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Right! That's not where you want the conversation to go. You know that it's just heading into a box canyon. Pretty much the same as Flash did when I told him that Canadians get some HC from big tech companies for 1/10 the cost Americans pay.WTF are you talking about? All I said was that there are lots of example of what you're talking about. I see no point in listing them all.
Which other tune do you imagine I will whistle?
Yeah. You seem to be missing the point.
WTF? Box canyon?? I really don't know what you're going on about.Right! That's not where you want the conversation to go. You know that it's just heading into a box canyon.
Uh, ok. Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I agree.The point being that the new technology diagnostic and treatment equipment didn't make itself and if we want it then we are going to have to pay for it.
That's probably quite true.It wasn't luck. It was working hard.
I have a way of getting the lunch to you at 1/10 the price!The point being that the new technology diagnostic and treatment equipment didn't make itself and if we want it then we are going to have to pay for it.
Like Heinlein said "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
The big difference, however, lies in whether they are voluntary or not. Socialized medicine is forced on all.Yes, cost sharing is a great example! Everybody shares in the cost of HC for all the American people.
That's the group insurance concept that gives employers a lower price for insurance.
Both your suggestion and insurance companies 'dictate' prices. The difference is that your suggestion dictates fairer or lower prices.
Canada's universal HC is really just 'group' insurance on a large scale. The bigger the 'group', the better the price.
I completely understand what you want because I have what you want.
In fact, the world's plans force doctors to perform more cost efficiently. One example of many is requiring a doctor to use a simple X-ray when the MRI isn't necessary. There are many more examples but that should serve to introduce the principle idea.
The downside is that some doctors run from Canada to the US. But do consider that the US currently gives them a place to run to. At the American people's expense of course.
Private HC will go to huge expense to keep the socialist wolves away from their doors.
The rest of the world took the side of the wolves.
The point being that the new technology diagnostic and treatment equipment didn't make itself and if we want it then we are going to have to pay for it.
Like Heinlein said "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
So you're suggesting that what works in Canada can't work in a country with 330 million.Dude, the entire country of Canada has about the same population as California. Yes, that makes a huge difference.
A regular physical exam might run to $200. That's $800 a year for a family of four. Try this, contact your doctor and offer him $600 cash every year to do physicals for a family of four. No insurance companies to wrangle, no co-pays to collect. You could probably get the deal and be able to cut hundreds off your insurance plan.
Your HC system is so far completely safe from the socialist wolves at the door.
Yes, greed is a huge factor.
Is the cost of pharmaceuticals negotiable? Can those big companies supply it to the people at 1/10 the price is some instances?
That's what low premium catastrophic care plans with high deductibles are for.That's fine and dandy.
What about when you go into the hospital with Covid. Or your son breaks an arm. Or your wife comes down with pneumonia? It's not "IF" you need healthcare. It's when.
I suspect the MRI that you have at your local diagnostic center is probably much better than the technology of 20 years ago.Wait a minute. Healthcare is the ONLY industry where technology allows lower costs. MRI's have been around for a long time now. But the cost of one just keeps going up and up.
I suspect the MRI that you have at your local diagnostic center is probably much better than the technology of 20 years ago.
However, to put things in perspective the technology of vehicles have increased significantly in the last couple of decades and they are now more expensive.
The point I was making is that improved technology and accessibility to that techology have helped to increase cost of health care.
However, government destruction of the free market takes the cake.
That's what low premium catastrophic care plans with high deductibles are for.
The cost of the pharmaceuticals to the people obviously. Canadians get some at 1/10 the cost to Americans because it's negotiated. You got yourself barking up the wrong tree that time Truly.1/10th of who's cost? The citizens? Or the governments? It still costs. And "we the people" still pay for it.
I didn't but if it's true then there would be no doubt that Trump should be roundly praised for it.I heard Biden reversed something that Trump initiated that kept the cost of insulin down.
It would depending on how high the deductible is. Once you meet that, it covers the rest.Catastrophic doesn't pay for a broken arm or a few nights in the hospital for the flu.
Also because Canadian drug companies don't have to cover the cost of development and marketing. It costs a LOT to bring a new drug to market, costs that need to be recovered.The cost of the pharmaceuticals to the people obviously. Canadians get some at 1/10 the cost to Americans because it's negotiated. You got yourself barking up the wrong tree that time Truly.
I didn't but if it's true then there would be no doubt that Trump should be roundly praised for it.
Where did you get that idea? Of course Canadian shareholders pay the same as US shareholdersAlso because Canadian drug companies don't have to cover the cost of development and marketing. It costs a LOT to bring a new drug to market, costs that need to be recovered.
