corrupt US government blocks UN from having an independent investigation into 61 murdered palestines

[Billo_Really]

An "occupational force" is not legally or morally permitted to defend its own citizens? Ridiculous.

Not when you are initiating the violence. You are putting your citizens in harms way.

 

[member]

An "occupational force" is not legally or morally permitted to defend its own citizens? Ridiculous.

Not when you are initiating the violence. You are putting your citizens in harms way.

"Not when you are initiating the violence"






lies.

 

[Shusha]

You can only use deadly force if your life is threatened.

That is interesting. Things you CAN'T use deadly force for:

blockades
"occupation"
territory disputes
border disputes
there was a "Nakba"
we don't have a State
Jews have hearts in their chests

 

[Andylusion]

cant have that,cant have an IMPARTIAL non biased objective investigation Into Israeal murdering 61 palestines,nope. Our government here in the states has so much freaking power its disgusting. when is the rest of the world going to stand up to these two corrupt nations? .

US Praises Israel, Blocks UN Call for Investigation Into the Killing of 61 Palestinians

On a personal note, I've seen the videos. There is no need for an investigation. Animals attempting to kill people, were shot. This is the very definition of "defending your country".

As for the US itself.... good. They stood up for what was right, against what is evil.

 

[Shusha]

Not when you are initiating the violence. You are putting your citizens in harms way.

So, if you put your citizens in harm's way, its your fault? No WAY!

 

[Billo_Really]

That is interesting. Things you CAN'T use deadly force for:

blockades
"occupation"
territory disputes
border disputes
there was a "Nakba"
we don't have a State
Jews have hearts in their chests

I find it interesting on the one hand, you are outraged over 26 deaths in 17 years, and on the other hand, you're perfectly okay with 65 deaths in the last 4 weeks.

Your hypocrisy speaks volumes.

 

[Billo_Really]

So, if you put your citizens in harm's way, its your fault? No WAY!

If you started the conflict, of coarse it is.

It's our fault for Vietnam. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was made up bullshit. No different than your throwing rock threat.

 

[Hollie]

That is interesting. Things you CAN'T use deadly force for:

blockades
"occupation"
territory disputes
border disputes
there was a "Nakba"
we don't have a State
Jews have hearts in their chests

I find it interesting on the one hand, you are outraged over 26 deaths in 17 years, and on the other hand, you're perfectly okay with 65 deaths in the last 4 weeks.

Your hypocrisy speaks volumes.

What is the correct ratio of deaths in terms of Islamic terrorist attacks vs. Israeli retaliation?

Shirley, you have a number for that.

 

[Shusha]

So, if you put your citizens in harm's way, its your fault? No WAY!

If you started the conflict, of coarse it is.

It's our fault for Vietnam. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was made up bullshit. No different than your throwing rock threat.

Ah. So how do you figure out who 'started' a conflict? Because it seems to me that amassing tens of thousands at a border with intent to cross it and rip hearts out is starting something

 

[Billo_Really]

Ah. So how do you figure out who 'started' a conflict? Because it seems to me that amassing tens of thousands at a border with intent to cross it and rip hearts out is starting something

You started the occupation in '67 and the blockade in 2006.

You started it!

 

[Anathema]

You can only use deadly force if your life is threatened. Is your life threatened by someone throwing a rock 300 feet away? Throwing a rock is not a capital crime. If you don't see how wrong it is to shoot someone for throwing a rock, then you don't know the basic difference between right and wrong.

Obviously you and I live by different ROEs. You throw an egg st mu car while I'm going down the street, you stand a better than average chance of getting lit up like the 4th of July. Throw a rock and that chance becomes a certainty. Regardless of distance.

Israel is wrong. And they should be investigated for their crimes.

Israel couldn't be more correct and wed ve wise to take their lessons to heart on both our borders.

 

[Shusha]

That is interesting. Things you CAN'T use deadly force for:

blockades
"occupation"
territory disputes
border disputes
there was a "Nakba"
we don't have a State
Jews have hearts in their chests

I find it interesting on the one hand, you are outraged over 26 deaths in 17 years, and on the other hand, you're perfectly okay with 65 deaths in the last 4 weeks.

Your hypocrisy speaks volumes.

It's not about the numbers.

I teach self defense to women. If every woman I teach who is attacked with lethal force happened to kill her attacker I would be COMPLETELY okay with that.

No innocent dead. Lots of dead attackers. Fine with me.

I am outraged when innocents are killed and satisfied when murderous attackers are killed.

It's the polar opposite of you. You are perfectly fine with 26 dead Innocent Jews but rage and fuss and whine when terrorists meet their end.


The hypocrisy is when you apply one set of rules to one people (you can only apply lethal force when your own life is threatened) and an entirely different set of rules to another people (you have the right to 'resist' using lethal force even if your life is not threatened).

 

[frigidweirdo]

cant have that,cant have an IMPARTIAL non biased objective investigation Into Israeal murdering 61 palestines,nope. Our government here in the states has so much freaking power its disgusting. when is the rest of the world going to stand up to these two corrupt nations? .

US Praises Israel, Blocks UN Call for Investigation Into the Killing of 61 Palestinians

The UN will always struggle to be worthy when the largest and most powerful nations have permanent veto power.

It's like having a mafia which controls the judges.

