Conservatives, the fight is not over!

[Boss]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

 

[Vigilante]

• Sheldon Adelson Says He Will Support Donald Trump
  NY Times ^ | 5/5/2016 | Thomas Kaplan and Maggie Haberman
  The casino magnate Sheldon G. Adelson said on Thursday night that he would support Donald J. Trump now that he has become the Republican Party’s presumptive nominee. “Yes, I’m a Republican, he’s a Republican,” Mr. Adelson said in a brief interview. “He’s our nominee. Whoever the nominee would turn out to be, any one of the 17 — he was one of the 17. He won fair and square.”

 

[S.J.]

If Trump had not been in the race, Cruz still would not have gotten the nomination. Most likely it would have been Jeb Bush.

 

[emilynghiem]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[sonic]

I don't think this is a kick in the pants, I think it's a changing of the guard. The GOP electorate is old, and quite frankly dying off, being replaced by a shiny object crowd of regressives and isolationists who sew the seeds of fear at every turn. Blame the Right Wing media for a lot of this.
The GOP needs to rebuild from the ground up and take a hard line against the blithering idiot talking heads that damage the brand, and the whack jobs like Cruz, Santorum, King, Bachman, Palin, and the myriad other dumbasses that speak before they think, making headlines that make the GOP look like a bunch of unhinged escapees from an asylum. They also have to lay off the fake scandals and focus that time, money, and energy on real ideas instead of rehashing the same old disproven theories.
Harsh? Yeah, but that's what it's going to take to rebuild the brand.

 

[Boss]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

If Trump had not been in the race, Cruz still would not have gotten the nomination. Most likely it would have been Jeb Bush.

Thank God for Trump.

 

[OnePercenter]

I don't think this is a kick in the pants, I think it's a changing of the guard. The GOP electorate is old, and quite frankly dying off, being replaced by a shiny object crowd of regressives and isolationists who sew the seeds of fear at every turn. Blame the Right Wing media for a lot of this.
The GOP needs to rebuild from the ground up and take a hard line against the blithering idiot talking heads that damage the brand, and the whack jobs like Cruz, Santorum, King, Bachman, Palin, and the myriad other dumbasses that speak before they think, making headlines that make the GOP look like a bunch of unhinged escapees from an asylum. They also have to lay off the fake scandals and focus that time, money, and energy on real ideas instead of rehashing the same old disproven theories.
Harsh? Yeah, but that's what it's going to take to rebuild the brand.

The GOP isn't damaged. The wealthy are doing very well.

 

[Kosh]

I don't think this is a kick in the pants, I think it's a changing of the guard. The GOP electorate is old, and quite frankly dying off, being replaced by a shiny object crowd of regressives and isolationists who sew the seeds of fear at every turn. Blame the Right Wing media for a lot of this.
The GOP needs to rebuild from the ground up and take a hard line against the blithering idiot talking heads that damage the brand, and the whack jobs like Cruz, Santorum, King, Bachman, Palin, and the myriad other dumbasses that speak before they think, making headlines that make the GOP look like a bunch of unhinged escapees from an asylum. They also have to lay off the fake scandals and focus that time, money, and energy on real ideas instead of rehashing the same old disproven theories.
Harsh? Yeah, but that's what it's going to take to rebuild the brand.

The GOP isn't damaged. The wealthy are doing very well.

Yes George Soros and Warren Buffet are doing very well, but they are hardly supporting the GOP.

Silly far left drone

 

[emilynghiem]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

I'm a Constitutionalist also. So do you want to call for a conference? An agreement to
remove programs from govt that belong to states people and parties? And only leave
the essential programs under federal govt that all people AGREE belong on that level?

I'm all for that also. Boss do you want to call for reps from all states to meet and form this agreement?
To return to enforcing unified standards on what is given to federal govt under the Constitution.
Lots of talk of this, but nothing agreed upon yet. Shall we do it?

Or would you prefer the Grand Jury method of investigating charges of abuses
and issuing corrections that way? would you use the system of calling for
a convention, a conference, or a grand jury type assembly to address grievances?

What would you see as the best procedure as a Constitutionalist
trying to get govt back on track?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I don't think this is a kick in the pants, I think it's a changing of the guard. The GOP electorate is old, and quite frankly dying off, being replaced by a shiny object crowd of regressives and isolationists who sew the seeds of fear at every turn. Blame the Right Wing media for a lot of this.
The GOP needs to rebuild from the ground up and take a hard line against the blithering idiot talking heads that damage the brand, and the whack jobs like Cruz, Santorum, King, Bachman, Palin, and the myriad other dumbasses that speak before they think, making headlines that make the GOP look like a bunch of unhinged escapees from an asylum. They also have to lay off the fake scandals and focus that time, money, and energy on real ideas instead of rehashing the same old disproven theories.
Harsh? Yeah, but that's what it's going to take to rebuild the brand.

