No, I'm not wrong. I said you did do what you said, but if you read through the raw data, what I said was clearly true. The majority of the posts were nested, so it counted one statement multiple times. And there is no doubt that many of your arguments were slams on Trump and "Trumpsters" and not the left. You can't deny those, Skippy
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Conservatives who falsely insist that Democrats support socialism help Democrats - a lot!
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No, I'm not wrong. I said you did do what you said, but if you read through the raw data, what I said was clearly true. The majority of the posts were nested, so it counted one statement multiple times. And there is no doubt that many of your arguments were slams on Trump and "Trumpsters" and not the left. You can't deny those, Skippy
task0778
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Conservatives bark socialism while liberals bark racism.
I would posit that the democrats are far more socialist than the Repubs are racist.
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We don't want to be shipped off in cattle cars by the new Reich Herr Himmler.Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
For several reasons.
They themselves are terrified of socialism and communism.
In a way demonize Democrats to get stupid people to hate Democrats, they use words they believe are the most scariest words to scare people into hating Democrats.
Words like socialism, communism, fascist and a long list of others.
It all it does is show intelligent people just how down right stupid and pathetic the conservatives are.
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Trump broke him.Oh, I love it. Just a few of my posts below, with sources.Funny, but I've pointed that out hundreds of times. That has somehow been pushed out of your memory by your TDS.The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
Democrats: You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! ...
Mac: Wasup conservatives, you're kind of overusing that word socialism ...
Indeed, the two ends of the spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors. I've pointed that out hundreds of times, too.
I wonder why you folks are so eager to act just like those you loathe.
I've never once seen you object to Democrats saying You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! You're a racist! ...
Maybe your tongue in Democrat's ears muffled your voice
I wouldn't expect an apology or retraction from someone like you, by the way:
Post 702: Democrats hate Carson because he is black
I know how important the PC game is to you folks, and I know how cranky you get when it's pointed out.
I always enjoy it when a Regressive Leftist assumes I'm a conservative because I'm anti-PC.
Fortunately, there are many people who lean left (like me) who have had enough of this, such as:
Post 9: What is Racism?
- The political correctness cops are going to ruin the progressive cause
- Bill Maher Rails Against Crazy Political Correctness From Liberals Tells Media Matters to Shut The F ck Up Video RealClearPolitics
- Jerry Seinfeld says political correctness is hurting comedy - CBS News
- Don Lemon weighs in on PC culture Liberals are the most easily offended and the least tolerant - Salon.com
- Not a Very P.C. Thing to Say -- NYMag
- Liberal Turley against political correctness in News Forum
- Are Liberals Becoming Too Sensitive and Politically Correct
- Jim Webb says Democratic Party has lost its way - The Washington Post
- John Stuart Mill s Argument Against Political...
- Dem Blames Political Correctness for Fort Hood Workplace Violence Controversy - ABC News
- Is the New Political Correctness Already Dying -- NYMag
- I don t know what to do you guys Fredrik deBoer
- http://www.forwardprogressives.com/liberals-becoming-sensitive-politically-correct/
- http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid
- http://www.socialmemorycomplex.net/leftlibertarian/2012/06/12/a-leftist-critique-of-political-correctness/
- My view: Political correctness should not inhibit free speech
- http://scienceblogs.com/webeasties/2013/05/21/science-racism-and-political-correctness/
- http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/threads/liberal-columnist-leonard-pitts-asks-if-weve-overdone-political-correctness.130665/
- #CancelColbert and the Return of the Anti-Liberal Left
- REED: When liberals become illiberal
- PC Police Out Of Control In Possibly The Most Absurd Story I've Ever Come Across
- “Political Correctness” | The Progressive Professor
- How Liberals Ruined College
- Rushdie warns of new dangers to free speech in West
Depends on who you ask. For most people, racism is the opinion that another ethnicity is somehow inferior to you.
For the Regressive Left/PC Police, it is any utterance or action that comes within 500 miles of having anything to do with race whatsoever, if they can leverage it to put that person on the defensive by screaming RACIST! and control the conversation.
Post 243: What evidence is there that Steve Bannon is a racist?
