Cost for Fauxcohontas' "Medicare for all" scheme jumps from $34 TRILLION to $52 TRILLION.

[edthecynic]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

 

[edthecynic]

If it was a failed website you NAZIS would not have felt the need to lie about it costing $6 billion!
Try a new lie!

What Demtards call success:

View attachment 287674

The Right has to LIE by photoshop because there is no such live link.
Thank you!

 

[mdk]

You seem to need a lot of attention.

You don’t even know the half of it.

 

[Nostra]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

You are one guy. My wife is in the profession and has contact with dozens of doctors. Many refuse to take medicare/medicaid.

 

[edthecynic]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

You are one guy. My wife is in the profession and has contact with dozens of doctors. Many refuse to take medicare/medicaid.

BULLSHIT!

 

[Papageorgio]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

 

[Nostra]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

You are one guy. My wife is in the profession and has contact with dozens of doctors. Many refuse to take medicare/medicaid.

BULLSHIT!

You clearly are clueless. Typical Dimwinger.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bernie has the solution. Purchased from the very guy who sold Jack the bean for the beanstalk.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[edthecynic]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

Just more BULLSHIT from the same liars who LIED about the ACA turning FT jobs into PT jobs.
You LIARS have NO credibility.

 

[eagle1462010]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

Just more BULLSHIT from the same liars who LIED about the ACA turning FT jobs into PT jobs.
You LIARS have NO credibility.

Guess you didn't notice the smaller companies for lower pay did just that.

Liars...........LOL.........How the hell you gonna pay for all this Free Shit.........hmmmm

Ass Party mascot........fitting.

 

[Papageorgio]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

Just more BULLSHIT from the same liars who LIED about the ACA turning FT jobs into PT jobs.
You LIARS have NO credibility.

You don’t want to believe it, I have no problem with that. The fact is you don’t want to discuss anything or look at anything from more than your narrow minded view, I’m good with that also. The US is going to come together and we won’t have any use for people like yourself.

 

[edthecynic]

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

Just more BULLSHIT from the same liars who LIED about the ACA turning FT jobs into PT jobs.
You LIARS have NO credibility.

Guess you didn't notice the smaller companies for lower pay did just that.

Didn't notice it because the actual data shows it didn't happen.
Of course, no amount of data will ever stop the Right from lying!

 

[RealDave]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Many doctors refuse medicare/medicaid patients because of slow pay and low reimbursements.

BULLSHIT!
I've NEVER had a doctor refuse to take my medicare.
This is like the ACA turned FT jobs to PT jobs LIE, they find one or two EXCEPTIONS and then LIE by generalization.

Not that high yet, Medicaid is rejected by a third of the doctors, Medicare has lower numbers however they are rising. Reimbursement issues, red tape and reduced payments are cited as the primary cause.
More Physicians No Longer Seeing Medicare Patients – Healthcare Leadership Council

HLC wants the corporate take over of Medicare.

That 1/3 is 100% bullshit.

You are so easily duped or just another lying Trumpette.

 

[RealDave]

So we don't have private hospitals here in the US> Who knew?

How long do you think they've got after gubmit decides how much to pay them and how long they'll have to wait to get paid?

Do you have any idea how much hospitals lose serving Medicare and Medicaid patients now?

I have a friend that was an administrator at a hospital. Private healthcare heavily subsidizes gubmit healthcare.

Private healthcare is private doctors & private hospitals.

 

[RealDave]

If Europe and Canada (our hat) can pull off public healthcare then so can we. It's just a question of desire and culture. Will we? Should we? I don't know. Can we? **** yes we can. You severely underestimate our nation if you think not. We are the United motherfucking States.

The moron claims it will cost $54 TRILLION, which means it will actually cost over $100 TRILLION (if we are lucky). And she claims she will pay for it by taxing employers to the tune of tens of trillions.............but the middle class won't suffer.

She is clearly an economic idiot.

WOW! The $52 trillion LIE jumps to $54 trillion and then $100 trillion in only 7 posts. Her government program is actually only $20.5 trillion.

Because the government is great at managing money.