All conservatives need to do is become conservatives again, and reject the social right, reactionary libertarians, and TPM nitwits who misappropriated conservatism and the GOP.

 

[Boss]

I'm a Constitutionalist also. So do you want to call for a conference? An agreement to
remove programs from govt that belong to states people and parties? And only leave
the essential programs under federal govt that all people AGREE belong on that level?

I'm all for that also. Boss do you want to call for reps from all states to meet and form this agreement?
To return to enforcing unified standards on what is given to federal govt under the Constitution.
Lots of talk of this, but nothing agreed upon yet. Shall we do it?

Or would you prefer the Grand Jury method of investigating charges of abuses
and issuing corrections that way? would you use the system of calling for
a convention, a conference, or a grand jury type assembly to address grievances?

What would you see as the best procedure as a Constitutionalist
trying to get govt back on track?

http://www.marklevinshow.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/301/2015/04/LibertyAmendmentsCh1.pdf

Read this and tell me what you think?

 

[Alystyr]

The wealthy are doing very well.

That is a non-issue.
The wealthy do "very well" regardless of who's in power. Political climate only affects how they manage that wealth.
There's no policy that will change that short of stripping them of everything - investments, real estate, bank accounts, and so on. Even that's not a certainty, since they could potentially rebuild using social connections.

 

[Asclepias]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Have no fear Boss. Even as I type this Trump is devising a scheme to trick the rest of the GOP like he did to the low hanging fruit racists that proliferate in your GOP party. I hate to be the one to say I told you so but....I did tell you so. Before he can bamboozle the rest of the GOP there are some questions that have yet to be answered. Will the GOP toss Trump out on his ass thereby splitting the party? Will the GOP rally behind Trump effectively ensuring a crushing and demoralizing loss to the Dem candidate in Nov that could dismantle the GOP forever? Will whites vote at a high % for Trump inverting the dynamic when they voted below 40% for Obama as a back lash to voting in a Black POTUS? I look forward to the months ahead to answer those remaining questions in this political season.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

Boss- I am also a conservative, and I believe the single biggest event that has negatively effected this country is the 17th amendment. It essential

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

Boss- I am also a conservative, and I believe the single biggest event that has negatively effected this country is the 17th amendment. It essential diverted state power to the federal government. Without addressing this issue, you are trying to fix a squeaky axle but ignoring the square wheels.

Instead, today's Republicans concern themselves with social issues like abortion (settled issue) while catering to the religious right who demonize the LGBTQ community. Meanwhile republican congressional leaders let BO run over them with executive orders.

What is worth saving about the Republican Party?

 

[emilynghiem]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

Boss- I am also a conservative, and I believe the single biggest event that has negatively effected this country is the 17th amendment. It essential

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

Dear Boss
If conservatives are going to live up to the principle that we should develop our own programs by free enterprise
and not depend on govt, then now is the time to demonstrate that.

If you are ready, I'm asking to form teams in every city and state that can organize around
either their local political party leadership, and/or academic institutions willing to take this on as a feasibility study,
and start implementing govt and social program reforms OURSELVES by investing in
our local businesses, schools, charities, parties, churches district by district and take back responsibility that has been overburdening govt.

I am asking for ministerial and business leaders, school officials or whoever can help manage teams.

let's do this. let's contact the Sanders and independent Greens and Libertarians,
the Trump supporters who also want jobs and control of the economy back with the working people.

Let's create jobs and facilities along the border that solve several problems at once,
with trafficking, with abuse of enslaved workers in sweatshops, with drug running and cults and gangs,
with the need for health care and jobs/training in social services to meet the demand of the populations in need,
and the need for prison and VA reform which could be the focus of development of medical facilities
based on effective treatment instead of the failure of our mental health and prisons based on
marketing big pharm products to the masses and pushing drugs as self-medication etc.

We can do better than this but the push has to come from the people to be sustainable.
Especially with conservatives whose whole party line is to teach the benefits of limited govt and not depending on Washington,
we need to support local leadership who preach and practice consistently.

Are you game? Are you ready to put out a call and get teams together?
Public radio and internet talk shows can help organize the masses ready for the work it's going to take.

