Cooking the unemployment numbers???

[Vel]

Wrong. MSNBC actually put someone on who explained how the numbers add up.

Then tell us. You know it's not possible. The Obama administration is lying AND, they think people are so stupid that they will believe them. Tell us how those numbers add up, if you can.

It's easily possible because they revised July and August UPWARDS. More jobs created in those months than was previously estimated.

Is that so hard to understand?

Are you kidding? Even IF the upward revision of July and August is accurate, ( which is doubtful ) that's an increase of 80,000 not the 800,000 jobs it would have taken to move those numbers that amount. Americans are not that stupid.

 

[beretta304]

The answer lies in the way the monthly job figures are compiled, which often leads to confusion. The change in payrolls is derived from a survey of business establishments that the Labor Department conducts. The unemployment rate comes from a separate survey of households carried out by the Census Bureau. In theory, the two sets of figures should match up, but all too often they don’t, and this was one of those occasions. The household survey showed the number of people in work shooting up by 873,000, and it was this leap in employment that pushed down the unemployment rate.


A little "fugazzy" if you ask me.


Read more Obama, the Job Figures, and the Conspiracy Theorists : The New Yorker

 

[swizzlee]

Even Morning Joe thinks so........

Morning Joe

It's all fun and games until EVERYTHING starts going to sh*t. Then people start to wake up.

It's going to shit in California, if it goes to shit anymore, Romney may just take the popular vote nationwide and thus take California.

It's also going to shit in IL

And people are a helluva lot more awake than our non-leader knows

 

[pinqy]

Even Morning Joe thinks so........

Morning Joe

There are no polical appointments in the BLS. The economist working there have worked through previous administrations.

There is one...the Commisioner. But that position has been vacant since January. Obama has nominated a replacement but she won't be confirmed until February...IF Obama wins.

 

[buckeye45_73]

tea party proof of anything = "he's black and you know how they are..."

Projection.....democrats do that better than anyone

 

[swizzlee]

Even Morning Joe thinks so........

Morning Joe

My analysis -

common sense, a smattering of education, and perception wins!

 

[HUGGY]

It's very easy for obama to stand there unopposed and unchallenged and say that Romney is a liar. Romney called obama a liar to his face. obama's response was to hang his head. obama could have bested any of the "guilty dog" you tube videos.

Ya... Calling our president a liar on national television is so "presidential". I would have enjoyed Obama walking over to Mittens and knocking his lying punk bully ass back into last week but THAT would have NOT been presidential.

 

[beretta304]

It's very easy for obama to stand there unopposed and unchallenged and say that Romney is a liar. Romney called obama a liar to his face. obama's response was to hang his head. obama could have bested any of the "guilty dog" you tube videos.

Ya... Calling our president a liar on national television is so "presidential". I would have enjoyed Obama walking over to Mittens and knocking his lying punk bully ass back into last week but THAT would have NOT been presidential.

Considering how small, weak and puny he looked...Romney likely would have kicked his ass on that matter as well.

 

[Vel]

It's very easy for obama to stand there unopposed and unchallenged and say that Romney is a liar. Romney called obama a liar to his face. obama's response was to hang his head. obama could have bested any of the "guilty dog" you tube videos.

Ya... Calling our president a liar on national television is so "presidential". I would have enjoyed Obama walking over to Mittens and knocking his lying punk bully ass back into last week but THAT would have NOT been presidential.

Huggy, If the president doesn't want to be publicly called out as a liar, he should quit lying. It's pretty simple. I don't know when the public forgot that we don't elect kings. Obama seems to think that he can use the protection of the office as cover to lie at will. He can't.

 

[PredFan]

According to the BLS, there are 155,000,000 people in the Civilian Labor Force. A drop from 8.1% to 7.8% is 0.003 x 155 million or 465 thousand hired people. The 200k jobs that the BLS now says were created last month falls short of half that number. I call shenanigans.

 

[PredFan]

It's very easy for obama to stand there unopposed and unchallenged and say that Romney is a liar. Romney called obama a liar to his face. obama's response was to hang his head. obama could have bested any of the "guilty dog" you tube videos.

Ya... Calling our president a liar on national television is so "presidential". I would have enjoyed Obama walking over to Mittens and knocking his lying punk bully ass back into last week but THAT would have NOT been presidential.

Obama is a weakling liberal. He couldn't punch a time clock let alone an actual man.

 

[Vel]

Wrong. MSNBC actually put someone on who explained how the numbers add up.

Then tell us. You know it's not possible. The Obama administration is lying AND, they think people are so stupid that they will believe them. Tell us how those numbers add up, if you can.