Look how well public schools do, highest costs and mediocre results. We should we expect anything different when the government takes over healthcare.

Public schools do great. You can't compare some private school who chooses their students as a comparison.

 

[Aletheia4u]

And yet the moron is still claiming she won't have to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it.

And the window licking Dimwinger base will buy it.


EXCLUSIVE: Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren’s long-awaited "Medicare-for-all" funding plan projects the government-run health care system would cost a staggering sum of "just under $52 trillion" over the next decade, with the campaign proposing a host of new tax increases to pay for it while still claiming the middle class would not face any additional burden.

“We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class by one penny to finance Medicare for All,” Sen. Warren, D-Mass., said in her plan — a copy of which was obtained by Fox News in advance of its release Friday.


Warren’s $52T 'Medicare-for-all' plan revealed: Campaign still claims no middle-class tax hikes needed

I was wondering how they re going to enforce taxing the people over $3,000 per month, since the military are going to be taxed too. But I see that they are giving the ex-military discounts, so that they will not care about the tax hike. And anyone who is a U.N. Peacekeeper or any other of their enforcement team. Will not have to worry about being taxed. And so they made sure that they will have enforcers to enforce their agendas.

• Arizona – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $2,500.

• Colorado – Depending on age, up to $24,000 of military retirement pay may be exempt from state taxes.

• Delaware – Taxpayers up to the age of 60 may exclude up to $2,000 of military retirement pay, military retirees aged 60 or older exclude up to $12,500.

• District of Colombia – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $3,000 for individuals 62 or older.

• Georgia – Georgia has a provision for any retirement income including military retirement pay. Taxpayers who are 62 or older, or permanently and totally disabled regardless of age, may be eligible for a retirement income adjustment on their Georgia tax return. Up to $35,000 ages 62-64 and $65,000 for 65 and older.

• Idaho – Retirement benefits to a retired member of the military 65 or older, or disabled and age 62 or older are excluded from state taxes. Such deductions must be reduced by retirement benefits paid under the Federal Social Security Act or the Tier 1 Federal Railroad Retirement Act. The total maximum deductions vary each year.

Read more: States that Don't Tax Military Retirement Pay | Military Benefits

No U.S. tax paid. Days of presence in the United States are not counted for “exempt individuals.”



Exempt individuals include foreign individuals who are present in the United States by reason of his/her full-time employment with the United Nations. Members of the “immediate family” of a full-time employee of an international organization are also considered exempt individuals for purposes of the Substantial Presence Test. Immediate family members include the eligible employee’s spouse and unmarried children under age 21 provided that their visa statuses are dependent upon the employee’s visa status. What Your Need to know About UN Income US Taxes




Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight 'Extremism' In U.S. | Breitbart
Barack Obama Is The First United Nations President

 

[Nostra]

And yet the moron is still claiming she won't have to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it.

And the window licking Dimwinger base will buy it.


EXCLUSIVE: Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren’s long-awaited "Medicare-for-all" funding plan projects the government-run health care system would cost a staggering sum of "just under $52 trillion" over the next decade, with the campaign proposing a host of new tax increases to pay for it while still claiming the middle class would not face any additional burden.

“We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class by one penny to finance Medicare for All,” Sen. Warren, D-Mass., said in her plan — a copy of which was obtained by Fox News in advance of its release Friday.


Warren’s $52T 'Medicare-for-all' plan revealed: Campaign still claims no middle-class tax hikes needed

I was wondering how they re going to enforce taxing the people over $3,000 per month, since the military are going to be taxed too. But I see that they are giving the ex-military discounts, so that they will not care about the tax hike. And anyone who is a U.N. Peacekeeper or any other of their enforcement team. Will not have to worry about being taxed. And so they made sure that they will have enforcers to enforce their agendas.

• Arizona – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $2,500.

• Colorado – Depending on age, up to $24,000 of military retirement pay may be exempt from state taxes.

• Delaware – Taxpayers up to the age of 60 may exclude up to $2,000 of military retirement pay, military retirees aged 60 or older exclude up to $12,500.

