Stamps, Health Insurance and Pay No Taxes?

 

[ChrisL]

Cut off their incentives for coming here, and the flow will at least slow down.

 

[daws101]

Trump in 2007: 'I'm Excited' for Housing Market Crash
by Alexandra Jaffe

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Donald Trump counseled Trump University students to take advantage of the housing bubble as an investment opportunity and said, just a year before it burst, that he was "excited" for it to end because of the money he'd make.

"People have been talking about the end of the cycle for 12 years, and I'm excited if it is,' he told the Globe and Mail in March of 2007. "I've always made more money in bad markets than in good markets."

Trump in 2007: 'I'm Excited' for Housing Market Crash

 

[Vandalshandle]

In addition to my swimming pool business experiences trying to hire people, I also hire someone every year to trim my citrus trees, and handle some other odd jobs at my home. The first guy was about 50 years old, white, and collecting some sort of disability benefits, which would have been taken from him if he left a paper trail of money. he demanded $50 per hour in cash.

The second guy was white, about 30 years old, and did not show up.

The third was white, about 60 years old, and a thief and a druggie. he never completed the task, because the sheriff caught up up with him and threw him in the slammer.

The last was latino, about 45. I have no idea if he is an illegal, or not. He charges $20 per hour, and never misses a day. If his pick up won't start, his cousin's will. I have referred him to three of my friends.