complete exoneration

[Oddball]

Just more evidence that gubmint circles the wagons around its favored bad seeds.

You were somehow expecting the the (D) or (R) makes a dime's worth of difference?

 

[Trajan]

Ruby Ridge happened in 1992, during the presidency of George H. W. Bush. Is all your information and posting going to reflect this level of accuracy?

my memory failed, it happens, humbly apologize.

 

[Old Rocks]

I'm fine with the memory failure, but making that clusterfuck any body but the participants fault is wrong. President H W Bush had nothing to do with the idiocy displayed by the FBI, or the foolishness of Weaver. Not the Democrats, not the Republicans.

 

[Oddball]

Right-o...Blame the victim.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The 'climate gate' shown to be a total fraud, Phil Jones back as research head.

Climate scientists exonerated in 'climategate' but public trust damaged - CSMonitor.com

A six-month investigation into the leaked e-mails that formed the "climategate" scandal has largely exonerated key scientists, including Phil Jones, the former – and now reinstated – director of the University of East Anglia's (UEA) Climate Research Unit (CRU). The CRU's key findings have a major impact on the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which in turn influences climate policy on a global scale, including pending cap-and-trade carbon offset legislation in the US. Critics charged that the "climategate" e-mails proved that researchers were gaming the science to win public support for the idea that countries need to act to correct global warming

Hear Ye
Hear ye
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Look at the hypocrisy we are now witnessing. Is this not one of the posters who insists that we check the credentials of anyone who opposes the lock step on anthropomorphic global warming? One of those that claims that only people who actually study the climate are qualified to have an opinion?

Let us examine the very same credentials of the men he now claims prove him and his ilk right.

The make up of the panel of "experts" who signed off on the IPCC data being essentially correct, if a bit zealous in their methods. After all, saving the planet is important, and a few excesses are understandable, because the "experts" agree the science is right.

Sir Alistair Muir Russell, who led the panel of experts, is a career civil servant from Scotland. Just because the Scottish government is rabidly pro AGW does not mean that Russell would allow political pressure to taint his judgment.

Muir Russell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geoffrey Boulton is an expert at chairing committees, and leads the Global Change Research Group, but surely he would not allow personal bias to color his professional opinion.

http://www.lu.se/upload/LUPDF/Forskning/GeoffreyBoulton_CV.pdf

Professor Peter Clarke is a physicist who has never studied climatology.

David Eyton is an engineer employed by, wait for it, BP and has no background in climatology.

Professor Jim Norton is a man who is so talented only hiws own words do him justice.

Aged fifty-seven, Jim Norton is an independent director and policy adviser. He is an external member of the Board of the UK Parliament’s Office of Science & Technology (POST) and council member of the Parliamentary IT Committee (PITCOM). Jim is a Non-Executive Director of F&C Capital & Income Investment Trust plc, where he chairs the Audit & Management Engagement Committee. He is a Board Member and Trustee of the Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR), as well as a member of the ‘Electronic Communications Expert Advisory Panel’ for the Irish Commission for Communications Regulation (ComReg). Jim chairs the Steering Group for the Secure Software Development Partnership (SSDP) of the Technology Strategy Board.

He was a founder member of the Cabinet Office Performance & Innovation Unit in 1999, a former Chief Executive of the DTI Radiocommunications Agency (the UK’s radio spectrum manager 1993-1998) and has held senior positions in Cable & Wireless (Marketing Director C&W Europe 1990-1993), Butler-Cox (Director Vendor Consulting Practice 1987-1990), and British Telecom (Senior Manager International Business Development).


Jim is a Visiting Professor of Electronic Engineering at Sheffield University and an Honorary Doctor of Engineering of that University. He is an External Examiner for the IoD Certificate in Company Direction’. Jim is a Chartered IT Professional and Fellow of the British Computer Society (BCS), where he is chair of the ‘Professionalism Board’ and is a Vice President and Trustee. He is a Chartered Engineer, Fellow of the Institution of Engineering & Technology (IET) and is Chairman of the IET IT Sector Panel. He is also a Fellow of the Royal Society for the Encouragement of the Arts, Commerce and Manufactures and of the Institute of Directors. Jim holds the Diploma in Company Direction from the Institute of Directors and is a Chartered Director.

