Could It Be Atheists Don't Like God Because It's Hard for Them to Follow Rules?

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DOH!
Atheists Do have to "follow the Rules" of their Local, State, and Federal Governments.

They do not, and should not have to abide by the Bible, Koran, Torah, Bhavagad Gita, or Zambian govt.

You ******* Idiot
And that goes for (the apparently religious) flacaltenn who gave you a 'thanks' for that IDIOTIC OP.


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How does this answer my argument that there are a lot of Christians who have a hard time following the rules, such as; thou shall not kill, steal, and trespass?
I gave you the evidence that you are wrong. There are a lot of Christians who follow the rules. They have God who helps them to and the Ten Commandments (first thing written). It's the liberals and atheists who have trouble following the rules. I'll agree that the liberals are political.
 
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Atheists Do have to "follow the Rules" of their Local, State, and Federal Governments.
We all have to follow the laws, but the atheists are usually liberal and tend to break the laws. They have a harder time following the laws, especially the objective moral laws of God. They broke the first commandment by not having faith in God, but having faith in no God/gods. Their faith in no God/gods leads them to have no objective moral laws. More of them break the law than conservatives. We just saw that with BLM and Antifa protestors who resorted to domestic terriorism.
 
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There's not one Christian who hasn't sinned. You know why they sin? Because they can't follow the rules. Adam and Eve couldn't even follow the rules. Moses had to make up the 10 commandments because nobody was following the rules. And of course, god drowned nearly all of humanity because nobody was following the rules. Check. And mate.
Yes, we are tempted and have sinned. We live a fallen world and are born with sin. However, it's the liberals and atheists who commit the sin of disbelief which gets them hell. They had a chance to be saved and have eternal life by having faith in Jesus and how he saved us, but they chose death, i.e. spiritual death, by the Lake of Fire.

God drowned all of nearly all of humanity because the wicked and evil became so bad that the innocent were in danger. Furthermore, you aren't following the rules in your post either. You aren't following the ten commandments and violating the most important one as well as bearing false witness against your neighbor. You're just cherry picking in order to support your argument.
 
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you haven't even proven there is a god---so your ''hypothesis'' is ridiculous
From you statement, you are one who wants proof of God first. God and Christianity do not work that way. You have to have faith and believe that Jesus saved us by dying on the cross. Furthermore, I tell you about the discovery of the Bible.

By the same token, you haven't proven there is no God nor gods either. You just have faith in no God nor gods.

You have more conservative political views, but when it comes to religion you do not have faith in God. It leads to a violation of the first commandment and the sin of disbelief. Would you be able to focus on the ten commandments and believe and follow Jesus as our Savior? You have a hard time because of not being able to follow God's objective moral values, but having faith in no God nor gods unless you get proof. No evidence is good enough for you. We had mathematical proof in that Fisher's theorem of Mathematical Biology was disproven in 2017, but it's not good enough. Nothing will ever be good enough. It starts with you.
 
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They do not, and should not have to abide by the Bible
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:

 

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They do not, and should not have to abide by the Bible
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:

The usual James Blond IDIOTIC post::

CIRCULAR REASONING
circulus in demonstrando
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Description: A type of reasoning in which the Proposition is Supported by the Premises, which is Supported by the Proposition, creating a Circle in reasoning where NO Useful information is being shared.

This Fallacy is often quite Humorous.

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Example #2:

The Bible is the Word of God because God tells us it is... in the Bible.

Explanation: This is a very serious circular argument on which many people base their entire lives.
This is like getting an e-mail from a Nigerian prince, offering to give you his billion dollar fortune -- but only after you wire him a “good will” offering of $50,000. Of course, you are skeptical until you read the final line in the e-mail that reads “I, prince Nubadola, assure you that this is my message, and it is legitimate. You can trust this e-mail and any others that come from me.” Now you know it is legitimate... because it says so in the e-mail.​

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you haven't even proven there is a god---so your ''hypothesis'' is ridiculous
From you statement, you are one who wants proof of God first. God and Christianity do not work that way. You have to have faith and believe that Jesus saved us by dying on the cross. Furthermore, I tell you about the discovery of the Bible.

By the same token, you haven't proven there is no God nor gods either. You just have faith in no God nor gods.

You have more conservative political views, but when it comes to religion you do not have faith in God. It leads to a violation of the first commandment and the sin of disbelief. Would you be able to focus on the ten commandments and believe and follow Jesus as our Savior? You have a hard time because of not being able to follow God's objective moral values, but having faith in no God nor gods unless you get proof. No evidence is good enough for you. We had mathematical proof in that Fisher's theorem of Mathematical Biology was disproven in 2017, but it's not good enough. Nothing will ever be good enough. It starts with you.
.....totally irrelevant how christianity works.....and all religions are man made = can be anything/etc = fairytales
final: no proof there is a god.....
 

