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AzogtheDefiler

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I showed it’s not an absolute and you stole my saying. Moron.

oh, okay.... you claimed that not a single kid in Baltimore knows how to do math.
I posted a link as such. You just don’t know how to click on links unless they are Disney princess movie links. Weirdo.
 

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I posted a link as such. You just don’t know how to click on links unless they are Disney princess movie links. Weirdo.

Uh, uh... you seem to be the one with the weird princess fetish, Big Nose.
You’re the one with the Disney subscription lol and you don’t have kids.
 

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Not quite sure where you're going with your comment about playing on "racist religious and sexual fears". Likely, it's a sad attempt to further obfuscate the discussion in an attempt to move it away from the discussion you're currently failing miserably at...

Okay, try to make it as simple for you as I can.

Most White People are not rich, they aren't bosses, they aren't business owners. Their interests are not the interests of the rich. So how do they get these working class whites to vote against their own economic interests?

By playing on their religious, racial and sexual fears!

I'll give you one great example. 2004, George W. Stupid was trailing John Kerry. Probably because he lied us into the war and made kind of mess of the economy. So how does he get the stupid white people to vote for him. Oh my God, there's a crisis. Gay marriage might become a thing. We need to protect you from the awful gay marriage. If we're re-elected, we'll push a constitutional amendment to make marriage one man and one woman.

Except after he squeaked by a win, he totally forgot about it. Nope, he went right back to doing things Rich people want to get done! Eventually, the courts ruled that gay marriage was something that couldn't be outlawed anyway, and Bush appointees even voted for it.

The Republicans have been pulling this shit since Tricky Dick. And in that time, we've seen the White Middle class continue to decline, Republicans blame minorities, gays, etc.

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Wow.

You fell out of the Idiot Tree and hit every fuckin' branch on the way down, didn't you?

Why do you believe that business owners are out to fuck their employees? It's clear that you absolutely despise capitalism, but the reality is that, without capitalism, no one would have a job, whether they're in a union or not.

Both of my companies are structured so that, when the company makes more money the employees make money. I've tried and tried, but I just don't see a downside to that.

Perhaps this is news to you, but hiring or firing someone on the basis of their religion or sexual orientation is illegal. It's simply not an issue at my company. Your pretending that it is only further proves how big of an idiot asshole you are.

Your arguments have become profoundly weak to the point that it's not just me trying to get you to realize that. You might wanna' think about that the next time you're gonna' belch up more of your nonsense...
 

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Were they? Were they really? Or were they just one medical crisis away from bankruptcy like most of us are?

Maybe they were and maybe they weren't.

But the stroke led to people losing their homes, and you applaud that.

What a fucking scumbag you are...

You keep citing these "some people", but 87% of union members voted for the contract that was eventually won.

Of course they voted for it. They were getting tired of not working, not earning money and getting foreclosed on or evicted...

If you didn't keep changing your story, you might have some credibility. Your story was that he was buying dinners and airline tickets for employees of one of your customers.

I've changed nothing. The more you whine about that the more stupid you look...

He wasn't stealing from you, he was spending money on a customer, which is something sales reps do.

His credit card was not issued to him so he could spend money on anyone other than his accounts. Period. Having it set up that way erases any grey area. That concept seems to throw you a real curve ball, though. Then again, not being a professional in even the loosest sense of the word, you wouldn't know anything about that...

Again, sounds like poor supervision and management to me.

And it sounds like grand theft and embezzlement to the St. Johns County District Attorney. Now, I've no doubt you'll stupidly claim to know more about the law than he does, but I'll go with his opinion, regardless...
 
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Why do you believe that business owners are out to fuck their employees? It's clear that you absolutely despise capitalism, but the reality is that, without capitalism, no one would have a job, whether they're in a union or not.

30 years of watching employers fuck over their employees... that's why i think that's what they are out to do.

yes, I despise capitalism. No, I don't think capitalism is needed to create jobs. Consumer demand creates jobs.

Perhaps this is news to you, but hiring or firing someone on the basis of their religion or sexual orientation is illegal. It's simply not an issue at my company. Your pretending that it is only further proves how big of an idiot asshole you are.

Um, yeah, the thing is, THOSE protections are kind of meaningless if you have "at Will" employment. You've said yourself you fire people for having religious discussions on work time. I know a lady who was fired from her job right after the boss found out she was gay.

This had nothing to do with the point I was making, about how Republicans use social issues to get stupid white people to vote against their own economic interests. In fact, you kind of missed the point of that political discussion altogether.
 
