Communist is the worst idea ever invented and yet it is believed in by millions

[daveman]

The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.

Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.

Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.

Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.

Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.

Communism requires morals. A divine Commune of Heaven is for those who were moral enough for it.

Communism requires the aabandoment of morals and the love of immorality.

You have nothing but appeals to ignorance not any "gospel Truth".

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Guess you didn't read this part:

"It was the voluntary sharing of goods amongst the community."

Voluntary. You want it mandatory with threat of government violence.

Your "theology" has nothing to do with Christ.

Then why do right-wingers insist on work ethic if it is supposed to voluntary?

Charity is supposed to be voluntary, you retard.

Now get a job and stop being a drain on society.

Employment is at the will of either party. Anyone can be bought under Capitalism thus, it is merely underpayment that causes unemployment.

Ahhh. So no one will pay you what you believe you're worth -- so you sit on your ass all day and whine that nobody will give you the Communism you want.

 

[daveman]

Greed is Good under Capitalism. That is your right-wing problem, right-wingers.

How much of what other people earned is your fair share?

Equal protection of the laws is the law. Don't be illegal to the laws, right wingers.

How am I violating any laws?

Meanwhile, how much of what other people earned is your fair share?

How am I advocating for a share of the earnings of others? You don't have to work in an at-will employment State.

To pay for your moral society. At least make an effort to read what you yourself write. Sheesh.

We have to pay for it anyway. Why do You believe Congress is delegated the Social Power to Tax?

To pay for the few government actions mandated by the Constitution. Ever read it? It doesn't say what you've been told it says.

The constitution really is not that relevant since all social programs, like schools, food programs, housing subsidies, ADC, disability, etc., used to be and should be local.
The problem was that when federal income tax became legal in 1913,
Then the feds had all the money, so they took over everything.

{...

Understanding the 16th Amendment​

To counteract the defeat, the government drafted the 16th Amendment, which states, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."6 The amendment was ratified in 1913, clearing the legal hurdles to an income tax. Unsurprisingly, an income tax was levied that very year.2

The legislation was again taken up in front of the Supreme Court. On January 24, 1916, the court ruled that income taxes were now legal—due to the constitutional changes.7
...}

All charity used to be local and voluntary.

Then Democrats discovered they could buy votes with it.

How unlike the right-wing who "buy" votes with bigotry and walls?

You've already established you're not bright. You don't have to keep proving it.

Thank goodness a right-winger is saying it or I might take it seriously.

Oh, child, I never expect you to take me seriously. You're a Communist, and therefore dumb as a rock.

 

[daveman]

The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.0

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.

One thing is for sure, it's not as bad as billions of people believing there is a god and torturing the minds of little kids with threats of fire and sins.

How's that for a comparison son?
Get a bit of that into you.

You sure are a whiny little bitch.

That could well be but the fact remains, I am right and you know it.

I have no obligation to validate your irrational hatred.

I don't care what you do. I am right and you know it. Get over it you sook.

I don't know that you're right. You're making that up, because you need validation.

How's that working out for you, kid?

Like th existence of God, I know there is no God because no one can prove there is. I don't need anyone to validate my opinion. My opinion, after research, is good enough for me. If you don't like it, get a ticket stand in line preparing to kiss my ads.

No, child, I will NOT validate your overinflated ego. Stop begging. It's pathetic.

I don't care what you think. I will state the facts if it drives you crazy and you will never stop me. Its nothing to do with ego which is your pathetic excuse.
Get your evidence of God or shut you ignorant mouth.

Angry little boy. I have no desire to silence you. I am not a leftist.

 

[danielpalos]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!

True witness bearing and dumbing down enough for the right-wing is work.

Yes, that's what lazy leftists tell themselves: You're "raising awareness" and you don't have to get your ass off the couch...and you should get paid for it.

Communists are the most useless people ever.

I resort to the fewest fallacies; why can't You right-wingers? Not equal for pay purposes.

You actually believe that horseshit. That's what makes you a Useful Idiot, though your utility is certainly questionable.

I didn't before I started arguing with the right wing. Thanks, right wingers.

 

[daveman]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!

True witness bearing and dumbing down enough for the right-wing is work.

Yes, that's what lazy leftists tell themselves: You're "raising awareness" and you don't have to get your ass off the couch...and you should get paid for it.

Communists are the most useless people ever.

I resort to the fewest fallacies; why can't You right-wingers? Not equal for pay purposes.

You actually believe that horseshit. That's what makes you a Useful Idiot, though your utility is certainly questionable.

I didn't before I started arguing with the right wing. Thanks, right wingers.

Typical. Refusing to take responsibility for your own failures. Yep, you're a Commie.

 

[danielpalos]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.

Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.

Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?

Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.

If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.

Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?

Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.

