Conservative Bible

[hobelim]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

 

[Oddball]

Who said anything about taking money from people I don’t like? I’m talking about everyone who makes over a certain amount paying taxes to help feed the poor.

The fact is it’s the poor people you don’t like.

So you should have said why take money from you to give it to people you don’t like

So theft is cool, as long as you limit it to the really, really, really rich neighborhoods....Gotcha.

 

[Oddball]

I do not believe in the divinity of Jesus. The new testament recounts at least one incident where Jesus saved an adultress (?) from a stoning mob saying: "let you who are without sin cast the first stone". He also died by one of the cruelest capital punishments ever devised. It's state sanctioned vengeance, the scriptures say that belongs to God alone.

Indeed....You believe in the divinity of The State....Can't serve two masters and all that.

 

[sealybobo]

Who said anything about taking money from people I don’t like? I’m talking about everyone who makes over a certain amount paying taxes to help feed the poor.

The fact is it’s the poor people you don’t like.

So you should have said why take money from you to give it to people you don’t like

So theft is cool, as long as you limit it to the really, really, really rich neighborhoods....Gotcha.

No I'm willing to chip in just like you are willing to pay more for a wall. If the government passes a bill to pay for a wall you won't see me crying about it. I'll cry until it gets passed then I'll just point out later how the wall didn't fix shit.

We as a society agreed to help the poor. We can't help it if a 40% of the population (Republicans) don't like it. Just because they are racists. It's up to you to win over 11% of the voters so you can get your way.

You guys didn't do away with helping the poor. All you did was force people taking welfare to work

When President Trump signed an executive order this year directing federal agencies to review adding work requirements to federal assistance programs, he said such requirements would “increase self-sufficiency, well-being and economic mobility.”

Work requirements have never been about helping the poor or unemployed. They’ve always been about punishing black people.

This has become abundantly clear over the last few weeks as states drafting policies requiring Medicaid recipients get a job or engage in other employment activity have added exemptions. These carve-outs would, in effect, spare white, rural residents from work requirements but not black ones in urban areas. These proposals have turned the subtext that was there all along into legible text.

Kentucky, Ohio and Virginia are seeking waivers from the Department of Health and Human Services that would allow them to impose work requirements on some Medicaid recipients, but not all of them. They all included exemptions for counties with the highest unemployment levels, which are rural, mostly white areas. Urban centers where lots of black people are unemployed, but whose county-level unemployment rates are lower, would be subject to the work requirement.

 

[Meriweather]

Work requirements have never been about helping the poor or unemployed. They’ve always been about punishing black people.

I don't believe this. Every able bodied person should be required to work according to their ability. To not require this is to make people soft, which leads to unhappiness and depression. I would keep an eye out for people who want work for Caucasians but not for other races.

 

[presonorek]

Well? Have you ever come across a Bible in a hotel or something?

Ever read it? It would probably change your life for the worst.

Yes, I can see how that would terrible.

Just don't ever do it. Trust me. You will regret it.

So that’s where I went wrong. Damn.

You read it? The whole thing?

You sound surprised. Why wouldn’t I?

I am surprised.

 

[Avatar4321]

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Don’t you think Jesus would be proud that we as a society provide foodstamps to people who don’t have money?

But to you giving any poor person tax money is stealing from you?

I don’t think a real Christian would feel that way.

Why would he be proud that you took money from people you don't like to give to others? He asked you to give. Not to steal

Who said anything about taking money from people I don’t like? I’m talking about everyone who makes over a certain amount paying taxes to help feed the poor.

The fact is it’s the poor people you don’t like.

So you should have said why take money from you to give it to people you don’t like

So you’re argument is that I hate myself because I object to stealing from others?

 

[Avatar4321]

Are you expecting all Christians to vote in a certain way? Can you give a for instance?

The politics of RW Christianity is but a reflection of the highly flexible value system of those self-identifying as such. Pick any moral question such as the death penalty. I am certain Jesus was against it especially there at the end. Most Christians support it and find it moral even though it reeks of vengeance and the deliberate taking of a life. Don't want to have a discussion on the death penalty, it was an example of how RW Christians come down on any moral question of secular life and governance.

So Jesus gave Moses a law that had the death penalty throughout and gave Adam the death penalty for eating fruit he shouldn't have eaten, but you're certain Jesus was against it. why?

I do not believe in the divinity of Jesus. The new testament recounts at least one incident where Jesus saved an adultress (?) from a stoning mob saying: "let you who are without sin cast the first stone". He also died by one of the cruelest capital punishments ever devised. It's state sanctioned vengeance, the scriptures say that belongs to God alone.

What about when he healed people? Or stopped a storm on the ocean? Or walked on water? Or fed thousands with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread?

Jesus should have instead taught those 5000 takers to fish.

These weren’t people looking for handouts

 

[occupied]

My liberal values were absolutely informed by my early religious indoctrination. How conservatives have turned the seven deadly sins into virtues is beyond me. I no longer call myself a christian but the fearlessly gentle example of Jesus still resonates strongly with me.

