Communist is the worst idea ever invented and yet it is believed in by millions

Here's the worst part: These folks really believe this.
What's not to believe?
What is communism, specifically?

Well what is it Mac? Let's pretend that hundreds of millions didn't die under communist rule.
You really don't know what communism is, and yet you're terrified that it will happen here?

Does that really sound like a reasonable position to you?
It won't happen here, but that won't stop hard leftists from making the rest of us miserable by trying....again and again....like cockroaches....they will never ever ever ever....

...ever ever ever...

(20 minutes later)

....ever ever ever quit trying to make it happen!!!!


EVER.
lol. Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Y'all allege to hate communism and socialism but have no problem requiring a social Work Ethic for the Poor merely to help Capitalists make more profit.
Today's cronyism is not capitalism
Neither is right-wingers requiring a work ethic in an at-will employment State unless they are communists in disguise.
It's pea brain farted
Work ethics are a form of white supremacy reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Right wingers don't really really believe in Individual Liberty unless guns are involved? Only Communists do that.
Name a Communist country that protected individual liberty.
Did you miss the point? Only communists and right-wingers have a problem respecting Individual Liberty.
Then you admit you're a Communist.

I mean, it's not like anyone's surprised.
I am not the one with the problem with the equality of equal protection of the laws. Only tyrants have that problem.
You're drunk, aren't you?
You must be more drunk.
Not at all. Meanwhile, you never have explained how rightwingers are violating Equal Protection laws.

You ever going to give that a shot?
You must be drunk since you didn't get it the first time. It takes more time and more effort to have to dumb it down for the clueless and Causeless on the Right-Wing.
You never explained it. Throw your little tantrum elsewhere, kid.
 
how much of what other people earned is your fair share?
Easy question, none of it is your fair share
If you don't earn it, you don't deserve it
Winner! But you're triggering the leftists.
Not at all. Right-wingers merely show their true moral values. Corporate welfare has even paid multimillion-dollar bonuses. Yet, the hypocritical right-wing only complains (the most) about the Poor.
"How much of what other people earned is your fair share?"

You keep running away from that question, kid.
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.0

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.

One thing is for sure, it's not as bad as billions of people believing there is a god and torturing the minds of little kids with threats of fire and sins.

How's that for a comparison son?
Get a bit of that into you.
You sure are a whiny little bitch.

That could well be but the fact remains, I am right and you know it.
I have no obligation to validate your irrational hatred.

I don't care what you do. I am right and you know it. Get over it you sook.
I don't know that you're right. You're making that up, because you need validation.

How's that working out for you, kid?

Like th existence of God, I know there is no God because no one can prove there is. I don't need anyone to validate my opinion. My opinion, after research, is good enough for me. If you don't like it, get a ticket stand in line preparing to kiss my ads.
No, child, I will NOT validate your overinflated ego. Stop begging. It's pathetic.
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
These nations are not examples of Communism, they are examples of Totalitarianism.
There never was a Communist nation and there never will be one.

Correct as in communism goes against human nature.

It sounds great......'from each according to his ability to each according to his need' ----but has never worked anywhere. Only the gullible and overly idealistic (academics and students) buy into it.
There are three types of people who believe in Communism:

1. As you say, the gullible and idealistic, those who have no clue about human nature, who crave a Utopian solution to what they perceive as injustices, and who unquestioningly swallow the indoctrination.

2. The lazy who don't want to work, and think the State will provide all their needs.

3. Those who know about the murderous history of Communism and are okay with it, because they believe they will have power over their fellow man. These people are evil.

We have some of each on USMB.
Yes there are and they are truly evil.

March 3 2018
U.S. President Donald Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping Saturday after the ruling Communist party announced it was eliminating the two-term limit for the presidency, paving the way for Xi to serve indefinitely.

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida.
“And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

The Trump cult cheering for communist and communism.
Are you expecting me to say, "Oh, since TRUMP said it, it has to be right!"?

Because praising totalitarianism is wrong, I don't care who does it.

Now, predictably, you will screech NUH UH YOU DO TO BELEIVE IT.

Surprise me. Don't.
 
The funniest thing about all this is that, because these right wing morons couldn't define "communism" if their lives depended on it, they could end up in an embarrassing cult supporting communism without even realizing it.
Define Communism, and explain why Trump supporters are Communists.
Does the shoe fit?
No. Indy ran away from the question. Since you opened your yap, you get a shot at it.
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.