 

[Hollie]

Ah. So how do you figure out who 'started' a conflict? Because it seems to me that amassing tens of thousands at a border with intent to cross it and rip hearts out is starting something

You started the occupation in '67 and the blockade in 2006.

You started it!

If memory serves, you started a war in 1967. 2006 was the beginning of a continuous salvo of rocket and mortar attacks that would reach more than 10,000 instances.

How many do-overs are Islamic terrorists entitled to?

 

[Billo_Really]

Obviously you and I live by different ROEs. You throw an egg st mu car while I'm going down the street, you stand a better than average chance of getting lit up like the 4th of July. Throw a rock and that chance becomes a certainty. Regardless of distance.



Israel couldn't be more correct and wed ve wise to take their lessons to heart on both our borders.

You think it is okay to murder anyone you don't like?

 

[Shusha]

Ah. So how do you figure out who 'started' a conflict? Because it seems to me that amassing tens of thousands at a border with intent to cross it and rip hearts out is starting something

You started the occupation in '67 and the blockade in 2006.

You started it!

So did the conflict start in 1967 or in 2006?

When did the conflict start? Pick your date. Pick the event which 'started' the conflict. Remembering that your claim is that those who 'start' the conflict have no right to defend themselves.

 

[Billo_Really]

It's not about the numbers.

I teach self defense to women. If every woman I teach who is attacked with lethal force happened to kill her attacker I would be COMPLETELY okay with that.

No innocent dead. Lots of dead attackers. Fine with me.

I am outraged when innocents are killed and satisfied when murderous attackers are killed.

It's the polar opposite of you. You are perfectly fine with 26 dead Innocent Jews but rage and fuss and whine when terrorists meet their end.


The hypocrisy is when you apply one set of rules to one people (you can only apply lethal force when your own life is threatened) and an entirely different set of rules to another people (you have the right to 'resist' using lethal force even if your life is not threatened).

You are not outraged when innocents are killed! The other day, you defended shooting a can of tear gas at an 8 month old baby. Every day you defend the murder of 65 Palestinians. Not only are you a hypocrite, but you are a liar as well.

 

[Billo_Really]

So did the conflict start in 1967 or in 2006?

When did the conflict start? Pick your date. Pick the event which 'started' the conflict. Remembering that your claim is that those who 'start' the conflict have no right to defend themselves.

I think I was pretty clear. The occupation started in '67 and the blockade began in 2006. In both times, you are at fault, because those were YOUR decisions.

Now, don't take what I said about the right to defend yourselves out of context. Everyone has a right to defend themselves, however, what I said in regards to the occupation, blockade and Palestinian resistance, is that you cannot claim self defense when you respond. As long as you continue the occupation and blockade, it is not self defense, it is aggression.

End the occupation and blockade, then, and only then, will it become self defense if you are attacked.

 

[Shusha]

It's not about the numbers.

I teach self defense to women. If every woman I teach who is attacked with lethal force happened to kill her attacker I would be COMPLETELY okay with that.

No innocent dead. Lots of dead attackers. Fine with me.

I am outraged when innocents are killed and satisfied when murderous attackers are killed.

It's the polar opposite of you. You are perfectly fine with 26 dead Innocent Jews but rage and fuss and whine when terrorists meet their end.


The hypocrisy is when you apply one set of rules to one people (you can only apply lethal force when your own life is threatened) and an entirely different set of rules to another people (you have the right to 'resist' using lethal force even if your life is not threatened).

You are not outraged when innocents are killed! The other day, you defended shooting a can of tear gas at an 8 month old baby. Every day you defend the murder of 65 Palestinians. Not only are you a hypocrite, but you are a liar as well.

Hard eyeroll.

No one shot a can of tear gas at an eight month old baby as a deliberate act. There was a violent riot where non-lethal riot suppression measures were being taken. Everyone was aware of that fact. Someone brought a baby to a violent riot. The baby had an existing heart condition. The baby died. It has nothing at all to do with Israel.

I defend the defense of Israel and her citizens against violent attacks. Absolutely justifiable.

If you want to argue that there was absolutely NO threat to Israel and it was a perfectly peaceful protest, I have only to provide a few instances of lethal, violent action to prove you wrong. And there are PLENTY of those to go around.

 

[Hollie]

It's not about the numbers.

I teach self defense to women. If every woman I teach who is attacked with lethal force happened to kill her attacker I would be COMPLETELY okay with that.

No innocent dead. Lots of dead attackers. Fine with me.

I am outraged when innocents are killed and satisfied when murderous attackers are killed.

It's the polar opposite of you. You are perfectly fine with 26 dead Innocent Jews but rage and fuss and whine when terrorists meet their end.


The hypocrisy is when you apply one set of rules to one people (you can only apply lethal force when your own life is threatened) and an entirely different set of rules to another people (you have the right to 'resist' using lethal force even if your life is not threatened).

You are not outraged when innocents are killed! The other day, you defended shooting a can of tear gas at an 8 month old baby. Every day you defend the murder of 65 Palestinians. Not only are you a hypocrite, but you are a liar as well.

When a nominee for “Islamic Mother of the Year” takes an 8 month old infant with a heart condition to an Islamic terrorist initiated war zone, you need to be a bit more discriminating with your “hypocrite” and “liar” slogans.