The Regressive Left has bestowed upon itself the exclusive right to determine what is and what is not "racist". They don't need proof. They don't need examples. They just use the word when they want to put someone on the defensive. Doesn't work any more. They blew it. They jumped the shark. They over-used it.
Post 121: "Fighting racism is a Christian Value "
Screaming RACIST, whether your target has come within 500 of miles of racism or not, is guaranteed to (a) put your target on the defensive, and (b) avoid open and honest conversation. It solves nothing. It improves nothing. It heals nothing. It only makes things worse. It exacerbates. RACIST. RACIST. RACIST.
The Regressives know this, they know they've criminally diluted a terribly important word, but they're addicted to the behavior. They're not interested in healing or improving things. And it obviously played a part in the national pushback of 2016. Enough people became sick of this ploy, including many honest liberals.
Post 97: The Media & Establishment Witch Hunt Of Donald Trump Trying To Brand Him A Racist
For the Regressives, calling someone a "racist" is not an indication that they have specific evidence that the target is actually a racist. It simply means they have identified an opportunity to call that person a racist, because that person came within about 500 miles of the topic of race. The Regressives have been more than happy to dilute a terribly important word into irrelevance in their quest for ideological advantage.
Want more? There's a shitload!!! Go swimming in it: Search results for query: regressive racism
You are completely out of your league, Trumpster. Too bad.
So reading through the search for "reggressive left" to get the real data instead of the cherry picked data,
1) The majority of the 17 page results were nested posts, which greatly inflated the number of times you actually objected
2) The rest were largely attacks on Trump and "Trumpsters"
3) There were legitimate results, some of which you picked out and highlighted.
So I agree that you did do it, but your claim of how frequently and that it was directed at the left are exaggerated
Don't fall into the trap of proclaiming that socialism is a bad word.Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
What it really is is socially responsible government in the world's leading democracies, that's wrongly termed as 'socialism' by most Americans.
Why do conservatives try to make it out to be socialism?
Simply because they have been brainwashed into supporting the very wealthy's agenda of income inequality.
Call it communism and that works even better! fkng losers who have been duped into believing they're FREE!
toobfreak
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Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism
Why do conservatives do this?
Idiot. Democrats are ALL ABOUT globalism (they spent four years HATING Trump's pro-America First stance worried whether other countries still liked us) and globalism IS socialism.
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) - Working towards a better future for all.
Working towards a better future for all.
www.dsausa.org
MinTrut
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Projection?You are hopelessly confused.Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
Democrats despise socialists and socialism.
MinTrut
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Hi Looneybin!What is false about it Looneybin?Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
Why do you think so-called conservatives are working so hard to help the Democrats by falsely labeling them socialists?
Is RINOism that rampant?
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For all the meaning these accusations have, they might as well be calling Dems "poopyheads" and sane people realize thisBeyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
For several reasons.
They themselves are terrified of socialism and communism.
In a way demonize Democrats to get stupid people to hate Democrats, they use words they believe are the most scariest words to scare people into hating Democrats.
Words like socialism, communism, fascist and a long list of others.
It all it does is show intelligent people just how down right stupid and pathetic the conservatives are.
MinTrut
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It's almost a parody; Archie Bunker stuff...The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
Possibly.
Yes, but this false advertising also helps the Democrats enormously, so why do they do it? Perhaps...
Democrats that finally admitted they are Socialists, more aptly named Progressive Socialists have put an iron lock on the direction of the nation since Kennedy was assassinated. Republicans have only determined the speed of it.The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
I think it's closest to being Archie Bunker stuff. Archie was incurious, mal-informed, intellectually lazy, and paranoid. Everybody else was a "commie".It's almost a parody; Archie Bunker stuff...The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
Possibly.
Yes, but this false advertising also helps the Democrats enormously, so why do they do it? Perhaps...
I suppose those in the public eye who push this stuff may have a more sinister agenda, but I think that's just the advancement of their own careers, at any cost.
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Cool, when are they going to start ejecting all of the socialists from their ranks? When are they going to stop the fountain of socialist proposals that spring from their pens?Projection?You are hopelessly confused.Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
Democrats despise socialists and socialism.
If Democrats aren’t socialists then they deserve Academy Awards for acting like socialists.