No, it's an abominable thing. That's what they all say....."if we can get our people in there this time it will work". Hundreds of millions have died under this murderous type of rule.
Why do the Religious still try? Two thousand years and worse progress than true Communists.
Where has "true Communism" ever been tried?
Wherever social morals for free are matters of principle. Some of the Religious practice communal living.
They do -- strictly voluntarily.

When people are forced to live communally by threat of violence, that's not socially moral, is it? Even if you do believes it's for their own good.
It is not socially moral to enforce Immigration laws in a bigoted manner and is why there is no Immigration clause in our federal Constitution. Be legal to express Law not immoral hypocrites (unto God) right-wingers.
Ahhh, I think I get it now.

You believe Congress has the unlimited power to tax.

On the other hand, you believe Congress has no power to make and enforce immigration law.

Take your time explaining the screaming dichotomy. I can tell you haven't given this any thought. At all.

Matter of fact, don't even bother. You can't. You just mindlessly repeat what the Democratic Party tells you to. And what the Democratic Party wants is good for the Democratic Party, but disastrous for the nation.

You're a good Party supporter.

That's not a compliment, by the way.
 
The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.
They got it from the Bible.
This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.
Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.
Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.
Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.
The State is the Communist's god. What the State says is reality -- even if it completely contradicts what the State said yesterday or the Communist's own senses. If the State says the sky is purple at high noon, the Communist believes it without question.
 
The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.
They got it from the Bible.
That is not a defense of slavery, nor does it lend legitamacy to an evil idea.

But no they did not. There is no such scripture.
Slavery is not about free-market Capitalism.

Nobody takes right-wingers seriously about any "gospel Truth". Appeals to ignorance is all right-wingers are best at.

All who believed were together and had all things in common; 45 they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. ... Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common. ... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.[25]

— Acts 2:44–45, Acts 4:32–35
Please point out where the Roman government mandated this sharing.

Again: Communism can work only in small communities and strictly voluntarily.
 

Stalin was a communist. He was not a capitalist,

What's indeed not a fact but an interesting question. What is the role of party bigwigs in a "part"-y which controls everyone and everything and which is totalitarian under control of only one Trump? How fits this with any theory at all?

The basic idea of communism "property is theft" - better to say "property is not self-made" - is for sure not really wrong in case of some few hundred families in the world. But this some few hundred families own more than 90% of everything.

I fear whether someone likes this or not: We will need a new system of economy in the world. 100-150 years ago most people were farmers and were able to produce everything - with hard work - what they needed. In the world today it is impossible to survive without money. And it becomes more and more diffcult not to become a slave of others and to seed an own money tree, so no one has to die on hunger, because he is able to buy food.
The role of one leader is precisely what is called for in communism as it develops. Marx clearly stated that a dictagtorship is required for a while.

No idea what Marx said - after 50 pages I closed the boring book "Das Kapital". I know he said for example "I am not a Marxist". And sentences like "the dictatorship of the proletariat (=working class)" is not the dictatorship of a single person. and whether a tyrant with a slaveholder mentality is a Communist or a Capitalist is the same to me.
The dictatorship of the proletariate does not have to be limited to dictatorship by one person but that is what it refers to.

Dictatorship is dictatorship whether or not one hangs a qualifier on it or not.
You answered too fast and too flat.
Here again what I wrote:

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No idea what Marx said - after 50 pages I closed the boring book "Das Kapital". I know he said for example "I am not a Marxist". And sentences like "the dictatorship of the proletariat (=working class)" is not the dictatorship of a single person. and whether a tyrant with a slaveholder mentality is a Communist or a Capitalist is the same to me. Nevertheless it is far from justice to give everything to some few people and nothing to billions.

By the way - do you know the text of the Commie anthem "Die Internationale". When the socialist state GDR still existed I wondered myselve often about why the dictators of this tyranny did not arrest everyone who sang this song.


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Dictatorship of the proletariate is indeed the dictatorship of one person.

That's without logic.
Any dictatorship could be more than one person such as a regime or junta but in general it is one person and what marx meant which is why Stalion was a communist following the plan even if slightly tweaked.

Short: I am not a Commie and Capitalism means also nothing to me. No idea what you try to criticize. It is nevertheless still far from justice to give everything to some few people and nothing to billions.

It is perfectly logical. One dictator can easily grow or emerge out of the proletariate class.

Wealth and the making of wealth has nothing to do with justice and wealth is not given.

Inequality of wealth and income is in fact perfectly just and harms NO ONE.