 

[danielpalos]

Greed is Good under Capitalism. That is your right-wing problem, right-wingers.

How much of what other people earned is your fair share?

Equal protection of the laws is the law. Don't be illegal to the laws, right wingers.

How am I violating any laws?

Meanwhile, how much of what other people earned is your fair share?

How am I advocating for a share of the earnings of others? You don't have to work in an at-will employment State.

To pay for your moral society. At least make an effort to read what you yourself write. Sheesh.

We have to pay for it anyway. Why do You believe Congress is delegated the Social Power to Tax?

To pay for the few government actions mandated by the Constitution. Ever read it? It doesn't say what you've been told it says.

The constitution really is not that relevant since all social programs, like schools, food programs, housing subsidies, ADC, disability, etc., used to be and should be local.
The problem was that when federal income tax became legal in 1913,
Then the feds had all the money, so they took over everything.

{...

Understanding the 16th Amendment​

To counteract the defeat, the government drafted the 16th Amendment, which states, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."6 The amendment was ratified in 1913, clearing the legal hurdles to an income tax. Unsurprisingly, an income tax was levied that very year.2

The legislation was again taken up in front of the Supreme Court. On January 24, 1916, the court ruled that income taxes were now legal—due to the constitutional changes.7
...}

All charity used to be local and voluntary.

Then Democrats discovered they could buy votes with it.

How unlike the right-wing who "buy" votes with bigotry and walls?

You've already established you're not bright. You don't have to keep proving it.

Thank goodness a right-winger is saying it or I might take it seriously.

Oh, child, I never expect you to take me seriously. You're a Communist, and therefore dumb as a rock.

How unfortunate for You, that you need valid arguments instead of only fallacy (of argument ad hominem). But, you are on the right-wing.

 

[danielpalos]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!

True witness bearing and dumbing down enough for the right-wing is work.

Yes, that's what lazy leftists tell themselves: You're "raising awareness" and you don't have to get your ass off the couch...and you should get paid for it.

Communists are the most useless people ever.

I resort to the fewest fallacies; why can't You right-wingers? Not equal for pay purposes.

You actually believe that horseshit. That's what makes you a Useful Idiot, though your utility is certainly questionable.

I didn't before I started arguing with the right wing. Thanks, right wingers.

Typical. Refusing to take responsibility for your own failures. Yep, you're a Commie.

I don't want to take all of the credit since I could not have done it without those of the opposing view.

 

[daveman]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.

Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.

Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?

Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.

If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.

Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?

Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.

"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt!

 

[daveman]

Greed is Good under Capitalism. That is your right-wing problem, right-wingers.

How much of what other people earned is your fair share?

Equal protection of the laws is the law. Don't be illegal to the laws, right wingers.

How am I violating any laws?

Meanwhile, how much of what other people earned is your fair share?

How am I advocating for a share of the earnings of others? You don't have to work in an at-will employment State.

To pay for your moral society. At least make an effort to read what you yourself write. Sheesh.

We have to pay for it anyway. Why do You believe Congress is delegated the Social Power to Tax?

To pay for the few government actions mandated by the Constitution. Ever read it? It doesn't say what you've been told it says.

The constitution really is not that relevant since all social programs, like schools, food programs, housing subsidies, ADC, disability, etc., used to be and should be local.
The problem was that when federal income tax became legal in 1913,
Then the feds had all the money, so they took over everything.

{...

Understanding the 16th Amendment​

To counteract the defeat, the government drafted the 16th Amendment, which states, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."6 The amendment was ratified in 1913, clearing the legal hurdles to an income tax. Unsurprisingly, an income tax was levied that very year.2

The legislation was again taken up in front of the Supreme Court. On January 24, 1916, the court ruled that income taxes were now legal—due to the constitutional changes.7
...}

All charity used to be local and voluntary.

Then Democrats discovered they could buy votes with it.

How unlike the right-wing who "buy" votes with bigotry and walls?

You've already established you're not bright. You don't have to keep proving it.

Thank goodness a right-winger is saying it or I might take it seriously.

Oh, child, I never expect you to take me seriously. You're a Communist, and therefore dumb as a rock.

How unfortunate for You, that you need valid arguments instead of only fallacy (of argument ad hominem). But, you are on the right-wing.

I enjoy valid arguments. NOTE: You pouting and stamping your feet is not a valid argument.

 

[danielpalos]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.

Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.

Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?

Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.

If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.

Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?

Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.

"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt!

The ignorance of the right-wing is astounding.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

It is accomplished via the social-ism of Government.

 

[Colin norris]

The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.0

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.

One thing is for sure, it's not as bad as billions of people believing there is a god and torturing the minds of little kids with threats of fire and sins.

How's that for a comparison son?
Get a bit of that into you.

You sure are a whiny little bitch.

That could well be but the fact remains, I am right and you know it.

