Could GOP plans spur the inflation the party pledges to end?

The irony is, Trump’s platform — including tax cuts, tariff increases and a crackdown on immigration — would, in the view of many economists and investors, stoke price pressures. As the Federal Reserve prepares to start monetary easing, the potential shift in an array of policies looms as a risk for sustained interest-rate cuts in 2025.


Given the vagueness of the Republican platform I am wondering if anyone has any idea of just what a Trump administration will actually do to combat inflation. Even within that vagueness we find three inflationary proposals. Tariffs, elimination of immigration and mass deportations, and tax cuts. What policy proposals will counter those inflationary drivers?

I am not interested in the whole oil and gas production thing, the drill baby drill bullshit. Under Biden oil production and gas production have exceeded even Trump's best year, prior to the Covid pandemic. That dog ain't going to hunt. Trump could ban the export of crude and natural gas, that would certainly influence prices downwards, but I have seen no proposal of that and considering the influence of the oil and gas industry, not seeing it happening.
Trump won't have trillions in QE help from the Fed this time around, and he won't have the Fed to keep interest rates artificially low again. Even with all that help, and even with all his profligate spending, his "greatest economy ever" (ha ha) was only at 2.3% growth when COVID hit.

He'll have to keep spending and cut taxes more for inflation to return. Which, of course, is possible. He thinks short term only, and he only cares about "his numbers".

 
Trump won't have trillions in QE help from the Fed this time around, and he won't have the Fed to keep interest rates artificially low again. Even with all that help, and even with all his profligate spending, his "greatest economy ever" (ha ha) was only at 2.3% growth when COVID hit.

He'll have to keep spending and cut taxes more for inflation to return. Which, of course, is possible. He thinks short term only, and he only cares about "his numbers".


Trump won't have trillions in QE help from the Fed this time around

Not like Obama and Biden did.
 
I'm admittedly not the world's biggest Larry Summers fan (he and Robert Rubin convinced Clinton to sign the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which directly led to the 2008 Meltdown), he and the interviewer say exactly what I've been saying about what caused the inflation: The supply/demand mess coming out of the COVID shutdowns, and a Fed that was FAR too slow in addressing increasing inflation.

Trumpsters, you'll continue to deny this, if you have any idea whatsoever what they're talking about.

 
They dropped them below 15% and the money rolled in.
You got that documented? I would like to see some numbers, should be easy to find.
Isn't WACC much lower with a 70% rate than with a 21% rate?
Higher taxes subsidize risk. You want companies to take more risk, increase their tax rate.
Right? 70% is a much bigger subsidy than 21%.
Why yes, higher marginal tax rates do subsidize risk higher than lower marginal tax rates. Another way to look at it is that taxes are the "cost" of taking money out of a business. Because you don't pay taxes on money you reinvest in the company. If you lower the cost of taking money out of the business why would anyone believe that would encourage companies to leave more money in the business? Yet that is the entire argument of lowering corporate taxes.
You asked me how it would impact inflation, not whether Republicans support it or whether it was a good idea to give China PNTR.
Right how would tariffs impact inflation? Are you arguing that it would not spur inflation
Should we defend any domestic producers from Chinese imports?
Maybe sectors vital to national security. Semi-conductor manufacturers, rare earth mineral mining. Trump do anything about those two sectors? Nope, he is worried about you being able to get a cheap washing machine, but if we have to depend on China for rare earth minerals and semi-conductors it is no big deal. Biden actually addressed both those sectors since he has been in office
Yes. And? Should we welcome swarms of illegals to benefit homeowners and those with rental properties?.
Well see, that is just it. Those illegals, they benefit us all. Every economic study, and almost every real economist, support the reality, they give more than they take. I see it, on a professional and on a personal level, almost every single day. I live in a rural area, and it is certainly Trump country. But the whole illegal immigration canard, it don't carry much weight here. Immigrants are too vital a component of the local economy. They work in agriculture, food manufacturing, furniture, warehouse, restaurants. They are a vibrant part of the economy, sought after customers. And they start businesses, rather it is food truck, or a field crop producer, and those businesses bring even more to the local economy.,

You know. I kind of just want to stop right there. I mean the topic is inflation, right? Trump has talked about stopping, or taxing, remittances, a huge part of the immigration issue. How do those remittances, money they send back to their home country, impact inflation, first, here, but second, in their home country, and yes, this is a test.