We should bow to the superior knowledge of these "experts" and accept that the IPCC was right all along, despite the fact that most of these experts are not experts.


Did I mention that the report was paid for by the same university that is being investigated?


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/08/science/earth/08climate.html?_r=1







The Greenroom Wonderful News on Climate Change!

 

[Oddball]

Nothing like an "independent investigation".

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"In his report, British civil servant Sir Muir Russell found that the climategate e-mails don't undermine the basic science behind man-made global warming."

What basic science? Sticking a thermometer on a tarmac or in a cow ass and saying, "Look! Global Warming!!"" is still NOT science

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This reminds me of how Dems circled the wagons around Robert KKK Byrd and for the same reasons. Jones may be a lying scumbag, but he's the Left's lying scumbag and they're trying to use the discredited, phony, homeopathic phrenology "Science" to redistribute American wealth.

 

[konradv]

Walleyes, you Faux Geologist, your people lost this one on the basis of their lies.

Really,

They state very clearly that they didn't review the science.

Claes Johnson on Mathematics and Science: Muir Russell: IPCC Conclusions Not Based on Science

This was completely expected just like we expected the Oxburgh crapola. It only slows down the end. Muir is heavily invested in AGW just like Oxburgh.

We don't lie unlike yourself old fraud, we don't have to

In the end they are doing themselves more harm than if they had just come clean.

So enjoy your little victory for now, just be prepared for the collapse, which I can safely say will come much sooner than your 30 year period of telling us the world is going to end.

An "investigation" not at all unlike the Waco whitewash.

Only invite the malefactors in to testify, then just buy into the story that the man was dead when they showed up on the scene.

Waco?!?! Do you need anymore proof that this is solely a political issue for the deniers? Their tidbits of science are only there as window dressing to cover their real agenda. They actually don't know or care much for the science. It only serves their purpose as a point to confuse the less sophisticated.

 

[Oddball]

Some "independent" investigation.

There were two British investigations into the behavior of scientists at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia (UEA) exposed in leaked emails. Both reports provide no answers, no explanations and are only telling for what they did not ask or do and how they were manipulated. The blatant level of cover up is frightening. These are acts by people who believe they are unaccountable because they have carried out the greatest scam in history with impunity. The degree of cover up in both cases is an arrogant in-your-face statement that we are the power and are not answerable to anyone. Their cover up almost belittles the ones they are investigating.

Lord Oxburgh, a member of the House of Lords, chaired the first investigation. His bias and self-interest is barefaced and makes his appointment shameless in its temerity. He is chairman of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association, which believes carbon capture is potentially a trillion dollar industry. As James Delingpole reports “Oxburgh has paid directorships of two renewable energy companies, and is a paid advisor to Climate Change Capital, the Low Carbon Initiative, Evo-Electric, Fujitsu, and an environmental advisor to Deutsche Bank. Last month we revealed that Oxburgh had failed to declare his directorship of GLOBE, an international network of legislators with ties to the Club of Rome.” It’s as if they said who stands to gain the most by whitewashing what happened. The Club of Rome connection is most telling, because I have documented their role in initiating, identifying, and pursuing CO2 as the basis of capitalist destruction of the planet.

Oxburgh was appointed by UEA whose Pro-Vice Chancellor Professor Trevor Davies said he believed he would lead the investigation “in an utterly objective way.” We now know this means the objectivity was to ensure the false science claiming CO2 was causing global warming would be objectively maintained.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/ball070710.jpg

 

[Oddball]

Really,

They state very clearly that they didn't review the science.

Claes Johnson on Mathematics and Science: Muir Russell: IPCC Conclusions Not Based on Science

This was completely expected just like we expected the Oxburgh crapola. It only slows down the end. Muir is heavily invested in AGW just like Oxburgh.