I have no obligation to validate your irrational hatred.

I don't care what you do. I am right and you know it. Get over it you sook.

I don't know that you're right. You're making that up, because you need validation.

How's that working out for you, kid?

Like th existence of God, I know there is no God because no one can prove there is. I don't need anyone to validate my opinion. My opinion, after research, is good enough for me. If you don't like it, get a ticket stand in line preparing to kiss my ads.

No, child, I will NOT validate your overinflated ego. Stop begging. It's pathetic.

I don't care what you think. I will state the facts if it drives you crazy and you will never stop me. Its nothing to do with ego which is your pathetic excuse.
Get your evidence of God or shut you ignorant mouth.

Angry little boy. I have no desire to silence you. I am not a leftist.

I'm angry????
You are playing this thread right into my arms, and like a coyote at a dead deer, you cant stay away. You determined to have the last say.
Every time you reply I get another whack at you. Keep going.

 

[Rigby5]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.

Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.

Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?

Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.

If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.

Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?

Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.

"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt!

No sure, but it seems to me that society has advantages, and if one opts into society in order to get those advantages, then one has to accept the costs associated.
If you go back 5000 years, people were gladly paying taxes for the social services they got.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Even Stalin had great faults and great virtues. He played the greatest role among mortal humans in defeating Nazism.

Satan defeating the devil.

He was more evil than Hitler.

No! The total number of people who were
1) executed (800,000)
2) died in GULAG (1.4 million)
3) died in resettlement (1.1 million)
was 3.3 million. This is horrible. This is much less then over 20 million Jews, POWs, and other civilians killed by the Nazis.

Wrong on both.

The nazis killed about 10 million in the holocaust. The communists under lening and stalin murdered twice as many in gthe gulag and by execution and in the deliberately engineered Holodormor.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communis merely requires totalitarian force. Every prison or slave plantation is communist.

No. Leon Trotsky tried to build an Egalitarian Society based on Positive Rights.

In Scandinavia they did build a Welfare State.

Yes he was trying to buold a slave state like all communists do.

The scandanavian nagtions are capitalists.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.

Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.

Read some history of the Roman Empire.

Only the Religious seem to be able to make it work. Not enough morals to go around among the secular laity?

Face it, kid. You fucked up. There is no Biblical justification for the tyranny you want.

If you had enough reading comprehension you would understand it take morals for that not right-wing fantasy.

Morals to steal from people?

You do know words have meanings, right? You don't get to make up new ones?

Only right-wingers allege that. The rest of us know that the social power to Tax is delegated to our representatives to Government.

"Social power".

No such thing.

But it's HILARIOUS you believe you get to make up definitions! How insanely intellectually bankrupt!

No sure, but it seems to me that society has advantages, and if one opts into society in order to get those advantages, then one has to accept the costs associated.
If you go back 5000 years, people were gladly paying taxes for the social services they got.

We have massive evidence that they hated taxation as they should. Society is only a concept and taxes no one, governments tax people.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Stalin was a communist. He was not a capitalist,

What's indeed not a fact but an interesting question. What is the role of party bigwigs in a "part"-y which controls everyone and everything and which is totalitarian under control of only one Trump? How fits this with any theory at all?

The basic idea of communism "property is theft" - better to say "property is not self-made" - is for sure not really wrong in case of some few hundred families in the world. But this some few hundred families own more than 90% of everything.

I fear whether someone likes this or not: We will need a new system of economy in the world. 100-150 years ago most people were farmers and were able to produce everything - with hard work - what they needed. In the world today it is impossible to survive without money. And it becomes more and more diffcult not to become a slave of others and to seed an own money tree, so no one has to die on hunger, because he is able to buy food.

The role of one leader is precisely what is called for in communism as it develops. Marx clearly stated that a dictagtorship is required for a while.

No idea what Marx said - after 50 pages I closed the boring book "Das Kapital". I know he said for example "I am not a Marxist". And sentences like "the dictatorship of the proletariat (=working class)" is not the dictatorship of a single person. and whether a tyrant with a slaveholder mentality is a Communist or a Capitalist is the same to me.

The dictatorship of the proletariate does not have to be limited to dictatorship by one person but that is what it refers to.

Dictatorship is dictatorship whether or not one hangs a qualifier on it or not.

You answered too fast and too flat.
Here again what I wrote:

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No idea what Marx said - after 50 pages I closed the boring book "Das Kapital". I know he said for example "I am not a Marxist". And sentences like "the dictatorship of the proletariat (=working class)" is not the dictatorship of a single person. and whether a tyrant with a slaveholder mentality is a Communist or a Capitalist is the same to me. Nevertheless it is far from justice to give everything to some few people and nothing to billions.

By the way - do you know the text of the Commie anthem "Die Internationale". When the socialist state GDR still existed I wondered myselve often about why the dictators of this tyranny did not arrest everyone who sang this song.