We need ALL the candidates, from Sanders and Clinton, Carson Trump Cruz and the rest,
each to take on part of the puzzle in order to make all the pieces fit together where all the work gets done.

all levels of govt can be used for the maximum and proper capacity
and quit complicating things with programs best run by local groups per district.

Sorry, not even understanding what you want to do. I don't want to be on a team... I am not helping form some coalition to talk about ways we can all get along and solve problems. I am a Constitutional Conservative and I stand for core Constitutional Conservative principles and millions upon millions of Americans are with me.... we don't need organizing. I'm sorry that you spent so much time typing out all of that... really, I think you need to work on honing down your points to one or two main things you'd like to throw out there and not try to reinvent the wheel with every post you make. No offense, but you're just all over the board here.

Boss- I am also a conservative, and I believe the single biggest event that has negatively effected this country is the 17th amendment. It essential diverted state power to the federal government. Without addressing this issue, you are trying to fix a squeaky axle but ignoring the square wheels.

Instead, today's Republicans concern themselves with social issues like abortion (settled issue) while catering to the religious right who demonize the LGBTQ community. Meanwhile republican congressional leaders let BO run over them with executive orders.

What is worth saving about the Republican Party?

What's worth saving is the fact their membership uses the party to represent, elect and vote for people and platform/principles
they identify with collectively. There is also room for diversity if they build that into the system of representation and allow for it.

The Democratic Party also contradicts its own platforms and principles, and has its own divisions by political class, but the same thing is true: the structures of organizing
democratically elected leadership from the precinct level to state and national can also be used to manage resources under the very policies the members vote to support.

So why not use the party affiliations to organize those populations and their tax base under the
platforms they believe in, similar to letting Protestant and Catholic churches organize from local leadership and programs all the way to national and international levels.

We can use the party system to protect free choice of political beliefs equally as religious groups do for religious beliefs.

Why not?

 

[edthecynic]

Yes George Soros and Warren Buffet are doing very well, but they are hardly supporting the GOP.

Silly far left drone

Mindless Right-wing pawn!
SUCKER!!!!!!

Trump Picks Former Goldman Partner And Soros Employee As Finance Chairman | Zero Hedge

Trump Picks Former Goldman Partner And Soros Employee As Finance Chairman


Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/05/2016 17:35 -0400

In an oddly ironic twist, today Donald Trump announced that he has picked as chairman of his newly launched fundraising operation none other than a former employee of the bank he has repeatedly criticized in the past, and which he used as a foil to criticize Ted Cruz: Goldman Sachs.

Trump announced that heading up his own personal fundraising operation as national finance chairman will be Steven Mnuchin, a long-time business associate, chairman and CEO of the hedge fund Dune Capital. More importantly, however, he spent 17 years at Goldman Sachs where he was most recently a Partner, having built a fortung of $46 million before launching his own hedge fund.

While employed at Goldman, he purchased the remains of IndyMac Bank (now known as OneWest Bank), the Pasadena, California-based mortgage lender that collapsed in 2008. "Notoriously press-shy, the executive endured 2011 protests on the lawn of his Bel Air mansion by foreclosed homeowners angered at his lender's handling of soured mortgages."

As Zero Hedge readers are familiar, Trump often critized his main competitor Ted Cruz for his links to the bank because of loans used to finance Cruz’s Senate campaign, and because Heidi Cruz was a one-time employee of Goldman. "I know the guys at Goldman Sachs. They have total, total control over him. Just like they have total control over Hillary Clinton,” Trump said in one debate.

He had no qualms, however, in hiring one of the most prominent Goldman alums to raise money for him.

In addition to Goldman, Mnuchin also worked at Soros Fund Management, whose founder, George Soros, has funded many left-leaning causes. Where it gets even more bizarre is that Mnuchin has donated frequently to Democrats, including to Clinton and Barack Obama.

 

[OKTexas]

I am sure there are a lot of very disappointed conservatives out there who are just throwing up their hands today and saying... well, now what? Trump is the GOP nominee and once again, Conservative voters are left in the lurch without a candidate to support for president of the United States. Today, we're having to endure the sickening gloating of the Trump brigade as they parade around on their victory lap, taking their final pot shots and being the smug and arrogant assholes they've learned to be under their leader.

Fear not, the battle may be over but the war rages on. This isn't over by a damn sight and it won't be over regardless of who wins in November. Our focus must now shift to the congressional races where we stand to make great headway in the house and senate. Now more than ever, our strength and resolve becomes crucial. We can't abandon this fight... not now... not ever. We've suffered a setback, that's for sure. It hurts, I know. But we have to press on for the sake of our children, our grandchildren and this country we love so much.