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liberals and atheists who commit the sin of disbelief which gets them hell.
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:
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moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.

the "sin of disbelief" is a 4th century forgery to insure compliance to the religion of the roman empire. embedded as the first forged inclusion in their madeup commandments for that purpose.

just so bond can feel good about their obsessively hating - da liberals. that somehow cross his path because they in most part are not gun loving fanatics.
 
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CIRCULAR REASONING
circulus in demonstrando
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Description: A type of reasoning in which the Proposition is Supported by the Premises, which is Supported by the Proposition, creating a Circle in reasoning where NO Useful information is being shared.
Your reply makes no sense at all. The Bible was discovered and found to be written by different peoples from all walks of life. It took over 1500 years to write and compile. What I said was the Bible started its writing with the Ten Commandments. This is related to the argument that liberals and atheists have difficulty with God because they cannot follow the rules. Using you as an example, you put no God/gods before God. You cannot follow the First Commandment. It is due to your rebellious nature. Because of it you could not focus on the rule and then blurt out a non-sequitur. If it was you in the video, you would not be able to focus on reading your own book nor watching tv when the password was given to you. Instead you couldn't resist the wine and fell asleep on the couch. You could not follow my argument and instead regurgitate out a non-sequitur.

A Christian would likely be able to follow the rules for the most part, but may not agree with leaving the doors unlocked and turning the phone off in a stranger's place where strange things have already gone on like the invisible dog.
 
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.....totally irrelevant how christianity works.....and all religions are man made = can be anything/etc = fairytales
final: no proof there is a god.....
From your argument, then the religion of atheism is man made. Faith is very relevant as it also applies to the religion of atheism. Theism is in the word itself.

atheism (n.)
"the doctrine that there is no God;" "disbelief in any regularity in the universe to which man must conform himself under penalties"


That starts with your faith in no God/gods. You cannot accept there will be "penalties" such as death (which we all must do), proof after death in every eye will see, and your perfect eternal spirit being burned up in the Lake of Fire. Instead, you continue to beg for the proof when there isn't any. For the original Ten Commandments, this could be the closest -- Archaeologists Searching for Ark of the Covenant and Tabernacle Find Biblical Clues at Shiloh Dig.

This is why nothing will be acceptable to you until the matter is settled once and for all on Earth with every eye will see. This will happen likely after your death. Otherwise, you have no evidence nor proof for what you believe. You can't even get past that your own religion is based on fairy tales. Likely, it started in India and spread to the Greeks and Romans. The Greek atheists were breaking the law and could be put to death for it, so certainly they were rebellious scofflaws. They believed in a bunch of made up fairy tales due to nature. Sound familiar? Certainly, not logic and rational thinking :auiqs.jpg:.
 
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I am not an atheist but have many friends who are.

Atheists tend to not like Yahweh because of his genocidal ways and other moral considerations that make Yahweh the immoral prick that Gnostic Christians see.

They also do not favor homophobia and misogyny.

Atheist morality is superior to theist morality.
Your post makes no sense whatsoever. There is no atheist morality unless you subscribe to the belief in karma of the Indians (India). A person's behavior was controlled by this in India. As for western thinking you either lie or know nothing about the Greeks and Romans scholars who preached atheism such as Socrates and others. They would have been put to death. Atheists have no morality, so they may as well be put to death. In fact Socrates was to be punished by death for his teaching atheism. After his trial, he was condemned to die but I think he committed suicide afterward (same difference).
 

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liberals and atheists who commit the sin of disbelief which gets them hell.
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:
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moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.

the "sin of disbelief" is a 4th century forgery to insure compliance to the religion of the roman empire. embedded as the first forged inclusion in their madeup commandments for that purpose.

just so bond can feel good about their obsessively hating - da liberals. that somehow cross his path because they in most part are not gun loving fanatics.
Prove it! Anyone can say, Christianity is a 19th Century fake, and the only true religion is that of shooting marbles. However, you've proven nothing --- you say nothing but repeated rhetoric. I would like to introduce you to Christ; however, you seem to be on some tangent that never reaches a conclusion or is explicit in any conceivable way. To say anything more would be hurtful to you and would not help your situation. You are obviously very confused. You need to repent and seek GOD's intervention in your life. In other words, you need Jesus the Messiah and not a load of humanistic meaningless propaganda.
 
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liberals and atheists who commit the sin of disbelief which gets them hell.
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:
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moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.

the "sin of disbelief" is a 4th century forgery to insure compliance to the religion of the roman empire. embedded as the first forged inclusion in their madeup commandments for that purpose.

just so bond can feel good about their obsessively hating - da liberals. that somehow cross his path because they in most part are not gun loving fanatics.
Prove it! Anyone can say, Christianity is a 19th Century fake, and the only true religion is that of shooting marbles. However, you've proven nothing --- you say nothing but repeated rhetoric. I would like to introduce you to Christ; however, you seem to be on some tangent that never reaches a conclusion or is explicit in any conceivable way. To say anything more would be hurtful to you and would not help your situation. You are obviously very confused. You need to repent and seek GOD's intervention in your life. In other words, you need Jesus the Messiah and not a load of humanistic meaningless propaganda.
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Prove it! Anyone can say, Christianity is a 19th Century fake, and the only true religion is that of shooting marbles. However, you've proven nothing --- you say nothing but repeated rhetoric.
moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.
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no one is claiming 19th century fake ... rather uninterrupted recorded history beginning in the 4th century - by the crucifiers.