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Dictatorship of the proletariate is indeed the dictatorship of one person.

That's without logic.

Any dictatorship could be more than one person such as a regime or junta but in general it is one person and what marx meant which is why Stalion was a communist following the plan even if slightly tweaked.

Short: I am not a Commie and Capitalism means also nothing to me. No idea what you try to criticize. It is nevertheless still far from justice to give everything to some few people and nothing to billions.

It is perfectly logical. One dictator can easily grow or emerge out of the proletariate class.

Wealth and the making of wealth has nothing to do with justice and wealth is not given.

Inequality of wealth and income is in fact perfectly just and harms NO ONE.

Depends on if it is earned or not.
The reality is that most wealth is not earned and then income inequality is not just and is harmful.
For example, I own a bunch of rental properties, that I could lie and say I am providing a service for people who can not otherwise have a place to live.
But the reality is all I did was come up with a low down payment and credit rating, that not only allowed me to buy the property, but then got the tenant to pay for it.
The mortgage is lower than what I can get in rent, and the tax exemptions, like for mortgage interest, maintenance, etc., are all gravy.
Every place I have ever worked, the employees get less than a third what they actually produce.
The only reason the owners get the major share is that they have a monopoly on the capital needed to procure the means of production. And it is not at all clear they deserve nearly as much as they take for a return on their risk.
And the problem is that the investors with the monopoly on capital are short sighted and ignorant, not caring what harm they do.
Like almost all the railroads went under, not because they were not important or making money, but because new high tech stocks and companies seemed like a better investment, even though there is nothing more important to the country than railroads.
They are the cleanest, safest, and could be fastest means of transportation, both for materials and people.

That is not the reality at all it is a fallacy.

The fact is most wealth is indeed earned.

Every place you have worked the employees get what they agree to.

The fact is not one but of harm is caused by inequality of wealth. People have been bitching about it for years but npo one has ever produced a shred of evideence that it causes harm.

 

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The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.

They got it from the Bible.

This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!

True witness bearing and dumbing down enough for the right-wing is work.

Yes, that's what lazy leftists tell themselves: You're "raising awareness" and you don't have to get your ass off the couch...and you should get paid for it.

Communists are the most useless people ever.

I resort to the fewest fallacies; why can't You right-wingers? Not equal for pay purposes.

You post fallacies exclusively

 

[Soupnazi630]

Why do Progressives never have a bad word to say about Communism or mankind's most prolific mass murders, all Communists?

Because communism has never killed anyone.
Stalin was not a communist, but a capitalist bank robber, who infiltrated the Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists, killed them all, took over, and implemented state capitalism instead.

Look at the characteristics. Communism is collaborative, cooperative, communal, and the way humans normally treat each other in small social groups like families, clubs, tribes, etc.
Those who think communism implies a large centralized state, simply do not know anything about communism.
And what Stalin implemented was not at all collaborative, cooperative, communal, or voluntary.
It was forced, state, capitalism, with purely a profit motive for the ruling elite.

Communism has killed un toldf tens of millions.

Stalin was a communist. He was not a capitalist,

Communism is totalitarian and never cooperative or communial or cllobaorative,

It is you who grapss nothing about communism and is ignorant of it.

Stalin wasn't really a Communist. Do you think Stalin gave a damn about Communism at all? What did Stalin do that was either Communist or pushing for Communism?

He was a communist through and through. he etablished the comintern specifically for the purpose of spreading communism world wide just as Marx required communism to work. He forced the entire nation to work and live in accordance with his interpretation of Marx which is precisely what the dictatorship of the proletariate is meant to do.

Well, the Comintern was established in 1919 before Stalin was a major force. Stalin was on the delegate's list, but it's not known if he actually went.

Stalin was one of those guys who'd use the system he was in in order to gain the power he wanted. Nothing seems to suggest he was a Communist.

Even the early Communists in Russia thought he might be an agent provocateur.

Everything proves he was a communist inclluding his own admission.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.

Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.

Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.

Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.

Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.

Communism requires morals. A divine Commune of Heaven is for those who were moral enough for it.

Communism requires the aabandoment of morals and the love of immorality.

You have nothing but appeals to ignorance not any "gospel Truth".

Christian communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Guess you didn't read this part:

"It was the voluntary sharing of goods amongst the community."

Voluntary. You want it mandatory with threat of government violence.

Your "theology" has nothing to do with Christ.

Then why do right-wingers insist on work ethic if it is supposed to voluntary?

Charity is supposed to be voluntary, you retard.

Now get a job and stop being a drain on society.

Employment is at the will of either party. Anyone can be bought under Capitalism thus, it is merely underpayment that causes unemployment.

It is illegal to buy people proving once again you are a liar posting fallacies and you know nothing of economics.