We don't lie unlike yourself old fraud, we don't have to

In the end they are doing themselves more harm than if they had just come clean.

So enjoy your little victory for now, just be prepared for the collapse, which I can safely say will come much sooner than your 30 year period of telling us the world is going to end.

An "investigation" not at all unlike the Waco whitewash.

Only invite the malefactors in to testify, then just buy into the story that the man was dead when they showed up on the scene.

Waco?!?! Do you need anymore proof that this is solely a political issue for the deniers? Their tidbits of science are only there as window dressing to cover their real agenda. They actually don't know or care much for the science. It only serves their purpose as a point to confuse the less sophisticated.

2a. Freudian Projection

The following is a collection of definitions of projection from orthodox psychology texts. In this system the distinct mechanism of projecting own unconscious or undesirable characteristics onto an opponent is called Freudian Projection.

* "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

* "The externalisation of internal unconscious wishes, desires or emotions on to other people. So, for example, someone who feels subconsciously that they have a powerful latent homosexual drive may not acknowledge this consciously, but it may show in their readiness to suspect others of being homosexual."

* "Attributing one's own undesirable traits to other people or agencies, e.g., an aggressive man accuses other people of being hostile."

* "The individual perceives in others the motive he denies having himself. Thus the cheat is sure that everyone else is dishonest. The would-be adulterer accuses his wife of infidelity."

* "People attribute their own undesirable traits onto others. An individual who unconsciously recognises his or her aggressive tendencies may then see other people acting in an excessively aggressive way."

* "Projection is the opposite defence mechanism to identification. We project our own unpleasant feelings onto someone else and blame them for having thoughts that we really have."

Basic Human Psychology 1: Neurosis, Projection and Freudian Projection

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hmmm...... So that is what you think Russel said

Claes Johnson on Mathematics and Science: Muir Russell: IPCC Conclusions Not Based on Science

Muir Russell: IPCC Conclusions Not Based on Science

Sir Muir Russell summarizes his CRU inquiry as follows:
This was not about forming a view on the content or quality of the scientific work and the conclusions drawn by CRU.
We did not find any evidence of behaviour that might undermine the conclusions of the IPCC assessments.Let's subject these statements to a logical mathematical analysis:
(1) The scientific work was not an issue.
(2) The conclusions of the IPCC assessments were not undermined.
Combining (1) and (2) we conclude that what Muir Russell effectively says is:
IPCC conclusions are not based on scientific work.

Yep that pretty much expalins it all

IPCC conclusions are not based on scientific work.

What Russel stated was that they were not reviewing the science of the CRU or the IPCC, but the actions and methods of the CRU. And they found no problems that would change the scientific conclusions.

BBC: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming?
Phil Jones: Yes, but only just.

 

[westwall]

Well would you look at that. How do you get exhonerated? Why easy! Investigate yourself!!! That new methodology that the AGW cultists have invented to find themselves innocent!

At least the dickhead corporate wonks who pull this shit get somebody else to do it for them to try and make it look legit. These clowns didn't even bother...or maybe they couldn't anyone else who was willing to sell their soul.


Breaking: Phil Jones got to endorse papers for Oxburgh inquiry | Watts Up With That?

I particularly like one of the comments

"The irony
A man accused of lying, cheating, and dishonesty…

…is asked to give his honest opinion"

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh..........and another word to the curious who peek in here trying to make up their minds about all this global warming stuff...................

Ever ask yourself?

Where are all these hysterical global warming religion assholes when we are experiencing weeks and weeks of bitter temperatures due to a prevailing weather pattern? Guess what? Their asses are hiding because they dont want to look like fckukking clowns. Meanwhile...........what's going on in the atmosphere? Well..........the jet stream drops south more than normal and the pattern persists for days or weeks. Sometimes months. All the true believers know this.............but they also know the BIG HEAT WAVE IS COMING!!! Guess what? Thats what we're seeing this summer in the east...........and 100% certianty it'll happen again and again as you age. Why? Its called fcukking weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Just depends on where you happen to be. In the northeast here it was cold as hell from November right up until late May......record cold in some cases, especially in places like the deep south. But where were the k00ks then?????


