Could The Trump Landslide Be America Living "they know not what they do,"????

[Hector12]

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My support for Israel is unconditional. The only Palestinians I care about are Christian Palestinians.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2.2 million votes out of 150 million still isn't a landslide.

Stop those tears, girly-man.

So he beat the pants off you......in a landslide victory......you'll live, and maybe you'll learn.

 

[IM2]

There was no landslide.

 

[PoliticalChic]

My support for Israel is unconditional. The only Palestinians I care about are Christian Palestinians.

My query is this how were you brought up with not a care for the tens of millons slaughtered pursuant to your political agenda, communism?

Not a single communist nation isn't blood-drenched.

And yet you volunteered to be one of them.

Not a care?

 

[IM2]

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Nobody has made them heroes but you. Plus, you worship a 34-count felon.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There was no landslide.

More to the point, in your case there was no education.


Landslide.....that's why the party is now paying some $20million for studies to figure out why.


Why the landslide defeat.


I know why.....just ask.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nobody has made them heroes but you. Plus, you worship a 34-count felon.

No American believes those charges were real. If they were, why has no other person in history been so charged?

Only Democrats pretend the charges were real, same with the impeachments.


77 million Americans pronounced the real verdict...."innocent."


In your face, boooooyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hector12]

My query is this how were you brought up with not a care for the tens of millons slaughtered pursuant to your political agenda, communism?

Not a single communist nation isn't blood-drenched.

And yet you volunteered to be one of them.

Not a care?

I am not a Communist, although I have liked Communists. The closest I come to Communism is my preference of Scandinavian Social Democracy to American capitalism.

 

[Hector12]

Stop those tears, girly-man.

So he beat the pants off you......in a landslide victory......you'll live, and maybe you'll learn.

President Trump's approval rating: Here's what latest polls show​

President Donald Trump's average approval rating largely held steady this week, with polling placing him between three and five points underwater.

A Friday, May 23 average of recent polls from the New York Times gives the second-term president a 45% approval rating, with 51% disapproving of his performance. The outlet's approval rating average has held steady between 44%-45% over the last 30 days, but it does show a downward trend for the president since early March.

MSN

 

[Hector12]

Nobody has made them heroes but you. Plus, you worship a 34-count felon.

Trump should not be in the White House. He should be in jail awaiting sentencing for his 34 felony convictions, and trial for his three remaining indictments.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am not a Communist, although I have liked Communists. The closest I come to Communism is my preference of Scandinavian Social Democracy to American capitalism.

You wrote this:
“I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary of 2016.

I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. It later evolved into Democratic Socialists of America.

I regret the fall of the Soviet Union. I think Mikhail Gorbachev was a far better ruler than Vladimir Putin.”


Perhaps you've heard

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

The test implies that a person can identify an unknown subject by observing that subject's habitual characteristics.



There is no difference in outcomes for communists, socialists, democrat socialists, every permutation.
All produce death.
None are successful in any way other than slaughter.



The Democrat Party is the most recent iteration of the Nazis and the Bolsheviks. All three are socialist/communist/Marxist.
One can only wonder at the any with even a modicum of knowledge of history, voting for policies that have proven failure whenever tried.


In September of 1991, the President of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, was asked about the history and future of Communism:

“One of their more dramatic responses came to a question by Los Angeles actor Ben Stein, who asked whether the two leaders believed any country should live under communism.

Yeltsin answered first: "This experiment which was conducted on our soil was a tragedy for our people and it was too bad that it happened on our territory. It would have been better if the experiment had happened in some small country, to make it clear that it was a Utopian idea, although a beautiful idea."

Gorbachev said history has shown that "that model has failed which was brought about in our country. And I believe that this is a lesson not only for our people but for all peoples.”
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/181738/GORBACHEV-YELTSIN-SAY-COMMUNISM-FAILED-USSR.html

 

[PoliticalChic]

Trump should not be in the White House. He should be in jail awaiting sentencing for his 34 felony convictions, and trial for his three remaining indictments.

You wrote this:
“I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary of 2016.

I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. It later evolved into Democratic Socialists of America.

I regret the fall of the Soviet Union. I think Mikhail Gorbachev was a far better ruler than Vladimir Putin.”



