Those "brightest minds" don't say god did the big bang. They say they don't know what caused the big bang.
No one said they did. I said that science says that the Universe originated from a great explosion of matter and that THAT is what God said, through the scriptures, four thousand years ago.
Funny that use to be my theory that god created the big bang. When I was a theist I use to argue with theists that hated science.
There are no theists that hate science. Such is a myth. There are however, theists who hate "SCIENCE!", which unlike science, subjectively advances cherry picked tidbits of data, as a deceitful means to fraudulently influence the ignorant.
I said god and the big bang could both exist.
You were less foolish then, as the two are not mutually exclusive. There is no point in science which competes with the potential for God's existence. God is objective truth and science is the disciplined study of the universe, which is exercised toward the pursuit of truth.
Today I see no evidence of god ...
I expect that it is true that you see no evidence of God. As your efforts are spent in rationalizing away all traces of such evidence.
Such is the nature of evil.
What a typical arrogant ignorant christian view. One other reason I was turned off to christianity. Like Ghandi said, "this jesus guy sounded like a great guy, but christians not so much".
You dare say my side is being "fraudul and ignorant." when this is the facts about your god or any god.
There is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the Bible (or Koran or Old Testament or Mormon or Jehova books too) concerning the existence of a god. Any evidence proposed by theists to support their various historical and supernatural claims are non-existent at best, manufactured at worst.
The Bible is not self-authenticating; it is simply one of many religious texts. Like those other texts, it itself constitutes no evidence for the existence of a god. Its florid prose and fanciful content do not legitimize it nor distinguish it from other ancient works of literature.
The Bible is historically inaccurate,factually incorrect, inconsistent and contradictory. It was artificially constructed by a group of men in antiquity and is poorly translated, heavily altered and selectively interpreted. Entire sections of the text have been redacted over time.
There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus existence or the Bibles account of his life; no artefacts, dwellings, works of carpentry, self-written manuscripts, court records, eyewitness testimony, official diaries, birth records, reflections on his significance or written disputes about his teachings. Nothing survives from the time in which he is said to have lived.
All historical references to Jesus derive from hearsay accounts written decades or centuries after his supposed death. These historical references generally refer to early Christians rather than a historical Jesus and, in some cases, directly contradict the Gospels or were deliberately manufactured.
The Gospels themselves contradict one-another on many key events and were constructed by unknown authors up to a century after the events they describe are said to have occurred. They are not eyewitness accounts. The New Testament, as a whole, contains many internal inconsistencies as a result of its piecemeal construction and is factually incorrect on several historical claims, such as the early existence of Nazareth, the reign of Herod and the Roman census. Like the Old Testament, it too has had entire books and sections redacted.
The Biblical account of Jesus has striking similarities with other mythologies and texts and many of his supposed teachings existed prior to his time. It is likely the character was either partly or entirely invented by competing first century messianic cults from an amalgamation of Greco-Roman, Egyptian and Judeo-Apocalyptic myths and prophecies.
Even if Jesus existence could be established, this would in no way validate Christian theology or any element of the story portrayed in the Bible, such as the performance of miracles or the resurrection. Simply because it is conceivable a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived circa 30 AD, had followers and was executed, does not imply the son of a god walked the Earth at that time.
The motivation for belief in a divine, salvational Jesus breaks down when you accept evolution:
Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrineit destroys the foundation of the gospel. - Ken Ham
Why there is no god