I grew up in a really small town, at the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains. It was a long time ago. It was mostly a mill town, right across the river from the old abandoned mill town they used in Hunger games. Most people worked in the mill. But there was a grocery store, Dad was the manager. A newspaper, a hardware store, a haberdashery, a funeral home, a "dime store", a woman's fashion boutique. Barber shop, beauty parlor, don't confuse the two.

What a bunch of commies. Or fascists. I don't know, I get confused. There was like a community doctor, the mill paid for him. There were several public parks, all with ballfields, softball was the thing. The mill paid for it. And then they went and done it. It had to have been the late 60's. State of the art, "Recreation Center", paid with bonds, mostly funded by ABC revenues. Olympic pool, one and three meter springboards into a diving area--check out that liability insurance premium today. Indoor basketball courts, ping-pong, weights, and of course, pool and pinball. All FREE. Commie bastards. Music auditorium, art rooms, and of course, first class baseball fields, back to back, outfields meeting each other.

In all fields, that little tiny ass town has delivered. But the real point, all those businesses, they were individually owned, small businesses. And the "profits', the wealth those businesses generated, it stayed right there, in that tiny little community. Everyone knew everyone, and the vibe I am getting from Vance, he kind of witnessed that, but he wasn't really a part of it. He visited, for the summer. I can empathize.

I didn't cross into a different state to stay with the grandparents. I merely crossed the county line, a major river, and a few fire districts. I was an indentured servant during my summers out of school. It was like right after school was out, boom, staying at the grandparents. Up at four in the morning. I am feeding the calves their "formula". And you really don't want to know what that looks like. But Mom, she is giving her milk to the tanks in the milk parlor. And mid-morning, a real tanker will show up to cart it away.

It is not even summer yet, but thankfully, the sun is up when all is done. Me and the cousins clean it all up, the grandparents cook, and bake, breakfast. OMG, amazing. But it is much needed fuel. We on the tractors, combine is running, uncle is in the dump truck, it is get the early wheat in, rake and bale the straw, and get it up top, in the barn loft, three stories up. We fill up the silo, cramp up the barn loft, and I get to go back across the damn river. Till right before the

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The irony is, Trump’s platform — including tax cuts, tariff increases and a crackdown on immigration — would, in the view of many economists and investors, stoke price pressures. As the Federal Reserve prepares to start monetary easing, the potential shift in an array of policies looms as a risk for sustained interest-rate cuts in 2025.


Given the vagueness of the Republican platform I am wondering if anyone has any idea of just what a Trump administration will actually do to combat inflation. Even within that vagueness we find three inflationary proposals. Tariffs, elimination of immigration and mass deportations, and tax cuts. What policy proposals will counter those inflationary drivers?

I am not interested in the whole oil and gas production thing, the drill baby drill bullshit. Under Biden oil production and gas production have exceeded even Trump's best year, prior to the Covid pandemic. That dog ain't going to hunt. Trump could ban the export of crude and natural gas, that would certainly influence prices downwards, but I have seen no proposal of that and considering the influence of the oil and gas industry, not seeing it happening.
What was inflation under Trump?
 
You got nothing, got it. Now go sit in the corner and STFU.
Well, let's just go by actual results rather than rank speculation. Under Trump's policies inflation averaged 1.9%. Under Biden/Harris, it's been as high as 9% and an average of 5.7%
 
You got that documented? I would like to see some numbers, should be easy to find.

Why yes, higher marginal tax rates do subsidize risk higher than lower marginal tax rates. Another way to look at it is that taxes are the "cost" of taking money out of a business. Because you don't pay taxes on money you reinvest in the company. If you lower the cost of taking money out of the business why would anyone believe that would encourage companies to leave more money in the business? Yet that is the entire argument of lowering corporate taxes.

Right how would tariffs impact inflation? Are you arguing that it would not spur inflation

Maybe sectors vital to national security. Semi-conductor manufacturers, rare earth mineral mining. Trump do anything about those two sectors? Nope, he is worried about you being able to get a cheap washing machine, but if we have to depend on China for rare earth minerals and semi-conductors it is no big deal. Biden actually addressed both those sectors since he has been in office

Well see, that is just it. Those illegals, they benefit us all. Every economic study, and almost every real economist, support the reality, they give more than they take. I see it, on a professional and on a personal level, almost every single day. I live in a rural area, and it is certainly Trump country. But the whole illegal immigration canard, it don't carry much weight here. Immigrants are too vital a component of the local economy. They work in agriculture, food manufacturing, furniture, warehouse, restaurants. They are a vibrant part of the economy, sought after customers. And they start businesses, rather it is food truck, or a field crop producer, and those businesses bring even more to the local economy.,

You know. I kind of just want to stop right there. I mean the topic is inflation, right? Trump has talked about stopping, or taxing, remittances, a huge part of the immigration issue. How do those remittances, money they send back to their home country, impact inflation, first, here, but second, in their home country, and yes, this is a test.

