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Those are Conservative views, Dummy.
DOOD. Wallace by then was more than well known, not only around the state where he'd been running since the '50s but nationally. He won for the same reason Rump did --- name recognition.
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Quite likely. Especially with how bat shit crazy and evil you dems have become.
My point about how he embraced equality for blacks and asked blacks for forgiveness, and still won, with his base of poor rural southern whites,
and how that disproves your sides narrative on how racist America and the GOP is?
The fact that you choose to avoid addressing that point, is a tacit admission that you already knew that, and know that your constant race baiting is nothing but bullshit.
YOu are a race baiting liar.
The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.
Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.
"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."
But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.
The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.
They were radicals in their desire to conserve the Enlightenment Era ideals of the Founding Fathers.
I didn't use the word radical, but I agree with that.
Hardly. "Republicans" (what I posted) and "republicans" (what you posted) are two different things, and I see what you tried to do there.
Even if you meant "Republicans" it couldn't be supported. Republicans of 1860 have as much in common as a whole ideologically as does the radio station called WANK-FM that one day ceases playing classical music and goes to Hip Hop. It's still called WANK-FM buuuuut..... slllllightly different audience.
The idea that ANY political party is some fixed entity that never changes with the times is naïve and absurd on its face.
I'm not a "dem", Dumbass.
No.
Really? A man who personified segregation, flips on the issue, AND DOES NOT LOSE HIS SUPPORTERS, even in the DEEP SOUTH?
That is an incredibly powerful historical fact, and it destroys your race baiting narrative.
NAME RECOGNITION?!
The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.This George Wallace?
Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.
"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."
But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.
The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.
They were radicals in their desire to conserve the Enlightenment Era ideals of the Founding Fathers.
I didn't use the word radical, but I agree with that.
Hardly. "Republicans" (what I posted) and "republicans" (what you posted) are two different things, and I see what you tried to do there.
Even if you meant "Republicans" it couldn't be supported. Republicans of 1860 have as much in common as a whole ideologically as does the radio station called WANK-FM that one day ceases playing classical music and goes to Hip Hop. It's still called WANK-FM buuuuut..... slllllightly different audience.
The idea that ANY political party is some fixed entity that never changes with the times is naïve and absurd on its face.
I'm not a "dem", Dumbass.
No.
1. I did not claim that you used the word "radical" so, i dont' know why you posted that.
2. The GOP was founded on the Enlightenment Era principles of our founding fathers, and we have never wavered, and are still right there.
3. As demonstrated by our continued belief in God Given Rights. While you, "liberals" believe that the all powerful STATE, gives rights to people. This harkens back to the Divine Right of Kings, a very Dark Ages concept and insanely regressive.
Ass clown you are the racist trying to defend your ancestors racist ways.
George Wallace was never a LIBERAL Democrat, that's the right wing lie that is being told. Racist Democrats in the South were die hard CONSERVATIVES.
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Dim mentality?
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And the Leftard still can't back up the bullshit he is spewing from his face anus.
All you got, is smearing good people. You are a ******* moron.
Yet, when Wallace flipped on this issue, which you claim was so important to them, his supporters stayed with him.
George Wallace - Wikipedia
"In the late 1970s, Wallace announced that he was a born-again Christian and apologized to black civil rights leaders for his past actions as a segregationist. He said that while he had once sought power and glory, he realized he needed to seek love and forgiveness.[note 2] In 1979, Wallace said of his stand in the schoolhouse door: "I was wrong. Those days are over, and they ought to be over."[67] He publicly asked for forgiveness from black people.[67][68]
In the 1982 Alabama gubernatorial Democratic primary, Wallace's main opponents were Lieutenant Governor George McMillan and Alabama House Speaker Joe McCorquodale. In the primary, McCorquodale was eliminated, and the vote went to a runoff, with Wallace holding a slight edge over McMillan. Wallace won the Democratic nomination by a margin of 51 to 49 percent. In the general election, his opponent was Montgomery Republican Mayor Emory Folmar. Polling experts at first thought the 1982 election was the best chance since Reconstruction for a Republican to be elected as governor of Alabama.[citation needed] Ultimately, though, it was Wallace, not Folmar, who claimed victory.