• District of Colombia – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $3,000 for individuals 62 or older.

• Georgia – Georgia has a provision for any retirement income including military retirement pay. Taxpayers who are 62 or older, or permanently and totally disabled regardless of age, may be eligible for a retirement income adjustment on their Georgia tax return. Up to $35,000 ages 62-64 and $65,000 for 65 and older.

• Idaho – Retirement benefits to a retired member of the military 65 or older, or disabled and age 62 or older are excluded from state taxes. Such deductions must be reduced by retirement benefits paid under the Federal Social Security Act or the Tier 1 Federal Railroad Retirement Act. The total maximum deductions vary each year.

Read more: States that Don't Tax Military Retirement Pay | Military Benefits

No U.S. tax paid. Days of presence in the United States are not counted for “exempt individuals.”



Exempt individuals include foreign individuals who are present in the United States by reason of his/her full-time employment with the United Nations. Members of the “immediate family” of a full-time employee of an international organization are also considered exempt individuals for purposes of the Substantial Presence Test. Immediate family members include the eligible employee’s spouse and unmarried children under age 21 provided that their visa statuses are dependent upon the employee’s visa status. What Your Need to know About UN Income US Taxes




Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight 'Extremism' In U.S. | Breitbart
Barack Obama Is The First United Nations President

So, where does Fauxcohontas get her $52 TRILLION?

 

[RealDave]

And yet the moron is still claiming she won't have to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it.

And the window licking Dimwinger base will buy it.


EXCLUSIVE: Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren’s long-awaited "Medicare-for-all" funding plan projects the government-run health care system would cost a staggering sum of "just under $52 trillion" over the next decade, with the campaign proposing a host of new tax increases to pay for it while still claiming the middle class would not face any additional burden.

“We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class by one penny to finance Medicare for All,” Sen. Warren, D-Mass., said in her plan — a copy of which was obtained by Fox News in advance of its release Friday.


Warren’s $52T 'Medicare-for-all' plan revealed: Campaign still claims no middle-class tax hikes needed

I was wondering how they re going to enforce taxing the people over $3,000 per month, since the military are going to be taxed too. But I see that they are giving the ex-military discounts, so that they will not care about the tax hike. And anyone who is a U.N. Peacekeeper or any other of their enforcement team. Will not have to worry about being taxed. And so they made sure that they will have enforcers to enforce their agendas.

• Arizona – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $2,500.

• Colorado – Depending on age, up to $24,000 of military retirement pay may be exempt from state taxes.

• Delaware – Taxpayers up to the age of 60 may exclude up to $2,000 of military retirement pay, military retirees aged 60 or older exclude up to $12,500.

• District of Colombia – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $3,000 for individuals 62 or older.

• Georgia – Georgia has a provision for any retirement income including military retirement pay. Taxpayers who are 62 or older, or permanently and totally disabled regardless of age, may be eligible for a retirement income adjustment on their Georgia tax return. Up to $35,000 ages 62-64 and $65,000 for 65 and older.

• Idaho – Retirement benefits to a retired member of the military 65 or older, or disabled and age 62 or older are excluded from state taxes. Such deductions must be reduced by retirement benefits paid under the Federal Social Security Act or the Tier 1 Federal Railroad Retirement Act. The total maximum deductions vary each year.

Read more: States that Don't Tax Military Retirement Pay | Military Benefits

No U.S. tax paid. Days of presence in the United States are not counted for “exempt individuals.”



Exempt individuals include foreign individuals who are present in the United States by reason of his/her full-time employment with the United Nations. Members of the “immediate family” of a full-time employee of an international organization are also considered exempt individuals for purposes of the Substantial Presence Test. Immediate family members include the eligible employee’s spouse and unmarried children under age 21 provided that their visa statuses are dependent upon the employee’s visa status. What Your Need to know About UN Income US Taxes




Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight 'Extremism' In U.S. | Breitbart
Barack Obama Is The First United Nations President

So, where does Fauxcohontas get her $52 TRILLION?