I grew up in a really small town, at the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains. It was a long time ago. It was mostly a mill town, right across the river from the old abandoned mill town they used in Hunger games. Most people worked in the mill. But there was a grocery store, Dad was the manager. A newspaper, a hardware store, a haberdashery, a funeral home, a "dime store", a woman's fashion boutique. Barber shop, beauty parlor, don't confuse the two.

What a bunch of commies. Or fascists. I don't know, I get confused. There was like a community doctor, the mill paid for him. There were several public parks, all with ballfields, softball was the thing. The mill paid for it. And then they went and done it. It had to have been the late 60's. State of the art, "Recreation Center", paid with bonds, mostly funded by ABC revenues. Olympic pool, one and three meter springboards into a diving area--check out that liability insurance premium today. Indoor basketball courts, ping-pong, weights, and of course, pool and pinball. All FREE. Commie bastards. Music auditorium, art rooms, and of course, first class baseball fields, back to back, outfields meeting each other.

In all fields, that little tiny ass town has delivered. But the real point, all those businesses, they were individually owned, small businesses. And the "profits', the wealth those businesses generated, it stayed right there, in that tiny little community. Everyone knew everyone, and the vibe I am getting from Vance, he kind of witnessed that, but he wasn't really a part of it. He visited, for the summer. I can empathize.

I didn't cross into a different state to stay with the grandparents. I merely crossed the county line, a major river, and a few fire districts. I was an indentured servant during my summers out of school. It was like right after school was out, boom, staying at the grandparents. Up at four in the morning. I am feeding the calves their "formula". And you really don't want to know what that looks like. But Mom, she is giving her milk to the tanks in the milk parlor. And mid-morning, a real tanker will show up to cart it away.

It is not even summer yet, but thankfully, the sun is up when all is done. Me and the cousins clean it all up, the grandparents cook, and bake, breakfast. OMG, amazing. But it is much needed fuel. We on the tractors, combine is running, uncle is in the dump truck, it is get the early wheat in, rake and bale the straw, and get it up top, in the barn loft, three stories up. We fill up the silo, cramp up the barn loft, and I get to go back across the damn river. Till right before the

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You got that documented? I would like to see some numbers, should be easy to find.

Ireland dropped their rate to 12.5%

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Why yes, higher marginal tax rates do subsidize risk higher than lower marginal tax rates. Another way to look at it is that taxes are the "cost" of taking money out of a business. Because you don't pay taxes on money you reinvest in the company.

How many people start a business thinking they'll reinvest all the profits.....forever?

If you lower the cost of taking money out of the business why would anyone believe that would encourage companies to leave more money in the business? Yet that is the entire argument of lowering corporate taxes.

I'd rather start a business in a place where I can keep 80% of the profits than in a place
where I can only keep 20%. Even though the WACC is higher in the former than the latter.
Which one would you prefer?

Right how would tariffs impact inflation? Are you arguing that it would not spur inflation

Tariffs don't increase the money supply; they do increase some prices.

Well see, that is just it. Those illegals, they benefit us all. Every economic study, and almost every real economist, support the reality, they give more than they take. I see it, on a professional and on a personal level, almost every single day.

Do all the illegals benefit all of us? Really?

In Chicago, we spend nearly $18,000 per year per student in the public schools.
How is an illegal alien "giving more than they take", to cover that bill?

And the Americans who had their jobs taken, do they benefit?
And the victims of their crimes?

You know. I kind of just want to stop right there. I mean the topic is inflation, right? Trump has talked about stopping, or taxing, remittances, a huge part of the immigration issue. How do those remittances, money they send back to their home country, impact inflation, first, here, but second, in their home country, and yes, this is a test.

Well, typically, if we get goods and services for pieces of paper and then the paper is sent away, never to return, that would be deflationary.
 
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