Naturally, we want to know what went wrong. How did we end up on the short end of the stick in this primary which started with such high hopes? The answer is not simple but it can be summed up easily. The establishment GOP is getting their just rewards for abandoning conservative values. Us conservatives would have liked for that to have come in the form of a new conservative revival and for the first time in 40 years, a conservative choice for president. We came close but no one could have estimated the level of anger from those who are simply fed up with politics as usual in Washington. Too many were simply so fed up they weren't willing to give anyone a chance with a message other than "burn the place to the ground and shake it to the foundation because we're fed up." They didn't really care about messages, they just wanted someone who isn't a political insider because that's all they believe they can trust now. And... some of this can be blamed on actual conservatives who were sent to Washington to change things then abandoned their conservatism.

So maybe this is for the best... maybe we needed this? Granted, it's not what seems the best... it's worse than taking a dose of bad tasting medicine. But maybe we need to get this out of our system so we can return to a clean slate and then start to rebuild a true and strong coalition of conservative values? Once the real Donald Trump becomes known, there will be many who regret their choice. He may or may not defeat Hillary in November and some of us may feel obligated to support him even though he makes their blood boil. I can't tell you what is the right thing to do because I think it's a personal decision you'll have to make.

For me personally, I am not ready to support Donald Trump. I think he needs to unify this party and to do so he needs to advance core conservative principles. It's not our obligation to abandon our beliefs and move toward him, it's his duty as the GOP nominee to reassure the base that we can be united under principles we can all be proud to support in November. If he can't do that or his ego won't let him do that, or his supporters refuse to embrace such a concept, they will do so at their own peril. Clearly, this is out of the control of conservatives now, we can't do anything about what Trump does going forward, that's entirely his prerogative. But there are millions and millions of American conservative voters who are listening and waiting for a reason they should vote for this man in November.

Forget about Trumps antagonistic and frenzied base of supporters... they really don't matter here. What they have to say doesn't matter. They are all giddy with excitement like they just won the championship football game and full of beans. They have already demonstrated they will support Trump no matter what he says or how many times he transitions from one side of a position to another. It's a proven quantity and we know that. What matters is what Trump does. He can either continue to alienate conservatives or he can attempt to bring them into the big tent. The course he takes will have a tremendous effect on his general election bid.

I mostly agree, but it really boils down to one question. Do you want the hildabitch or sanders to be picking possibly the next 4 supreme court justices, that could easily be deciding the course of the country for the next 40+ years? If your answer is no, there's only one alternative.

 

[emilynghiem]

The wealthy are doing very well.

That is a non-issue.
The wealthy do "very well" regardless of who's in power. Political climate only affects how they manage that wealth.
There's no policy that will change that short of stripping them of everything - investments, real estate, bank accounts, and so on. Even that's not a certainty, since they could potentially rebuild using social connections.

Dear Alystyr instead of stripping anyone of any power or wealth,
why not redistribute the KNOWLEDGE of how to manage and build sustainable wealth.

Ever hear of the abundance mentality vs scarcity mentality?

Scarcity mentality translates into victim mentality that politicians use to SCARE people into blaming either the poor or the rich,
divide people by class and party, and then use up all resources bullying back and forth by fear-based politics, especially abusing media to keep the negative hype going.

Abundance mentality teaches that by investing in growing businesses and serving people, including mentoring and helping others to develop independently,
then EVERYONE benefits and more resources and opportunities multiply for more people.

Instead of competing for scarce resources and thinking we need to beat out the next guy to get ahead, where someone has to lose in order for others to win,
abundance mentality says to invest in building personal and community relations for mutual benefit across the board.
Nobody has to lose, everyone can benefit and win.

Cooperative economics works on this basis.
Investing in microlending and business training to uplift people and whole regions out of poverty
works on this idea of investing in the economy by investing in people to gain business experience in financial and property management.

So why not invest in self-government and teaching communities, cities and states
to manage independently based on their own local resources and leadership?

Right now we have groups attacking each other for political points to gain favor
to get elected to higher centralized offices.

Why not SHARE and redistribute the responsibility among leaders on local levels
and train more people to get involved directly in business and community management.

Wouldn't that create a more self-sufficient financially and politically stable environment
by educating and training the masses to collaborate and run their own districts instead of depending on govt higher up to dictate and mandate policy for them?

What kind of world do we want to live in?
One that is self-sustaining or one that depends on dividing and conquering,
bullying one group over the other to dominate in politics, govt and media.
How sustainable is it to spend billions of dollars on media attacks back and forth
instead of investing our resources directly into creating jobs solving the problems
of govt, society and future development through stable systems of economy and education?