So you buy insurance as an individual & you are say 52 years old,you monthly premiums could be $1500.00 plus a deductible & plus copays. So how much could you pay in taxes & still spend less?
If as a corporation, your costs per employee might be $1000 a month, the employee could pat a few hundred, plus copays & deductibles. How much can the corp and employee pay into Medicare for all & still be less?

What we spend in funding Medicare will be less than what we spend now.

Most middle class people that are under 65, get insurance through their employer. Instead they will pay a tax. A bonus for them.

If Warren finds other revenue instead of the middle class, it is a huge plus for middle class Americans.

You can lie, stomp your feet, pout all you want.

It is a good deal for all Americans.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

And yet the moron is still claiming she won't have to raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it.

And the window licking Dimwinger base will buy it.


EXCLUSIVE: Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren’s long-awaited "Medicare-for-all" funding plan projects the government-run health care system would cost a staggering sum of "just under $52 trillion" over the next decade, with the campaign proposing a host of new tax increases to pay for it while still claiming the middle class would not face any additional burden.

“We don’t need to raise taxes on the middle class by one penny to finance Medicare for All,” Sen. Warren, D-Mass., said in her plan — a copy of which was obtained by Fox News in advance of its release Friday.


Warren’s $52T 'Medicare-for-all' plan revealed: Campaign still claims no middle-class tax hikes needed

I was wondering how they re going to enforce taxing the people over $3,000 per month, since the military are going to be taxed too. But I see that they are giving the ex-military discounts, so that they will not care about the tax hike. And anyone who is a U.N. Peacekeeper or any other of their enforcement team. Will not have to worry about being taxed. And so they made sure that they will have enforcers to enforce their agendas.

• Arizona – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $2,500.

• Colorado – Depending on age, up to $24,000 of military retirement pay may be exempt from state taxes.

• Delaware – Taxpayers up to the age of 60 may exclude up to $2,000 of military retirement pay, military retirees aged 60 or older exclude up to $12,500.

• District of Colombia – Military retirement pay may be excluded from state taxation up to $3,000 for individuals 62 or older.

• Georgia – Georgia has a provision for any retirement income including military retirement pay. Taxpayers who are 62 or older, or permanently and totally disabled regardless of age, may be eligible for a retirement income adjustment on their Georgia tax return. Up to $35,000 ages 62-64 and $65,000 for 65 and older.

• Idaho – Retirement benefits to a retired member of the military 65 or older, or disabled and age 62 or older are excluded from state taxes. Such deductions must be reduced by retirement benefits paid under the Federal Social Security Act or the Tier 1 Federal Railroad Retirement Act. The total maximum deductions vary each year.

Read more: States that Don't Tax Military Retirement Pay | Military Benefits

No U.S. tax paid. Days of presence in the United States are not counted for “exempt individuals.”



Exempt individuals include foreign individuals who are present in the United States by reason of his/her full-time employment with the United Nations. Members of the “immediate family” of a full-time employee of an international organization are also considered exempt individuals for purposes of the Substantial Presence Test. Immediate family members include the eligible employee’s spouse and unmarried children under age 21 provided that their visa statuses are dependent upon the employee’s visa status. What Your Need to know About UN Income US Taxes




Obama Administration and UN Announce Global Police Force to Fight 'Extremism' In U.S. | Breitbart
Barack Obama Is The First United Nations President

So, where does Fauxcohontas get her $52 TRILLION?

So you buy insurance as an individual & you are say 52 years old,you monthly premiums could be $1500.00 plus a deductible & plus copays. So how much could you pay in taxes & still spend less?
If as a corporation, your costs per employee might be $1000 a month, the employee could pat a few hundred, plus copays & deductibles. How much can the corp and employee pay into Medicare for all & still be less?

What we spend in funding Medicare will be less than what we spend now.

Most middle class people that are under 65, get insurance through their employer. Instead they will pay a tax. A bonus for them.

If Warren finds other revenue instead of the middle class, it is a huge plus for middle class Americans.

You can lie, stomp your feet, pout all you want.

It is a good deal for all Americans.

Where does the 32 trillion plus come from dumbass?

Stop your left loon shit and get wise