Confirmed Enhanced Interrogation Works

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John Kenneth Galbraith once observed that "the enemy of the conventional wisdom is not ideas but the march of events." And events have finally caught up with the oft-repeated claim that torture doesn't work and that it especially didn't work in tracking down Osama bin Laden.

The more journalists probe into the hunt that ended in bin Laden's death at the hands of a Navy SEAL team a year ago, the more apparent it is that the first clues leading to his Pakistan hideout were beaten and bullied out of captured al-Qaida members.

Two books published last year - Peter L. Bergen's "Manhunt" and Mark Bowden's "The Finish" - were the first to suggest that the trail to bin Laden began with information obtained with what the CIA euphemistically refers to as "enhanced interrogation techniques." And now a TV documentary based on "Manhunt," which includes on-the-record interviews with several members of the CIA team that hunted bin Laden, is airing on HBO.........

Sometimes torture works - Glenn Garvin

But its really insensitive and mean to innocent jihadist neanderthals................
 
Thanks dubya, the military, and our intelligence services...........as well as our expert interrogators.......
 
What ever you want to call it, I will continue to call it a tool that needs to be in the tool box for gathering intelligence.

Just as there are many tools in a toolbox, the reasoning is the same. There is no one tool that perfect for the job at hand.

EIT may only be effective in a very small number of interviews, but so is a 12mm socket. That doesn't mean you throw it away.

You use it when it is the proper tool.
 
Torture apologists are reaching precisely the wrong conclusion from the back-story of the hunt for Osama bin Laden, say experienced interrogators and intelligence professionals.

Defenders of the Bush administration’s interrogation policies have claimed vindication from reports that bin Laden was tracked down in small part due to information received from brutalized detainees some six to eight years ago.

But that sequence of events -- even if true -- doesn’t demonstrate the effectiveness of torture, these experts say. Rather, it indicates bin Laden could have been caught much earlier had those detainees been interrogated properly.

"I think that without a doubt, torture and enhanced interrogation techniques slowed down the hunt for bin Laden," said an Air Force interrogator who goes by the pseudonym Matthew Alexander and located Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, in 2006.

It now appears likely that several detainees had information about a key al Qaeda courier -- information that might have led authorities directly to bin Laden years ago. But subjected to physical and psychological brutality, "they gave us the bare minimum amount of information they could get away with to get the pain to stop, or to mislead us," Alexander told The Huffington Post.

"We know that they didn’t give us everything, because they didn’t provide the real name, or the location, or somebody else who would know that information," he said.
Torture May Have Slowed Hunt For Bin Laden, Not Hastened It
 
Plea bargaining and asking politely certainly would have hastened the information gathering.....

That, and fear of an indictment..................lol
 

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