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Of course they voted for it. They were getting tired of not working, not earning money and getting foreclosed on or evicted...

They could have crossed the picket lines... or voted for a less stringent agreement.. they didn't. That was the point.

His credit card was not issued to him so he could spend money on anyone other than his accounts. Period. Having it set up that way erases any grey area. That concept seems to throw you a real curve ball, though. Then again, not being a professional in even the loosest sense of the word, you wouldn't know anything about that...

Which again, begs the question, WHY was he spending money on other people's accounts... you keep glossing over that area, which tells me I'm not getting the complete story. What was the upside for him? Did he think he was going to steal that account away from the person who had it? Or did someone leave him with the impression that was something he could try, and if successful he would be rewarded.

And honestly, seeing thirty years of utterly sleazy corporate behavior, often getting worse the smaller the company is, I'm not taking anything at face value.
 

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I posted a link as such. You just don’t know how to click on links unless they are Disney princess movie links. Weirdo.

Uh, uh... you seem to be the one with the weird princess fetish, Big Nose.
Are you going to watch this tonight with a bucket of popcorn, fatty?


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30 years of watching employers fuck over their employees... that's why i think that's what they are out to do.

Well, you're wrong and you're an idiot.

Helluva' combination.l..

yes, I despise capitalism. No, I don't think capitalism is needed to create jobs. Consumer demand creates jobs.

Someone needs to be the one to step up and put up the money to kickstart the process of meeting that demand. Consumer demand means dick if the means to satisfy that demand is nonexistent...

Um, yeah, the thing is, THOSE protections are kind of meaningless if you have "at Will" employment. You've said yourself you fire people for having religious discussions on work time. I know a lady who was fired from her job right after the boss found out she was gay.

Yes, two people were fired for having a political/religious discussion. What they believed had no bearing on their dismissal from my company....

This had nothing to do with the point I was making, about how Republicans use social issues to get stupid white people to vote against their own economic interests. In fact, you kind of missed the point of that political discussion altogether.

Well, I'm not a Republican, so anything said about that, with regards to people being on strike or losing their jobs of getting fired is pretty nonsensical...
 
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They could have crossed the picket lines... or voted for a less stringent agreement.. they didn't. That was the point.

Advocating for scabs now.

Interesting...

Which again, begs the question, WHY was he spending money on other people's accounts... you keep glossing over that area, which tells me I'm not getting the complete story. What was the upside for him? Did he think he was going to steal that account away from the person who had it? Or did someone leave him with the impression that was something he could try, and if successful he would be rewarded.

Again, dummy, thank yourself for not having that information.

I'm getting a kick out of watching your mental flailings, trying to figure out what happened and why when, had you simply answered a simple fucking question, you'd have known it all.

All you had to do was explain how stealing from an employer is ever an acceptable thing to do.

But you know you can't answer that, because you know it never is.

And honestly, seeing thirty years of utterly sleazy corporate behavior, often getting worse the smaller the company is, I'm not taking anything at face value.

You've been fucked over in the past. I understand that. And you know what? That actually makes me happy. Considering how you've conducted yourself here, and the assumptions you've stupidly made throughout this discussion, it really comes as no surprise that someone would want to treat you like shit. It tells me that someone treated you EXACTLY as you deserved to be treated.

After all, you earned it...
 
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Someone needs to be the one to step up and put up the money to kickstart the process of meeting that demand. Consumer demand means dick if the means to satisfy that demand is nonexistent...

The government could do that just as well as private companies. In fact, the government already spends billions helping startups, as do the banks.

So we could essentially have socialism and control of the means of production, no capitalists required. I wouldn't recommend it.

So to put it into perspective... think of Capitalism as a pitbull.

People like you think it should be allowed to roam the neighborhood and if it mauls the local kiddies, it's their own damned fault.

The Bernie bros think the pitbull should be taken out into the woods and shot.

I'm kind of in the middle. I think it needs a leash, a muzzle and obedience school.

Well, I'm not a Republican, so anything said about that, with regards to people being on strike or losing their jobs of getting fired is pretty nonsensical...

You are slow, aren't you? I mean, I don't now if I can dumb it down for you any more.

There are a lot more workers than capitalists... Therefore, if the ONLY thing we discussed during elections was economic issues, we'd be a lot closer to socialist Europe than we are. The GOP gets working white people to vote against their own interests... by playing on their racism and sexual fears.

Then they wonder why they have no rights at work.
 
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All you had to do was explain how stealing from an employer is ever an acceptable thing to do.

But you know you can't answer that, because you know it never is.