It's easily possible because they revised July and August UPWARDS. More jobs created in those months than was previously estimated.

Is that so hard to understand?

Try this article. It might open your eyes.
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Why Today’s BLS Jobs Numbers Make No Sense
By: Daniel Horowitz (Diary) | October 5th, 2012 at 11:45 AM

To begin with, we must recognize that we are coasting along near the bottom of the employment nadir – a steep trench that was created by the 2008-2009 recession. Unlike every other recession, including the one in the early 80s, this one was not followed by a steep climb out of the trench. We’re not even creating enough jobs per month to keep up with the population growth, much less recover the millions of jobs lost in the recession.

Yet, despite the fact that we’ve added less than 150k jobs during most months of the recovery, and less than 100k during many of them, the U3 rate has steadily declined. This all made sense because there was an unprecedented shrinkage of the labor force – a symptom of a permanently lethargic economy. Paradoxically, this led to a steady decline in the unemployment rate as the universe of the job market shrunk. It’s not that the BLS was purposely making Obama look better. You just needed to look beyond the U3 number to understand how the unemployment rate dropped.

This brings us to the September jobs report. According to the establishment survey, only 114k non-farm payroll jobs were added last month. That’s well below the 206k increase in the working-age population, according to the household survey. But once again, the U3 rate dropped, this time down to 7.8%. As always, I expected this to be the result of a dramatic shrinkage in labor force participation. Yet, shockingly enough, the labor force actually grew by 418K in September, even more than it shrunk the previous month.

So the labor force shrinks during a month of tepid job growth, and the U3 declines. Now the labor force grows during a month of tepid job growth, yet the U3 rate….still declines!

Why Today’s BLS Jobs Numbers Make No Sense | RedState

 

[PredFan]

Republicans are in a panic.

Sorry dude the only ones panicking are the ones asking people to believe UE al of the sudden dropped to 7.8% this month.

Well, there IS such a thing as Seasonal Hiring.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's very easy for obama to stand there unopposed and unchallenged and say that Romney is a liar. Romney called obama a liar to his face. obama's response was to hang his head. obama could have bested any of the "guilty dog" you tube videos.

Ya... Calling our president a liar on national television is so "presidential". I would have enjoyed Obama walking over to Mittens and knocking his lying punk bully ass back into last week but THAT would have NOT been presidential.

What happened? Romney called obama a liar on national television and obama hung his head and stared at the floor just like any guilty teenager caught with a doobie in his pocket. I would have cheered had obama acted like a black thug.

But, he is likely going to use the thug for the second debate when Romney points out what a massive failure obama's foreign policy is and how obama LIED when he said that the attack on the Libyan consultate office was because of a video that no one ever saw.

obama should just stop lying. Then he won't have it to worry about.

 

[PredFan]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

 

[Dutch]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

The economists in that are in the BLS are not pOlitical appointees and have worked there with previous administrations. You really think that if Obama was telling them to fudge the numbers somebody would have come out by now?

 

[beretta304]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

The economists in that are in the BLS are not pOlitical appointees and have worked there with previous administrations. You really think that if Obama was telling them to fudge the numbers somebody would have come out by now?

Why not? Fast and Furious? Anyone rat on Holder? Lots of folks work there.

 

[Meister]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

The economists in that are in the BLS are not pOlitical appointees and have worked there with previous administrations. You really think that if Obama was telling them to fudge the numbers somebody would have come out by now?

Actually, if you go back and look at the weekly numbers, they all have been revised downward the week after. Having said that......the numbers are reported and the MSM then prints those numbers....the next week the actual numbers are pretty much buried in a report. So....who knows what is going on? I just find it strange that the left does no critical thinking on this, and because it's their party of choice will accept anything positive....truth or not.

 

[Vel]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

The economists in that are in the BLS are not pOlitical appointees and have worked there with previous administrations. You really think that if Obama was telling them to fudge the numbers somebody would have come out by now?

Hilda Solis, an Obama appointee is the current boss. Besides, they know better than anyone if they open their mouths and get themselves fired, no one else is hiring.

 

[Dutch]

The unemployment numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The BLS is under the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor is run by the Secretary of Labor....an Obama Cabinet Appointee.

'nuff said right there.

The economists in that are in the BLS are not pOlitical appointees and have worked there with previous administrations. You really think that if Obama was telling them to fudge the numbers somebody would have come out by now?

Hilda Solis, an Obama appointee is the current boss. Besides, they know better than anyone if they open their mouths and get themselves fired, no one else is hiring.

You mean someone in the BLS wouldn't become a whistleblower and become a hero to almost half the population and become a celebrity overnight. He or she would not tell just to keep their job? Riiiight ........that sounds plausible.