Since I don't know what your particular definition of socialism is, I can't comment.Democrats that finally admitted they are Socialists, more aptly named Progressive Socialists have put an iron lock on the direction of the nation since Kennedy was assassinated. Republicans have only determined the speed of it.The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
I'm aware of no actual socialists (by its definition) leading the Democratic Party, so it's difficult to take the accusation seriously.
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I guess you missed the fact that Democrat Leadership has time and again expressed their desire to implement a government take over of the entire health insurance industry? perhaps that doesn’t meet your definition of socialism? not to mention all the other incremental government take overs of private enterprise that the Democrats have proposed and continue to propose, incremental socialism is still SOCIALISM.Since I don't know what your particular definition of socialism is, I can't comment.Democrats that finally admitted they are Socialists, more aptly named Progressive Socialists have put an iron lock on the direction of the nation since Kennedy was assassinated. Republicans have only determined the speed of it.The Trumpsters have hopelessly overused and diluted the word now, to the point where it is essentially meaningless.
All they've managed to do is keep it in everyone's faces and make people more and more interested in finding out more.
They only scare each other, no one else. Any REAL socialists should be sending these people Thank You cards.
I'm aware of no actual socialists (by its definition) leading the Democratic Party, it's difficult to take the accusation seriously.
What’s it going to take for you to recognize it? The Democrats nominating Karl Marx as their Presidential Candidate?
At least politicians like Bernie Sanders-I and AOC-D have the honesty to admit what their ideology is, one can respect that, for the rest of the socialists in cheap clothing-D, it’s a testament to their bullshitting ability that they can hide so brazenly in plain sight and fool some of the people all of the time.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!Projection?You are hopelessly confused.Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
Democrats despise socialists and socialism.
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Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
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The ACA is a REPUBLICAN idea first put forward by none other than Newt Gingrich and implemented in Mass by Romney when he was Gov.
Real socialists huh?
Is Social Security and Medicare , "socialism"?
Good luck taking that away from all those red state Republican "socialist" seniors
Real socialists huh?
Is Social Security and Medicare , "socialism"?
Good luck taking that away from all those red state Republican "socialist" seniors
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Wildling
Your argument amounts to nothing more than "The Republicans are just as much of a bunch of socialists as the Democrats are" which, while true, doesn't change the fact that Democrat Party agenda is in general a socialist agenda and has been for quite some time.The ACA is a REPUBLICAN idea first put forward by none other than Newt Gingrich and implemented in Mass by Romney when he was Gov.
Real socialists huh?
Is Social Security and Medicare , "socialism"?
Good luck taking that away from all those red state Republican "socialist" seniors
It's way past time that they just be candid about it so we can at least have a shot at an intellectually honest debate regarding whether socialism is the cure to what ails us.
Beyond the fact that it's entirely false, conservatives who spread the lie that Democrats in any way support socialism help Democrats win elections and hold power.
Why do conservatives do this?
Why would they work so hard to spread a lie which helps the very people they claim to hate?
Democrats DESPISE socialists and socialist policies, but the majority of Americans WANT things like socialized medicine.
Conservatives only help Democrats by claiming that Democrats support policies that Democrats despise.
Why?
.What is obvious to anyone with over a double digit IQ, is that socialism does not work, is a failure that produces poverty, not prosperity….yet it is taking over the Democrat Party.
Hooray!
The Democrats are raising to the level of a catechism that what is missing from America is the sense of redistributive social justice, and income equality.
And, what the dopes who vote for this miss, or refuse to admit, is that it requires the complete take-over of the economy by big government.
Socialism can be boiled down to “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” It can only be assured by centralization and nationalization of all resources and industries.
Sound familiar? If you vote Democrat, you vote for this.
Ben Shapiro is all over this....
Ben Shapiro On The False Claims of the Socialist Democratic Party
Whom The Gods Would Destroy they first make mad. Soooo….the Democrat Party is racing full bore to, once again, being the Socialist Party….and destroying itself.
"MARXISTS AND EXTREME RADICALS SEEK TO TAKE OVER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
- DNC chairman Tom Perez said Democratic Socialists of America member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez “represents the future of our party.”
- DSA chapter chairs have agreed that “communism is good.”
- One DSA caucus calls its members “revolutionary Marxists.”
".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.
“It is far more common to believe that [Nazi socialism] represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed.
The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.” Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman
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