During Wallace's final term as governor (1983–1987) he made a record number of black appointments to state positions,[69] including, for the first time, two black people as members in the same cabinet."
And this is ******* Alabama. You can't go any further south, without a ******* boat.
And his poor rural white supporters, followed him, despite the change on the policy of civil rights.
Almost as though there were OTHER SHIT GOING ON.
This destroys, your race baiting narrative. YOu lose.
Really? A man who personified segregation, flips on the issue, AND DOES NOT LOSE HIS SUPPORTERS, even in the DEEP SOUTH?
That is an incredibly powerful historical fact, and it destroys your race baiting narrative.
NAME RECOGNITION?!
Yep. And the fact that your only response is an unrelated Googly Image shows you're beaten.
Really? A man who personified segregation, flips on the issue, AND DOES NOT LOSE HIS SUPPORTERS, even in the DEEP SOUTH?
That is an incredibly powerful historical fact, and it destroys your race baiting narrative.
NAME RECOGNITION?!
Yep. And the fact that your only response is an unrelated Googly Image shows you're beaten.
Err, there were words there, that made a point?
Oh, wait, you were just lying. Sorry, don't know why I didn't consider that first.
Your lie is dismissed. You are a lying asshole.
And George Wallace won the Governorship of a Deep South State, with the support of the most rural and poor white voters in the state, despite running on a pro-civil rights platform.
This fact, completely destroys your race baiting narrative. You lose, loser.
I didn't use the word radical, but I agree with that.
Hardly. "Republicans" (what I posted) and "republicans" (what you posted) are two different things, and I see what you tried to do there.
Even if you meant "Republicans" it couldn't be supported. Republicans of 1860 have as much in common as a whole ideologically as does the radio station called WANK-FM that one day ceases playing classical music and goes to Hip Hop. It's still called WANK-FM buuuuut..... slllllightly different audience.
The idea that ANY political party is some fixed entity that never changes with the times is naïve and absurd on its face.
I'm not a "dem", Dumbass.
No.
1. I did not claim that you used the word "radical" so, i dont' know why you posted that.
2. The GOP was founded on the Enlightenment Era principles of our founding fathers, and we have never wavered, and are still right there.
3. As demonstrated by our continued belief in God Given Rights. While you, "liberals" believe that the all powerful STATE, gives rights to people. This harkens back to the Divine Right of Kings, a very Dark Ages concept and insanely regressive.
1. You tried to echo what I had just posted inserting a new term. Again, I don't disagree with that term. Radical means 'to the root'. That's not in dispute.
2. Again you introduce a new term. I will not use "GOP" as the Republican Party is the younger of the two. And I believe it was founded on Abolition, which got done. After that things.... evolved. The RP started taking on the interests of the wealthy, the railroads and corporations, Wall Street, while the DP absorbed the Populist movement and party and took on the interest of immigrants, labor and minorities. Because political parties change with the times, always have, always will, and to pretend otherwise is to live in a world of self-delusion.
3. Neither Liberalism nor political parties have anything to do with any "God". That would be religion. The whole point of Liberalism was to reject the divine right of kings and that racket run by royalty and clergy. We are NOT a theocracy no matter how much you whine and stomp your feet about it. We run on We the People and to coin a phase, "God" will not replace us. We had enough of that shit, that's why we threw it away.
We shouldn't be at all surprised that the apologists trying to preserve a bullshit propaganda campaign shit all over this thread with bullshit-level crapola trying to turn Liberalism into conservatism and vice versa, making up quotes and events out of whole cloth and generally just lying through your teeth because you can't handle the realities. It's par for the coarse.
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Really? A man who personified segregation, flips on the issue, AND DOES NOT LOSE HIS SUPPORTERS, even in the DEEP SOUTH?
That is an incredibly powerful historical fact, and it destroys your race baiting narrative.
NAME RECOGNITION?!
Yep. And the fact that your only response is an unrelated Googly Image shows you're beaten.
Err, there were words there, that made a point?
Oh, wait, you were just lying. Sorry, don't know why I didn't consider that first.
Your lie is dismissed. You are a lying asshole.