They KNOW if they get the alarmist sh!t going enough, its the perfect scam. Because they can FULLY count on the arbitrary nature of weather patterns and roll out all the hysterical crap when the time is right. LIKE NOW..........in mid summer when global dynamics are such that we are experiencing significant heat in some places. But not in others..................

Just last weekend they were skiiing in northern California...........the latest the mountain was open that late ever!!! This is the kind of stuff the k00ks never want you to hear about.....................

 

[konradv]

Oh..........and another word to the curious who peek in here trying to make up their minds about all this global warming stuff...................

Ever ask yourself?

Where are all these hysterical global warming religion assholes when we are experiencing weeks and weeks of bitter temperatures due to a prevailing weather pattern? Guess what? Their asses are hiding because they dont want to look like fckukking clowns. Meanwhile...........what's going on in the atmosphere? Well..........the jet stream drops south more than normal and the pattern persists for days or weeks. Sometimes months. All the true believers know this.............but they also know the BIG HEAT WAVE IS COMING!!! Guess what? Thats what we're seeing this summer in the east...........and 100% certianty it'll happen again and again as you age. Why? Its called fcukking weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Just depends on where you happen to be. In the northeast here it was cold as hell from November right up until late May......record cold in some cases, especially in places like the deep south. But where were the k00ks then?????


They KNOW if they get the alarmist sh!t going enough, its the perfect scam. Because they can FULLY count on the arbitrary nature of weather patterns and roll out all the hysterical crap when the time is right. LIKE NOW..........in mid summer when global dynamics are such that we are experiencing significant heat in some places. But not in others..................

Just last weekend they were skiiing in northern California...........the latest the mountain was open that late ever!!! This is the kind of stuff the k00ks never want you to hear about.....................

You really don't understand much do you? What's so tough to understand about, if CO2 traps energy, more CO2 means more trapped energy?

 

[westwall]

Oh..........and another word to the curious who peek in here trying to make up their minds about all this global warming stuff...................

Ever ask yourself?

Where are all these hysterical global warming religion assholes when we are experiencing weeks and weeks of bitter temperatures due to a prevailing weather pattern? Guess what? Their asses are hiding because they dont want to look like fckukking clowns. Meanwhile...........what's going on in the atmosphere? Well..........the jet stream drops south more than normal and the pattern persists for days or weeks. Sometimes months. All the true believers know this.............but they also know the BIG HEAT WAVE IS COMING!!! Guess what? Thats what we're seeing this summer in the east...........and 100% certianty it'll happen again and again as you age. Why? Its called fcukking weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Just depends on where you happen to be. In the northeast here it was cold as hell from November right up until late May......record cold in some cases, especially in places like the deep south. But where were the k00ks then?????


They KNOW if they get the alarmist sh!t going enough, its the perfect scam. Because they can FULLY count on the arbitrary nature of weather patterns and roll out all the hysterical crap when the time is right. LIKE NOW..........in mid summer when global dynamics are such that we are experiencing significant heat in some places. But not in others..................

Just last weekend they were skiiing in northern California...........the latest the mountain was open that late ever!!! This is the kind of stuff the k00ks never want you to hear about.....................

You really don't understand much do you? What's so tough to understand about, if CO2 traps energy, more CO2 means more trapped energy?

Because it clearly doesn't now does it? 30 years of massive CO2 injection into the atmosphere and the temp drops right in line with the normal el Nino, la Nina cycles.
Hate to tell ya little fella, but your religion is wrong.

 

[skookerasbil]

More Environmentalist Fraud!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok...........ready for this??!!!

So........remember Phil Jones? He was the Director of the Climate Resarch Unit at the University of East Anglia. Removed after the Climategate scandal.

Well guess who's back as "Research Director"? Yup...........ahhhhh ( takes long draw on ciggy, Denis Leary style)..........