Well, you can't steal something you were GIVEN, it's not a matter of stealing.

He didn't break into your office in the middle of the night and steal that credit card, YOU GAVE IT TO HIM.
 

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There are a lot more workers than capitalists...

So what?

Not everyone has the drive and pluck to go into business. They get to be the workers, and there's nothing wrong with that...

Therefore, if the ONLY thing we discussed during elections was economic issues, we'd be a lot closer to socialist Europe than we are. The GOP gets working white people to vote against their own interests... by playing on their racism and sexual fears.

This is not a political issue.

If you'll recall, I don't allow politics in my workplace, regardless of the affiliation, even if I agree with you 100%...

Then they wonder why they have no rights at work.

What the fuck are you talking about?

My people have plenty of rights...
 

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All you had to do was explain how stealing from an employer is ever an acceptable thing to do.

But you know you can't answer that, because you know it never is.

Well, you can't steal something you were GIVEN, it's not a matter of stealing.

He didn't break into your office in the middle of the night and steal that credit card, YOU GAVE IT TO HIM.

Yes, and then he used it in an unauthorized manner in an effort to benefit himself at my company's expense. My company was not going to benefit at all.

Although we did manage to get rid of the scumbag.

Again, dipshit, the DA and his attorney saw it as a case he could not win. So anything you have to say about it is almost as meaningless as you are.

When is it okay to steal from an employer? The fact that YOU don't think it was stealing means nothing. There was a clear legal case for it being exactly that.

So, when is it okay to steal from an employer. Even if you don't believe this was a case of stealing, you should still be able to formulate an even mildly intelligent reply.

Or can't you?

When is it okay to steal from an employer?
 
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So what?

Not everyone has the drive and pluck to go into business. They get to be the workers, and there's nothing wrong with that...

Okay... but frankly, no reason why the workers should put up with abuse... We had a whole progressive movement over this point.

That's why we have a LABOR DAY and not a CAPTIALIST DAY.

What the fuck are you talking about?

My people have plenty of rights...

Your people? Uh, Massa Lincoln Freed the slaves... I'm sure you didn't get the memo.


Again, dipshit, the DA and his attorney saw it as a case he could not win. So anything you have to say about it is almost as meaningless as you are.

Naw, his attorney just took the path of least resistance...if your case was slam dunk, you'd share all the relevant details.

When is it okay to steal from an employer? The fact that YOU don't think it was stealing means nothing. There was a clear legal case for it being exactly that.

So, when is it okay to steal from an employer. Even if you don't believe this was a case of stealing, you should still be able to formulate an even mildly intelligent reply.

Don't know, doesn't sound like stealing to me... sounds like bad management.
 

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Okay... but frankly, no reason why the workers should put up with abuse...

I absolutely agree.

I don't abuse my people.

What would a union secure for my employees that I cannot already give them?

Your people? Uh, Massa Lincoln Freed the slaves... I'm sure you didn't get the memo.

You're a dickless little fuck. You knew exactly what I meant, you sniveling little shit...

Naw, his attorney just took the path of least resistance...if your case was slam dunk, you'd share all the relevant details.

Well, in a way I guess it was the path of least resistance. Had we gone to trial, his client was told he could expect to hear about two weeks of testimony against him before being sentenced to prison for 18 months. Instead, he took a plea to avoid jail time...

Don't know, doesn't sound like stealing to me... sounds like bad management.

God, you'[re fucking stupid. I said: "Even if you don't believe this was a case of stealing, you should still be able to formulate an even mildly intelligent reply."

And you've proven yet again, that you can't. You're just not smart enough...
 
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You're a dickless little fuck. You knew exactly what I meant, you sniveling little shit...

yes, I do, unfortunately... the fact that you consider them "your people" and you can fire them at will says it all.

Well, in a way I guess it was the path of least resistance. Had we gone to trial, his client was told he could expect to hear about two weeks of testimony against him before being sentenced to prison for 18 months. Instead, he took a plea to avoid jail time...

Or he might have had a jury acquit him because they heard the evidence you are trying so hard to hide from me.

God, you'[re fucking stupid. I said: "Even if you don't believe this was a case of stealing, you should still be able to formulate an even mildly intelligent reply."

And you've proven yet again, that you can't. You're just not smart enough...

I think your a bit confused.

You have to prove to me that it WAS actually stealing before I can render if the case was right or wrong.

I don't have to come up with scenarios to prove it might be justified.

The fact you are hiding key facts tells me that the whole story doesn't make you look good.

Anyway, I have a party to get to, so you'll need to be needy with someone else for a few hours.
 

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