Cop On Black Violence

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The killing in Ferguson was one of many such cases. Here's what the data reveals
By Jaeah Lee
Fri Aug. 15, 2014

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Here's some of what we do know:
Previous attempts to analyze racial bias in police shootings have arrived at similar conclusions. In 2007, ColorLines and the Chicago Reporterinvestigated fatal police shootings in 10 major cities, and found that there were a disproportionately high number of African Americans among police shooting victims in every one, particularly in New York, San Diego, and Las Vegas.

"We need not look for individual racists to say that we have a culture of policing that is really rubbing salt into longstanding racial wounds," NAACP president Cornell Williams Brooks told Mother Jones. It's a culture in which people suspected of minor crimes are met with "overwhelmingly major, often lethal, use of force," he says.

In Oakland, California, the NAACP reported that out of 45 officer-involved shootings in the city between 2004 and 2008, 37 of those shot were black. None were white. One-third of the shootings resulted in fatalities. Although weapons were not found in 40 percent of cases, the NAACP found, no officers were charged. (These numbers don't include 22-year-old Oscar Grant, who was shot and killed by a transit authority officer at the Fruitvale BART station on New Year's Day of 2009.)

The New York City Police Department has reported similar trends in its firearms discharge report, which shows that more black people have been shot by NYPD officers between 2000 and 2011 than have Hispanics or whites.

When you look at the racial breakdown of New Yorkers, black people are disproportionately represented among those targeted as criminal shooting suspects, firearms arrestees, and those fired upon or struck by police gunfire.

NYPD Firearms Discharge Report, 2011​

Often, the police officers do not get convicted or sentenced. Delores Jones-Brown, a law professor and director of the Center on Race, Crime, and Statistics at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, has identified dozens of black men and women who have died at the hands of police going back as far as 1994. She notes that while these incidents happen regularly, it often takes a high-profile case, such as Brown's, to bring other recent incidents to national attention.

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[S.J.]

Mother Jones, huh?

KOOK ALERT!

 

[Meathead]

“But resist, we much… we must… and we will much… about… that… be committed.”

 

[Ernie S.]

Could it be that blacks more often violently confront police officers. Dig up some numbers on the race of those who violently resist officers trying to affect an arrest. Report back.

 

[Ernie S.]

a black defendant in a misdemeanor drug possession case is 85.4% more likely to get charged with resisting arrest than a white defendant.

LINK

 

[S.J.]

a black defendant in a misdemeanor drug possession case is 85.4% more likely to get charged with resisting arrest than a white defendant.

LINK

Could it possibly be that more blacks resist arrest?

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

more marxist race-baiting

 

[Ernie S.]

a black defendant in a misdemeanor drug possession case is 85.4% more likely to get charged with resisting arrest than a white defendant.

LINK

Could it possibly be that more blacks resist arrest?

Most definitely! The bleeding hearts could get away with a charge of racism in some cases, but the disparity in the number of arrests logically indicates a huge disparity in the number of actual offenses.
The point is that blacks, taught from an early age that cops are racist, are more likely to FEEL that they are being discriminated against and are more likely to act irrationally because of that feeling.
Whites, however, more often than not, comply with officers' requests and don't resist.

Don't want to get shot while resisting arrest? Don't resist arrest. It's all very simple.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Blacks commit 5-10 times as much crime. Why shouldn't they be on the wrong side of the law more than other racial groups?

 

[Judicial review]

All it is is blacks are out a night because they can blend in better, then they get arrested and the judge is ornery, because it's morning, and wants to get to lunch? Could it be that simple? Try to put yourself in the blacks shoes.. Is that how you would think?

 

[Meathead]

All it is is blacks are out a night because they can blend in better, then they get arrested and the judge is ornery, because it's morning, and wants to get to lunch? Could it be that simple? Try to put yourself in the blacks shoes.. Is that how you would think?

In black, tan or clown shoes, I would certainly think and articulate more clearly than that train-wreck of the English language above.

 

[FA_Q2]

Could it be that blacks more often violently confront police officers. Dig up some numbers on the race of those who violently resist officers trying to affect an arrest. Report back.

And commit more crime as well.

The disparity is mired in cultural problems and norms more than it is rooted in racism. That does not allow for a victim mentality though so it is not an answer that many are willing to accept.

 

[Star]

Could it be that blacks more often violently confront police officers. Dig up some numbers on the race of those who violently resist officers trying to affect an arrest. Report back.

And commit more crime as well.

The disparity is mired in cultural problems and norms more than it is rooted in racism. That does not allow for a victim mentality though so it is not an answer that many are willing to accept.