Are you so bereft of an education about communism/socialism, that you don't know or don't care about this sort of hallmark:

1. Starting in April 75, the Communist Khmer Rouge defeated Lon Nol in Cambodia. Democrats, starting with the 1974 budget, refused to allocate another penny, and forbade US military action in or over Indochina. Just as the right had warned, the communists began a systematic war on the entire populations of their nation, so savage, it is hard to comprehend. It is estimated that the number of dead numbered between 1.7 to 2.5 million out of a population of around 8 million. Killing Fields - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a. Frequently found in totalitarian death cults, the Khmer Rouge cadres were mostly teenagers, some as young as ten or twelve, produced by cruelty and indoctrination. Consistent with other communist conquests, the Khmer Rouge began the massive and grotesque project of remaking society from scratch. They began by emptying the cities: every single person in Phnom Penh- including the lame, hospital patients on intravenous drips, the sick and the elderly, mothers who had just given birth, the pregnant, and infants, - everyone was forced to march. Khmer Rouge rule of Cambodia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




b. The pedicab did not move to the side of the road so a soldier killed the driver with machine gun fire.A young soldier thrust his rifle through the window of the car, then shot the driver through the heart, and he crumpled in the arms of his wifeIm going to pick up my family, Without warning, a soldier sprayed him with machine gun bullets.The frantic parents protested and sought to reclaim their children on the other side of the communist column. The patrol leader thereupon fired a volley of rifle shots, killing both mother and father.
Barron and Paul, Murder of a Gentle Land, p.26-28.


c. Later, to save bullets, the Khmer Rouge switched to other methods of execution, including clubbing, asphyxiation, and dousing the head with gasoline and setting it on fire. Courtois, et.al., The Black Book of Communism, p. 611




I can name a dozen books you should read to realize how ashamed you should be.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I am not a Communist, although I have liked Communists. The closest I come to Communism is my preference of Scandinavian Social Democracy to American capitalism.

“Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen told students that he had “absolutely no wish to interfere the presidential debate in the US” but nonetheless attempted to set the record straight about his country.



"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.



“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.

The PM’s comments come after US presidential hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton used part of the first Democratic debate to discuss how the United States could emulate Scandinavia.” Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist



Check out the rankings of economic freedom, here: Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom



Capitalism makes countries wealthy…..socialism redistributes wealth, shutting down industry in the process.

“The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.” Dennis Prager





Nordic countries have high levels of social services, but this is paid for by exorbitant tax rates. Denmark has a 63% tax rate, plus a 25% sales tax.

And….a 5.5% decline in GDP in the decade.
Opinion | Something Not Rotten in Denmark (Published 2015)



“The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”

The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge

www.economist.com



https://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/denmark_socialism-1.png

 

[Hector12]

“Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, Danish PM Lars Løkke Rasmussen told students that he had “absolutely no wish to interfere the presidential debate in the US” but nonetheless attempted to set the record straight about his country.



"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy,” Rasmussen said.



“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,” he added.

The PM’s comments come after US presidential hopefuls Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton used part of the first Democratic debate to discuss how the United States could emulate Scandinavia.” Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist



Check out the rankings of economic freedom, here: Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom



Capitalism makes countries wealthy…..socialism redistributes wealth, shutting down industry in the process.

“The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.” Dennis Prager





Nordic countries have high levels of social services, but this is paid for by exorbitant tax rates. Denmark has a 63% tax rate, plus a 25% sales tax.

And….a 5.5% decline in GDP in the decade.
Opinion | Something Not Rotten in Denmark (Published 2015)



“The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”

The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge

www.economist.com



https://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/denmark_socialism-1.png

Scandinavian Social Democracy has a mixed economy, with a well financed public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation.

 

[Hector12]

You wrote this:
“I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary of 2016.

I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. It later evolved into Democratic Socialists of America.

I regret the fall of the Soviet Union. I think Mikhail Gorbachev was a far better ruler than Vladimir Putin.”



Are you so bereft of an education about communism/socialism, that you don't know or don't care about this sort of hallmark:

1. Starting in April 75, the Communist Khmer Rouge defeated Lon Nol in Cambodia. Democrats, starting with the 1974 budget, refused to allocate another penny, and forbade US military action in or over Indochina. Just as the right had warned, the communists began a systematic war on the entire populations of their nation, so savage, it is hard to comprehend. It is estimated that the number of dead numbered between 1.7 to 2.5 million out of a population of around 8 million. Killing Fields - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a. Frequently found in totalitarian death cults, the Khmer Rouge cadres were mostly teenagers, some as young as ten or twelve, produced by cruelty and indoctrination. Consistent with other communist conquests, the Khmer Rouge began the massive and grotesque project of remaking society from scratch. They began by emptying the cities: every single person in Phnom Penh- including the lame, hospital patients on intravenous drips, the sick and the elderly, mothers who had just given birth, the pregnant, and infants, - everyone was forced to march. Khmer Rouge rule of Cambodia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




b. The pedicab did not move to the side of the road so a soldier killed the driver with machine gun fire.A young soldier thrust his rifle through the window of the car, then shot the driver through the heart, and he crumpled in the arms of his wifeIm going to pick up my family, Without warning, a soldier sprayed him with machine gun bullets.The frantic parents protested and sought to reclaim their children on the other side of the communist column. The patrol leader thereupon fired a volley of rifle shots, killing both mother and father.
Barron and Paul, Murder of a Gentle Land, p.26-28.


c. Later, to save bullets, the Khmer Rouge switched to other methods of execution, including clubbing, asphyxiation, and dousing the head with gasoline and setting it on fire. Courtois, et.al., The Black Book of Communism, p. 611




I can name a dozen books you should read to realize how ashamed you should be.

