We have video everywhere. Collect the video all around the area that shows the person who was driving the car. Radio ahead to cars in the direction he is going. Might he stop and jump out and run? Yes. Collect all the video sources in the area.
No one said the police can't chase them. The argument is they need to do it in smarter way that does not risk the lives of innocent people.
We have video everywhere. Collect the video all around the area that shows the person who was driving the car. Radio ahead to cars in the direction he is going. Might he stop and jump out and run? Yes. Collect all the video sources in the area.
What is the occurrence of fatal accidents in high speed chases vs. the further crimes committed by people allowed to flee, so of those crimes being homicides?
The ratio was so high for St. Ann Missouri (note. I originally said Michigan. That was a mistake I apologize for.) that the Insurance Company essentially forced them to abandon high speed pursuits.
There was a crash with serious damage about every two weeks. Those included serious injuries and fatalities.
That was one police department.
The insurance premiums were set to increase so much the Chief of police had a choice. Fire 1/4 of his cops, or change the policy.
But it is more than the civilians who are injured and killed. Last year more than 40 cops died in automobile and motorcycle accidents. In and out of pursuits.
How many were injured? How many were maimed and unable to return to the job? How many cops did we lose to accidents? I don’t think anyone knows. But we know that more than 40 died.
If we include the struck by vehicle numbers, more cops died from automobile related causes than gunfire.
So we know that vehicles are dangerous. We don’t know how many people died in automobile accidents in 2022, but for 2021 it was 48,000.
How many of those were pursuits we will probably never know.
Chicago put some restrictions in place because the police were unable to do so in a safe manner. They would just shoot away...................killing a 13 year old.
The ratio was so high for St. Ann Missouri (note. I originally said Michigan. That was a mistake I apologize for.) that the Insurance Company essentially forced them to abandon high speed pursuits.
There was a crash with serious damage about every two weeks. Those included serious injuries and fatalities.
That was one police department.
The insurance premiums were set to increase so much the Chief of police had a choice. Fire 1/4 of his cops, or change the policy.
But it is more than the civilians who are injured and killed. Last year more than 40 cops died in automobile and motorcycle accidents. In and out of pursuits.
How many were injured? How many were maimed and unable to return to the job? How many cops did we lose to accidents? I don’t think anyone knows. But we know that more than 40 died.
If we include the struck by vehicle numbers, more cops died from automobile related causes than gunfire.
So we know that vehicles are dangerous. We don’t know how many people died in automobile accidents in 2022, but for 2021 it was 48,000.
How many of those were pursuits we will probably never know.
And saying "no pursuits, ever" will result in more criminals on the street, able to do more damage, and less successful prosecutions resulting in said criminals continuing their criminality.
The only reason pursuit issues are noticed is they are up front, and done by the authority responsible for catching and arresting criminals. So you ban pursuits, feel good about yourself, and some poor bastard dies out of sight out of mind, killed by a guy that could have been put away, but wasn't because the cops had to let him go.
Chicago put some restrictions in place because the police were unable to do so in a safe manner. They would just shoot away...................killing a 13 year old.
It's far better today. Driving 110 on city streets is stupid no matter who is doing it.
You say they won't catch him. I say we saw it here. The cop who killed the girls didn't catch him. Cops who were called on the radio ahead of the criminal did. He can't out run the radio.
You say they won't catch him. I say we saw it here. The cop who killed the girls didn't catch him. Cops who were called on the radio ahead of the criminal did. He can't out run the radio.
Eight Los Angeles police officers who collectively fired 107 shots at two women delivering newspapers in a truck that police had mistaken for one belonging to renegade ex-cop Christopher Dorner will not face criminal charges.
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Most often the cops miss their target. A human being, and you want them to shoot out tires? They missed the truck a lot in the story above. The whole truck was missed.
As for the idea of a computer Governor to either limit the speed or shut down the car. It wouldn’t be ten minutes before someone was removing the thing.
I remember a situation about twenty years ago. When music copying and sharing was a bigger deal. Sony spent millions developing a technology to thwart people who rip the music from a CD. This was defeated by a magic marker.
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How long before every other backyard mechanic was doing it to lift the limiter? A week? Or would it take a full month? Either way it wouldn’t be long would it?
Finally. Your manufacturer hotline. So I steal a license plate from a similar car. You the cop call it in and Toyota shuts down the car. I continue fleeing because all you did was ruin the day of some Mother who has two girls screaming about needing to get to the soccer game.
Any other brilliant ideas? Fast and Furious style harpoons that fry the cars electronics?
100% pure, unadulterated horseshit. The only one responsible for these deaths is the driver of the car that killed these girls. But of course the State is going to put it on the fleeing suspect. Because rarely ever does the State, or it's employees take responsibility, for the negative outcomes of their own decisions.
What is the occurrence of fatal accidents in high speed chases vs. the further crimes committed by people allowed to flee, so of those crimes being homicides?
This wasn't a homicide, it was a property crime. Often times even when a suspect successfully flees, and eludes they ultimately end up caught. It's called investigation.