The article in Ernie S.'s Link sums up the reason for the disparity in resisting arrest between blacks and whites in this sentence ☞ “I think it’s reflective of the fact that the police are physically abusive towards people of color and treat them with less respect than whites who are arrested,”
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[gtopa1]

When one looks at the "Link", one finds that resisting arrest occurs in about 3% of cases for Blacks and a bit under 2% for whites wrt drugs, and about 2% and 1% respectively for theft. What's the point of even looking at these? WRT "Disorderly Conduct" the figures are more significant but still about 12% and 6% resp.

So why is that? Nothing in the article gives any "reasons" apart from racist cops. That seems pretty stupid as there are dozens of factors that may well be at play one being a cultural attitude towards police.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Another factor is that violence in the Black Community is much higher (ratio) than in white communities, so one finds that reflected in response to arrest rates.

The black arrest rate for most offenses — including robbery, aggravated assault and property crimes — is still typically two to three times their representation in the population.

Read more: Family secret What the left won t tell you about black crime - Washington Times
In short; it's a cultural problem....and hence an individual problem!!

Greg

 

[FA_Q2]

Could it be that blacks more often violently confront police officers. Dig up some numbers on the race of those who violently resist officers trying to affect an arrest. Report back.

And commit more crime as well.

The disparity is mired in cultural problems and norms more than it is rooted in racism. That does not allow for a victim mentality though so it is not an answer that many are willing to accept.

The article in Ernie S.'s Link sums up the reason for the disparity in resisting arrest between blacks and whites in this sentence ☞ “I think it’s reflective of the fact that the police are physically abusive towards people of color and treat them with less respect than whites who are arrested,”
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It sums up what they think. That is based on the unfailing need to find victims in everyone. I don't really care how bad the cops are - deal with that AFTER the fact because as soon as you resist arrest - YOU are going to be the one found at fault. Ever. Single. Time.

I have had cops treat me like a piece of shit too - it is not because of race. It is because cops are usually on a power trip. I am not going to get shot over pride because I don't like the way the cops are acting though. Put body cams on them already - give the public the truth AND force the cop to treat them accordingly.

 

[Ernie S.]

Could it be that blacks more often violently confront police officers. Dig up some numbers on the race of those who violently resist officers trying to affect an arrest. Report back.

And commit more crime as well.

The disparity is mired in cultural problems and norms more than it is rooted in racism. That does not allow for a victim mentality though so it is not an answer that many are willing to accept.

The article in Ernie S.'s Link sums up the reason for the disparity in resisting arrest between blacks and whites in this sentence ☞ “I think it’s reflective of the fact that the police are physically abusive towards people of color and treat them with less respect than whites who are arrested,”
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That's a thought from a supposed "expert". Statistics don't bare that out. read the rest of the article.

While some cops are frustrated by the high degree of criminal activity by blacks and may go somewhat rougher on them, the fact that blacks more often resist arrest and fail to comply with direction makes a confrontation more dangerous for the officer.
Sure. A more intense reaction from the officer is bound to result in a more intense reaction from a suspect, but rational citizens should comply all the more quickly.
Charging an officer, trying to disarm him or resisting attempts to restrain him is generally futile and will result in more criminal charges on top of likely injuries. In some cases it will end in suicide by cop.

 

[westwall]

I am highly suspicious of anything like MJ put out based on the very poor quality of information that exists dealing with law enforcement shootings. There simply is not that much info out there. This news editor here in Reno has begun to address that issue with his organization.


Maps Fatal Encounters

 

[Ernie S.]

When one looks at the "Link", one finds that resisting arrest occurs in about 3% of cases for Blacks and a bit under 2% for whites wrt drugs, and about 2% and 1% respectively for theft. What's the point of even looking at these? WRT "Disorderly Conduct" the figures are more significant but still about 12% and 6% resp.

So why is that? Nothing in the article gives any "reasons" apart from racist cops. That seems pretty stupid as there are dozens of factors that may well be at play one being a cultural attitude towards police.

Greg

It's a 2:1 ratio for all crimes mentioned. Racist cops... maybe 5% of the time, at most. Not enough to explain so many blacks dying in confrontations with police.
I read somewhere that 76% of offenders killed by black cops are black. Explain THAT.

 

[FA_Q2]

I am highly suspicious of anything like MJ put out based on the very poor quality of information that exists dealing with law enforcement shootings. There simply is not that much info out there. This news editor here in Reno has begun to address that issue with his organization.


Maps Fatal Encounters

This is a serious problem.

I don't like the fact that the government keeps statistics on virtually everything except how often their own agents kill innocent people. That should be an obvious and easy to find fact yet it dies not exist.