Communism is not the same everywhere, and for all time. I compared Russia under Gorbachev with Russia under Putin.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Scandinavian Social Democracy has a mixed economy, with a well financed public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation.

They are not socialist/communist like you.


I asked how you can disregard all the slaughter every communist/socialist endeavor has caused. No answer?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Communism is not the same everywhere, and for all time. I compared Russia under Gorbachev with Russia under Putin.

I asked how you can ignore/miss the human misery caused by every communist/socialist entity, and simply support them.
Between four and seven million people, mainly Ukrainian peasant farmers, are estimated to have starved to death in the Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.

"The famine was man-made, and a result of a Soviet programme of forced agricultural collectivisation launched by Soviet leader Josef Stalin in 1932. Under the plan, individually owned and operated farms were replaced by large state-run collectives. Ukrainian farmers largely resisted the policy and in response Soviet officials forced some farmers from their lands, seized property, and confiscated produce in punishment for not meeting State production quotas. Soviet authorities also sealed the borders so no one could leave the country and blocked food supplies into Ukraine. Some historians have argued the policies were a deliberate attempt by Stalin to crush a drive for independence. The policy of collectivisation was also accompanied by a wide-ranging purge of the Ukrainian intelligentsia and of the Ukrainian Communist Party.https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2023-0051/#:~:text=The%20famine%20was%20man%2Dmade,organisations%20to%20do%20the%20same.


They slaughtered that many in the Ukraine alone.
Holodomor - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Holodomor

The Great Famine of 1932–1933 in Ukraine (Holodomor), took from 7 million to 10 million innocent lives and became a national tragedy for the Ukrainian people.
‎Soviet famine of 1932–1933 · ‎Causes of the Holodomor · ‎Denial · ‎Category



September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of thecollectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as theHolodomor.He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the NorthernCaucasus, and Siberiademanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"They were thrown into a hole in the ground...the ground was moving..." Many were buried alive.




This is what you support??????

 

[Hector12]

I asked how you can ignore/miss the human misery caused by every communist/socialist entity, and simply support them.
Between four and seven million people, mainly Ukrainian peasant farmers, are estimated to have starved to death in the Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.

"The famine was man-made, and a result of a Soviet programme of forced agricultural collectivisation launched by Soviet leader Josef Stalin in 1932. Under the plan, individually owned and operated farms were replaced by large state-run collectives. Ukrainian farmers largely resisted the policy and in response Soviet officials forced some farmers from their lands, seized property, and confiscated produce in punishment for not meeting State production quotas. Soviet authorities also sealed the borders so no one could leave the country and blocked food supplies into Ukraine. Some historians have argued the policies were a deliberate attempt by Stalin to crush a drive for independence. The policy of collectivisation was also accompanied by a wide-ranging purge of the Ukrainian intelligentsia and of the Ukrainian Communist Party.https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2023-0051/#:~:text=The%20famine%20was%20man%2Dmade,organisations%20to%20do%20the%20same.


They slaughtered that many in the Ukraine alone.
Holodomor - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Holodomor

The Great Famine of 1932–1933 in Ukraine (Holodomor), took from 7 million to 10 million innocent lives and became a national tragedy for the Ukrainian people.
‎Soviet famine of 1932–1933 · ‎Causes of the Holodomor · ‎Denial · ‎Category



September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of thecollectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as theHolodomor.He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the NorthernCaucasus, and Siberiademanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

"They were thrown into a hole in the ground...the ground was moving..." Many were buried alive.




This is what you support??????

i do not ignore it. I do not support it. Claiming that I do is an example of the false dilemma fallacy.

My objection to Communism, even under Gorbachev, whom I admire, is that a dictatorship is an inappropriate government for a command economy. The problem with enlightened despotism was obvious long before the Russian Revolution: enlightenment cannot be institutionalized; despotism can be and usually is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

i do not ignore it. I do not support it. Claiming that I do is an example of the false dilemma fallacy.

My objection to Communism, even under Gorbachev, whom I admire, is that a dictatorship is an inappropriate government for a command economy. The problem with enlightened despotism was obvious long before the Russian Revolution: enlightenment cannot be institutionalized; despotism can be and usually is.

You wrote this:
“I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary of 2016.

I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. It later evolved into Democratic Socialists of America.

I regret the fall of the Soviet Union. I think Mikhail Gorbachev was a far better ruler than Vladimir Putin.”


Of course you support it.

 

[Hector12]

You wrote this:
“I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary of 2016.

I was a member of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee. It later evolved into Democratic Socialists of America.

I regret the fall of the Soviet Union. I think Mikhail Gorbachev was a far better ruler than Vladimir Putin.”


Of course you support it.

Support for democratic socialism does not mean support for Stalin or Pol Pot. If you do not understand that you are beyond the range of rational discussion.