Compromise is ALWAYS toward progressive policy

[LadyGunSlinger]

Notice how the progressives won't answer the question in regard to TRUE CHOICE, be it abortion or same sex marriage.. hell any moral issue.. Let the people decide.. Liberals are afraid of the American people.. its why they stack the courts to overturn the will of the American people.

Why should you be allowed to vote on what rights others should be allowed to have?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for supper

There it is^^^^^^^ LIBERALISM "Our way or no way at all."

Leftdinger said it straight.. "Why should liberals allow the American people to have a say?"

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Zombie brigade= no compromise

 

[bendog]

No such thing as gun control as spelled out in the Constitution.. CLEARLY SPELLED OUT.

Not that "you" can see anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

Notice how the progressives won't answer the question in regard to TRUE CHOICE, be it abortion or same sex marriage.. hell any moral issue.. Let the people decide.. Liberals are afraid of the American people.. its why they stack the courts to overturn the will of the American people.

Why should you be allowed to vote on what rights others should be allowed to have?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for supper

There it is^^^^^^^ LIBERALISM "Our way or no way at all."

Leftdinger said it straight.. "Why should liberals allow the American people to have a say?"

Lets have a vote....

Should black people have to ride on the back of the bus?
Should women have equal rights?
Should gays have the right to marry the person they love?

Let the people decide

 

[TemplarKormac]

No such thing as gun control as spelled out in the Constitution.. CLEARLY SPELLED OUT.

Not that "you" can see anyway.

Not that "you" had an argument anyway.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why should you be allowed to vote on what rights others should be allowed to have?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for supper

There it is^^^^^^^ LIBERALISM "Our way or no way at all."

Leftdinger said it straight.. "Why should liberals allow the American people to have a say?"

Lets have a vote....

Should black people have to ride on the back of the bus?
Should women have equal rights?
Should gays have the right to marry the person they love?

Let the people decide

1. No

2. They already do. Or did you have your head up your ass when the passed the Glass-Stegall act?

3. They already can.

The "people" are liberals. Let AMERICANS decide.

 

[francoHFW]

This is what compromise means to brainwashed ignorant ideologues....like when 90% want background checks or 74% want immigration reform...kiss your azz goodbye in 2014-16...

 

[Gardener]

Idiotic OP.

The point of Conservatives is to do nothing, to limit progress. To maintain the status quo. Of course a compromise legislation will be progressive, but the Conservatives will make it LESS progressive than what the Progressives want.

 

[rightwinger]

There it is^^^^^^^ LIBERALISM "Our way or no way at all."

Leftdinger said it straight.. "Why should liberals allow the American people to have a say?"

Lets have a vote....

Should black people have to ride on the back of the bus?
Should women have equal rights?
Should gays have the right to marry the person they love?

Let the people decide

1. No

2. They already do. Or did you have your head up your ass when the passed the Glass-Stegall act?

3. They already can.

The "people" are liberals. Let AMERICANS decide.

So

What happens when the people of a state vote to make blacks ride in the back of the bus?
Will of the people ....right?

Lets let the people of every state vote on whether blacks should be allowed to marry whites. Want to bet that some states would ban it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Precisely the point of this thread. Progressives give 0-- Big fat GOOSE EGG, they never compromise. Compromise is ONLY at the expense of conservatism..

What's your compromise position on abortion?

I am PRO CHOICE-- TRUE pro choice.. Give the people the right to choose.. Throw it to the States.. what the people vote, is what they get.. If they choose pro-choice, go for it.. if they choose limited abortion.. their choice..

So are you PRO CHOICE or are you BULLSHIT my way or the highway??

That is not a pro-choice position. That is a position that allows an arbitrary group of people to take away certain individual women's right of choice.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Compromise would be when 90% of the people want universal background checks, you give them universal background checks,

you don't use a minority in the Senate under the Senate's idiotic rules to block the will of 90% of the people.

 

[Dragonlady]

If it were TRUE compromise, would progressives compromise on ANY conservative policy?? Flat tax, abolish wasteful depts., Energy policy that actually creates jobs, balanced budget amendment-- ANYTHING???

Just so we're clear. Flat tax is NOT a conservative policy. Flat tax is adamently opposed by all conservatives since it will affect the rich far more than the poor. The wealthy and the corporations, as well as the Republican Party, have been opposed to a flat tax since it was first proposed. Liberals want a flat tax since the poor would pay the least, and the wealthy, the most. Which is, of course, why the wealth oppose it.

And the purpose of energy policy is not to create jobs, but rather to coordinate energy resources and demands, and assist in funding alternative energy research. Making sure that there is a sufficient and strong supply of all energy resources to fuel the economy and the people, is the goal. Jobs have nothing to do with energy policy. A balanced budget amendment is a dumb idea since governments frequently need to run deficits, especially during wars or recessions. I am fiscally very conservative and don't want any government to run a deficit, but there are times when it's necessary and a balance budget amendment would handcuff future administrations in ways that are not productive or good for the economy.

So, you won't compromise on any of this....

The balance budget amendment - absolutely not. It is a tool all governments need from time to time. But I think there needs to be a lot better fiscal management than what we've seen. There should be no unfunded federal programs - like Medicare Part D. If you want to give something to the people, then the fiscally prudent thing to do is to fund it.

I don't see what energy policy has to do with compromise or jobs. The government doesn't produce energy, the private sector does. And the oil and gas sector in the US has been some of the worst in terms of their environmental record, and as such, there needs to be a lot more oversight of new drilling sites. The Gulf Coast has still not recovered from the BP oil spill - the fisheries are lost for a generation at least. The US really needs to be looking at alternative fuel sources in a meaningful way instead of buying into the oil industry propaganda that says that global warming is a myth. Just look at who is financing climate change denial it's big oil and gas all the way. But that's a whole other thread.

As for flat taxes, as a liberal, I wholeheartedly endorse a flat tax. But you'll never get Mittens and his buddies to agree to it.