And George Wallace won the Governorship of a Deep South State, with the support of the most rural and poor white voters in the state, despite running on a pro-civil rights platform.
This fact, completely destroys your race baiting narrative. You lose, loser.
Once AGAIN for the intellectually bereft, he ran on his NAME. That's all he needed by then, even by well before then. For ****'s sake he ran his WIFE in the mid-'60s and SHE won on his name. Decisively.
What do you call folks who take up arms against the United States?
The Civil Right Act of 1964 was a violation of the 10th Amendment and interfered with private businesses. Liberals like to hold-up the biggest piece of shit Amendment passed by the radical Republicans after the war...the 14th. Most abused Amendment of the Constitution. 13th and 15th are fine. Bill of Rights over time has been selectively incorporated to the states. 14th is moot. Court didn’t need the 14th to do this.
Nape. The George Wallace who was actually active in politics.
"I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill. The liberal left-wingers have passed it. Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., to figure out what to do with it."
But your quote from much later in his life is an inspiring reminder that people can change. Thanks for that.
The Republicans of the period immediately after (and before) the War WERE the Liberals, Dumbass.
They were radicals in their desire to conserve the Enlightenment Era ideals of the Founding Fathers.
Today, we republicans are still the same.
Meanwhile, you dems then and now are doing all you can to destroy that.
Do you believe in God Given Rights?
Do you believe it was a God Given Right to enslave another human being?
I didn't use the word radical, but I agree with that.
Hardly. "Republicans" (what I posted) and "republicans" (what you posted) are two different things, and I see what you tried to do there.
Even if you meant "Republicans" it couldn't be supported. Republicans of 1860 have as much in common as a whole ideologically as does the radio station called WANK-FM that one day ceases playing classical music and goes to Hip Hop. It's still called WANK-FM buuuuut..... slllllightly different audience.
The idea that ANY political party is some fixed entity that never changes with the times is naïve and absurd on its face.
I'm not a "dem", Dumbass.
No.
1. I did not claim that you used the word "radical" so, i dont' know why you posted that.
2. The GOP was founded on the Enlightenment Era principles of our founding fathers, and we have never wavered, and are still right there.
3. As demonstrated by our continued belief in God Given Rights. While you, "liberals" believe that the all powerful STATE, gives rights to people. This harkens back to the Divine Right of Kings, a very Dark Ages concept and insanely regressive.
1. You tried to echo what I had just posted inserting a new term. Again, I don't disagree with that term. Radical means 'to the root'. That's not in dispute.
2. Again you introduce a new term. I will not use "GOP" as the Republican Party is the younger of the two. And I believe it was founded on Abolition, which got done. After that things.... evolved. The RP started taking on the interests of the wealthy, the railroads and corporations, Wall Street, while the DP absorbed the Populist movement and party and took on the interest of immigrants, labor and minorities. Because political parties change with the times, always have, always will, and to pretend otherwise is to live in a world of self-delusion.
3. Neither Liberalism nor political parties have anything to do with any "God". That would be religion. The whole point of Liberalism was to reject the divine right of kings and that racket run by royalty and clergy. We are NOT a theocracy no matter how much you whine and stomp your feet about it. We run on We the People and to coin a phase, "God" will not replace us. We had enough of that shit, that's why we threw it away.
1. I made a point. You focused on semantics, to avoid the point. Typical liberal.
2. Issues changed, but underlying principles, or lack there of, remained.
3. The question of whether the Government grants rights or whether they are inherent, is a political question, and one that modern day democrats, are far more likely to side on "government" and modern day republicans are far more likely to side with "God Given" or inherent. What you are throwing away, is what America has always been about.
When another one of you Dimwinger half wits claimed a bunch of "Dixiecrats" who filibustered the Civil Rights Act flipped to the Republican party you posted this:
Now, since I know what a lying hack asshat you are I can tell you what your dumbfuck spin will be: "I didn't say Lott filibustered the CYA"
But I will tell you know that bullshit won't fly because you posted that while quoting multiple quotes discussing who switched because of the CRA.
You lose again, liar.
Was Strom Thurmond a Dixiecrat?
Was Jessie Helms a Dixiecrat?
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