Then you are a Christian.

I would not mind the title of Christian at all if the Jesus fan club were not so incredibly hostile to the words and ideals put forth in the story of Jesus. If he came back somehow they would be the first in line to nail him up again.

 

[ding]

Yes, I can see how that would terrible.

Just don't ever do it. Trust me. You will regret it.

So that’s where I went wrong. Damn.

You read it? The whole thing?

You sound surprised. Why wouldn’t I?

I am surprised.

Why? What’s so surprising about it?

 

[Picaro]

For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

To my knowledge this is the only verse of the Bible ever quoted by conservatives.

There are 17 other verses in Chapter 3 of Thessalonians. Are they relevant?

There are 23,144 other verses in the Bible. Are they relevant?

How can people continue to pretend that the Bible doesn't promote left wing principles? The Bible is way more consistent with liberal political thought than with conservative politic thought. Does anybody get it?

they also ignore the verse that states a working man is worthy of his hire, since they hate the idea of laborers making a living off the sweat of their brow. Be that as it may, the bible is neither 'left wing' nor 'right wing', nor 'liberal', it is a theological framework for building societies and moral philosophies that have to be in place for them to work efficiently and be a true benefit to all peoples. 'Rules lawyering' is just another form of dishonesty in those looking for 'outs' for their favorite criminal activities and indulging in sociopathic urges, is all.

 

[Picaro]

My liberal values were absolutely informed by my early religious indoctrination. How conservatives have turned the seven deadly sins into virtues is beyond me. I no longer call myself a christian but the fearlessly gentle example of Jesus still resonates strongly with me.

I think the Bible has been treated as a symbol rather than a document that is intended to be read. The image of the Bible has been rebranded. Many never challenge what others claim the Bibke is. The just accept it because the Bubke is a large book to read.

Irrelevant. The central doctrine of much of Christianity is that Jesus was a new covenant with God and the old testament is pretty much obsolete where it conflicts with the teachings of Christ.

Actually he was an advocate of a return to the old Mosiac covenants and commands, which is why his teachings expand those to the rest of the planet, while the Jewish political system he was bringing down stayed stuck in racist rubbish and obsessions with their bloodlines, in direct opposition to the commands.

 

[ding]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

 

[hobelim]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer than try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature. Don't worry, its not all bad and you don't need me to write a book. You have faith in a cracker.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

 

[Picaro]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer that try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

In other words, you're lazy, stupid, and ignorant, and how dare anybody suggest you do your homework first, before babbling rubbish and hoping nobody else notices you're pathetically unqualified to comment on anything.

 

[hobelim]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer that try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

In other words, you're lazy, stupid, and ignorant, and how dare anybody suggest you do your homework first, before babbling rubbish and hoping nobody else notices you're pathetically unqualified to comment on anything.

lol... Its not about me being lazy or stupid. I told this jerk a dozen times that I do not belong to or practice any religion and then he accuses me of hiding something as if I was a contemptible secret subversive anti christian Jew...( he seems to have a problem with Jews). I tell him that I believe in God and he calls me an atheist. How many times should I show him how Jesus blessed the nations with curse in a cup of wine? How many times should I show him how Jesus cured a blindness of perception not sight? How many times should I let him accuse me of being a nut job before I tell him to **** off? If you want me to write a book, show me the money and I'll give you a thousand pages of sentences saying, "God is not human; God is not edible." I think I'll call it "Wake up you Idiot."

I'm not trying to convince him or you of anything. I am not into wasting my time. So now there are two of you prepped for slaughter for the benefit of starving people standing around with empty plates watching the meat being stripped from the bone, the fat being trimmed from the flesh and thrown on the fire, ready to eat for free.


He openly teaches people to set aside the law of God and practice Idolatry and has made it clear that he has made a deliberate choice to allow satan to enter his mind to perpetuate falsehoods. Apparently so have you.

That calls for Gods will to be done on earth exactly as it is done in heaven as expressed in genesis 3:14.

A place for everything and everything in its place. No book necessary. A few words will do.

You know nothing about me, what I know, what I have learned, or where I have learned it from, much less what is coming. If I wasn't qualified to comment, you wouldn't be confounded. Thats should give you a clue.

 

[Taz]

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer that try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

In other words, you're lazy, stupid, and ignorant, and how dare anybody suggest you do your homework first, before babbling rubbish and hoping nobody else notices you're pathetically unqualified to comment on anything.

lol... Its not about me being lazy or stupid. I told this jerk a dozen times that I do not belong to or practice any religion and then he accuses me of hiding something as if I was a contemptible secret subversive anti christian Jew...( he seems to have a problem with Jews). I tell him that I believe in God and he calls me an atheist. How many times should I show him how Jesus blessed the nations with curse in a cup of wine? How many times should I show him how Jesus cured a blindness of perception not sight? How many times should I let him accuse me of being a nut job before I tell him to **** off? If you want me to write a book, show me the money and I'll give you a thousand pages of sentences saying, "God is not human; God is not edible." I think I'll call it "Wake up you Idiot."