your religion and christian bible were written 400 years past the events occurrence for the purpose of establishing the religion of the roman empire - it is a political document filled with forgeries and fallacies purposely appealing to a (your) particular persuasion, the religious itinerant died in vain for their role expressed in that document.

show your etched documents or stop lying, you worship by them a murderer.

the same with your other adherents your purpose has always been to persecute and victimize the innocent. your works are those of the crucifiers.

just who do you believe the itinerant died for.
 

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liberals and atheists who commit the sin of disbelief which gets them hell.
Why is that when it has been handed down from the creator of the universe, Earth, and everything in it himself? The Bible starts with the Ten Commandments being handed down to Moses:
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moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.

the "sin of disbelief" is a 4th century forgery to insure compliance to the religion of the roman empire. embedded as the first forged inclusion in their madeup commandments for that purpose.

just so bond can feel good about their obsessively hating - da liberals. that somehow cross his path because they in most part are not gun loving fanatics.
Prove it! Anyone can say, Christianity is a 19th Century fake, and the only true religion is that of shooting marbles. However, you've proven nothing --- you say nothing but repeated rhetoric. I would like to introduce you to Christ; however, you seem to be on some tangent that never reaches a conclusion or is explicit in any conceivable way. To say anything more would be hurtful to you and would not help your situation. You are obviously very confused. You need to repent and seek GOD's intervention in your life. In other words, you need Jesus the Messiah and not a load of humanistic meaningless propaganda.
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Prove it! Anyone can say, Christianity is a 19th Century fake, and the only true religion is that of shooting marbles. However, you've proven nothing --- you say nothing but repeated rhetoric.
moses lied there were no etched tablets handed to him he was also a murderer who knew the ways of persuasion - one way or another.
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no one is claiming 19th century fake ... rather uninterrupted recorded history beginning in the 4th century - by the crucifiers.

your religion and christian bible were written 400 years past the events occurrence for the purpose of establishing the religion of the roman empire - it is a political document filled with forgeries and fallacies purposely appealing to a (your) particular persuasion, the religious itinerant died in vain for their role expressed in that document.

show your etched documents or stop lying, you worship by them a murderer.

the same with your other adherents your purpose has always been to persecute and victimize the innocent. your works are those of the crucifiers.

just who do you believe the itinerant died for.
Christ was crucified about 33 AD. The last book of the Bible -- Revelations --- was written about than 96 AD. That is hardly 400 later by any stretch of one's imagination. That would be a 63 years later.
 

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The thought has crossed my mind, but didn't know how to say it until watching a liberal woman doing house sitting. She gets paid $200 if she follows what seems like seven simple rules. Could you follow the rules and have $200 in your account the next morning?
What are you talking about? Religious Christians can't follow the rules. That's why they had to invent Jesus.
 

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The thought has crossed my mind, but didn't know how to say it until watching a liberal woman doing house sitting. She gets paid $200 if she follows what seems like seven simple rules. Could you follow the rules and have $200 in your account the next morning?
What are you talking about? Religious Christians can't follow the rules. That's why they had to invent Jesus.
Do you follow all the "rules" without fail? God the Father needed to send Jesus or everyone, everywhere, throughout time, would be lost forever.
 

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The thought has crossed my mind, but didn't know how to say it until watching a liberal woman doing house sitting. She gets paid $200 if she follows what seems like seven simple rules. Could you follow the rules and have $200 in your account the next morning?
What are you talking about? Religious Christians can't follow the rules. That's why they had to invent Jesus.
Do you follow all the "rules" without fail? God the Father needed to send Jesus or everyone, everywhere, throughout time, would be lost forever.
Some 5 billion people don't believe Jesus is the way to G-d. You actually believe G-d is condemning them to hell?
 

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The thought has crossed my mind, but didn't know how to say it until watching a liberal woman doing house sitting. She gets paid $200 if she follows what seems like seven simple rules. Could you follow the rules and have $200 in your account the next morning?
What are you talking about? Religious Christians can't follow the rules. That's why they had to invent Jesus.
Do you follow all the "rules" without fail? God the Father needed to send Jesus or everyone, everywhere, throughout time, would be lost forever.
Some 5 billion people don't believe Jesus is the way to G-d. You actually believe G-d is condemning them to hell?
Everyone is condemned to hell already, it is only those open to the Messiah/Christ who shall be saved. It's kind of like the person who jumps off a cliff and thinks his flying, while another realizes his falling to his death and cries for GOD's help. The one crying for GOD's help gets it. The one who thinks his flying is in for a shock at the bottom. GOD allows us to choose... GOD wants only those to live eternally with HIM, who wish to do so. The rest are allowed to make the best of it by their own devices. It's only just.
 

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