That would be................ Phil Jones.


Evidently, some investigations and a series of reports exonerated Jones of any scientific wrongdoing. And how did the reports reach this conclusion?????


They asked Jones and his colleagues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not a one question was asked of any of Jones critics or any of the people who were damaged as a result of the Jones method's!!!


CRU’s Tree-Ring Circus - Mark Steyn - National Review Online


LIke you couldnt see this coming?? The study into wrongdoing was a "peer reviewed" study!!!


>>> insert hysterical analogy<<<










For over ten years Ive been saying it. This "man made" global warming stuff? It is fraud of epic proportions.........a hugely methodical hoax using cherry picked "science" to create an enormous illussion!!! And helping perpetuate this illusion are the multitudes of lefties in the media, or course, who have all been part of the hoax since its inception. Dont expect to find this story anywhere in the network or print media s0ns!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh..........and another word to the curious who peek in here trying to make up their minds about all this global warming stuff...................

Ever ask yourself?

Where are all these hysterical global warming religion assholes when we are experiencing weeks and weeks of bitter temperatures due to a prevailing weather pattern? Guess what? Their asses are hiding because they dont want to look like fckukking clowns. Meanwhile...........what's going on in the atmosphere? Well..........the jet stream drops south more than normal and the pattern persists for days or weeks. Sometimes months. All the true believers know this.............but they also know the BIG HEAT WAVE IS COMING!!! Guess what? Thats what we're seeing this summer in the east...........and 100% certianty it'll happen again and again as you age. Why? Its called fcukking weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Just depends on where you happen to be. In the northeast here it was cold as hell from November right up until late May......record cold in some cases, especially in places like the deep south. But where were the k00ks then?????


They KNOW if they get the alarmist sh!t going enough, its the perfect scam. Because they can FULLY count on the arbitrary nature of weather patterns and roll out all the hysterical crap when the time is right. LIKE NOW..........in mid summer when global dynamics are such that we are experiencing significant heat in some places. But not in others..................

Just last weekend they were skiiing in northern California...........the latest the mountain was open that late ever!!! This is the kind of stuff the k00ks never want you to hear about.....................

You really don't understand much do you? What's so tough to understand about, if CO2 traps energy, more CO2 means more trapped energy?

BBC: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming?
Phil Jones: Yes

 

[daveman]

"We investigated ourselves, and are pleased to report that we found no evidence of wrongdoing!"

 

[konradv]

Oh..........and another word to the curious who peek in here trying to make up their minds about all this global warming stuff...................

Ever ask yourself?

Where are all these hysterical global warming religion assholes when we are experiencing weeks and weeks of bitter temperatures due to a prevailing weather pattern? Guess what? Their asses are hiding because they dont want to look like fckukking clowns. Meanwhile...........what's going on in the atmosphere? Well..........the jet stream drops south more than normal and the pattern persists for days or weeks. Sometimes months. All the true believers know this.............but they also know the BIG HEAT WAVE IS COMING!!! Guess what? Thats what we're seeing this summer in the east...........and 100% certianty it'll happen again and again as you age. Why? Its called fcukking weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Just depends on where you happen to be. In the northeast here it was cold as hell from November right up until late May......record cold in some cases, especially in places like the deep south. But where were the k00ks then?????


They KNOW if they get the alarmist sh!t going enough, its the perfect scam. Because they can FULLY count on the arbitrary nature of weather patterns and roll out all the hysterical crap when the time is right. LIKE NOW..........in mid summer when global dynamics are such that we are experiencing significant heat in some places. But not in others..................

Just last weekend they were skiiing in northern California...........the latest the mountain was open that late ever!!! This is the kind of stuff the k00ks never want you to hear about.....................

You really don't understand much do you? What's so tough to understand about, if CO2 traps energy, more CO2 means more trapped energy?

BBC: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming?
Phil Jones: Yes

Is he on your side or isn't he? You're trying to have it both ways. How is THAT not FRAUD?!?!