I'm not trying to convince him or you of anything. I am not into wasting my time. So now there are two of you prepped for slaughter for the benefit of starving people standing around with empty plates watching the meat being stripped from the bone, the fat being trimmed from the flesh and thrown on the fire, ready to eat for free.


He openly teaches people to set aside the law of God and practice Idolatry and has made it clear that he has made a deliberate choice to allow satan to enter his mind to perpetuate falsehoods. Apparently so have you.

That calls for Gods will to be done on earth exactly as it is done in heaven as expressed in genesis 3:14.

A place for everything and everything in its place. No book necessary. A few words will do.

You know nothing about me, what I know, what I have learned, or where I have learned it from, much less what is coming. If I wasn't qualified to comment, you wouldn't be confounded. Thats should give you a clue.

If it looks like a Sod Jew and quacks like a Sod Jew, hob must be a Sod Jew.

 

[hobelim]

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer that try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

In other words, you're lazy, stupid, and ignorant, and how dare anybody suggest you do your homework first, before babbling rubbish and hoping nobody else notices you're pathetically unqualified to comment on anything.

lol... Its not about me being lazy or stupid. I told this jerk a dozen times that I do not belong to or practice any religion and then he accuses me of hiding something as if I was a contemptible secret subversive anti christian Jew...( he seems to have a problem with Jews). I tell him that I believe in God and he calls me an atheist. How many times should I show him how Jesus blessed the nations with curse in a cup of wine? How many times should I show him how Jesus cured a blindness of perception not sight? How many times should I let him accuse me of being a nut job before I tell him to **** off? If you want me to write a book, show me the money and I'll give you a thousand pages of sentences saying, "God is not human; God is not edible." I think I'll call it "Wake up you Idiot."

I'm not trying to convince him or you of anything. I am not into wasting my time. So now there are two of you prepped for slaughter for the benefit of starving people standing around with empty plates watching the meat being stripped from the bone, the fat being trimmed from the flesh and thrown on the fire, ready to eat for free.


He openly teaches people to set aside the law of God and practice Idolatry and has made it clear that he has made a deliberate choice to allow satan to enter his mind to perpetuate falsehoods. Apparently so have you.

That calls for Gods will to be done on earth exactly as it is done in heaven as expressed in genesis 3:14.

A place for everything and everything in its place. No book necessary. A few words will do.

You know nothing about me, what I know, what I have learned, or where I have learned it from, much less what is coming. If I wasn't qualified to comment, you wouldn't be confounded. Thats should give you a clue.

If it looks like a Sod Jew and quacks like a Sod Jew, hob must be a Sod Jew.

Gee. I don't know what I have done to be chosen for this honor, but before I accept the award and official title of Sod Jew I would like to first thank God, baby Jesus, all of the the angels, mommy, daddy, my first grade teacher, Noah, sheep, goats, kangaroos, dingbats, numbskulls, ghouls, morons, the hierarchy of hell, wolves, dogs, swine, vultures, creepy things that creep, and all of you deviant perverts out there who have made it all possible... without you I would be just another Gentile who can't read.

xoxo

 

[ding]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer than try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature. Don't worry, its not all bad and you don't need me to write a book. You have faith in a cracker.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

You must not believe spirit created the material world. I do.

Your concept of God must be very interesting.

But putting that aside you can’t work through every parable and verse because your beliefs are wrong.

 

[hobelim]

Vaffanculo a chi t’è morto.

I think you are a subversive who is only interested in subordinating religion.

"They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things, but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

I think you are the one who has no clue.

Why don’t you write a book about it? Because every single time I drill down into your hidden meaning you end up coming off as a baboon.

You would literally have to work through every single verse to prove your point to me which we both know you cannot do.

Your BS is limited to the same limited selective cherry pickings which are taken totally out of context.

lol... You think I have something to prove to you? I need to work through every verse? I don't think so. You can't get past the fact that when God created heaven and earth the sky above and the ground below were already in existence for billions of years. I would rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledgehammer than try to get you to understand something as simple as the fact that the miracles of Jesus were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality. You have lost your mind and seemed to have forgotten 9th grade science and first grade literature. Don't worry, its not all bad and you don't need me to write a book. You have faith in a cracker.

You, a he goat without blemish, have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.


That is what is actually taking place.

You must not believe spirit created the material world. I do.

Your concept of God must be very interesting.

But putting that aside you can’t work through every parable and verse because your beliefs are wrong.

I see. You are confused again. Go figure.

Let me help you out. What you call my beliefs cannot be wrong unless scripture is wrong. I didn't write the book. If I had never been born it would still be true according to the word of God that there never was and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence.

God is one incorporeal living being, pure consciousness. He has no equal and there is no other God in existence either above or below him. This is what the book says. This is what I believe.

You profess to believe that three coequal gods became a human being who turned himself into a lifeless matzo made by human hands.. Your beliefs are wrong, not according to just me but according to the word of God.

If you don't believe me, you can look it up.