Depends on if it is earned or not.
The reality is that most wealth is not earned and then income inequality is not just and is harmful.
For example, I own a bunch of rental properties, that I could lie and say I am providing a service for people who can not otherwise have a place to live.
But the reality is all I did was come up with a low down payment and credit rating, that not only allowed me to buy the property, but then got the tenant to pay for it.
The mortgage is lower than what I can get in rent, and the tax exemptions, like for mortgage interest, maintenance, etc., are all gravy.
Every place I have ever worked, the employees get less than a third what they actually produce.
The only reason the owners get the major share is that they have a monopoly on the capital needed to procure the means of production. And it is not at all clear they deserve nearly as much as they take for a return on their risk.
And the problem is that the investors with the monopoly on capital are short sighted and ignorant, not caring what harm they do.
Like almost all the railroads went under, not because they were not important or making money, but because new high tech stocks and companies seemed like a better investment, even though there is nothing more important to the country than railroads.
They are the cleanest, safest, and could be fastest means of transportation, both for materials and people.
 
Greed is Good under Capitalism. That is your right-wing problem, right-wingers.
How much of what other people earned is your fair share?
Equal protection of the laws is the law. Don't be illegal to the laws, right wingers.
How am I violating any laws?

Meanwhile, how much of what other people earned is your fair share?
How am I advocating for a share of the earnings of others? You don't have to work in an at-will employment State.
To pay for your moral society. At least make an effort to read what you yourself write. Sheesh.
We have to pay for it anyway. Why do You believe Congress is delegated the Social Power to Tax?
To pay for the few government actions mandated by the Constitution. Ever read it? It doesn't say what you've been told it says.

The constitution really is not that relevant since all social programs, like schools, food programs, housing subsidies, ADC, disability, etc., used to be and should be local.
The problem was that when federal income tax became legal in 1913,
Then the feds had all the money, so they took over everything.

{...

Understanding the 16th Amendment​

To counteract the defeat, the government drafted the 16th Amendment, which states, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."6 The amendment was ratified in 1913, clearing the legal hurdles to an income tax. Unsurprisingly, an income tax was levied that very year.2

The legislation was again taken up in front of the Supreme Court. On January 24, 1916, the court ruled that income taxes were now legal—due to the constitutional changes.7
...}
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.
Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.
Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.
Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.
Communism requires morals. A divine Commune of Heaven is for those who were moral enough for it.
Communism requires the aabandoment of morals and the love of immorality.
You have nothing but appeals to ignorance not any "gospel Truth".

Guess you didn't read this part:

"It was the voluntary sharing of goods amongst the community."

Voluntary. You want it mandatory with threat of government violence.

Your "theology" has nothing to do with Christ.
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.
Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.
Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.
Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.
Communism requires morals. A divine Commune of Heaven is for those who were moral enough for it.
Communism requires the aabandoment of morals and the love of immorality.
You have nothing but appeals to ignorance not any "gospel Truth".

I do not appea to you and you are the most ignorant person on this forum.
ypu do not even grasp what appeal to ignorance means.
Fortunately for me, you only have the practice of the abomination of hypocrisy (unto God) while alleging you are for morals. Right-Wing modus operandi is clear for everyone to see in the public domain.
Morals came from man not god you ignorant fool.

You are the right wing uneducated fool
lol. I cited a Holy Bible.
You cited Wikipedia. And you even got it wrong.
 
Name some American communists, and what makes you think that about them.
The Black Lies Matter founder describes herself as a Marxist

Bummer, huh?

That's the best you can do?

Okay.
Did you donate to BLM? Do you feel stupid that she bought mansions for herself with your donations?

You should feel stupid.
 
Name some American communists, and what makes you think that about them.
The Black Lies Matter founder describes herself as a Marxist

Bummer, huh?

That's the best you can do?

Okay.
Did you donate to BLM? Do you feel stupid that she bought mansions for herself with your donations?

You should feel stupid.
I don't support the group. I don't support reactionary organizations.

Attacking out of pure arrogant ignorance: You're a fine Trumpster.
 
Greed is Good under Capitalism. That is your right-wing problem, right-wingers.
How much of what other people earned is your fair share?
Equal protection of the laws is the law. Don't be illegal to the laws, right wingers.
How am I violating any laws?

Meanwhile, how much of what other people earned is your fair share?
How am I advocating for a share of the earnings of others? You don't have to work in an at-will employment State.
To pay for your moral society. At least make an effort to read what you yourself write. Sheesh.
We have to pay for it anyway. Why do You believe Congress is delegated the Social Power to Tax?
To pay for the few government actions mandated by the Constitution. Ever read it? It doesn't say what you've been told it says.

The constitution really is not that relevant since all social programs, like schools, food programs, housing subsidies, ADC, disability, etc., used to be and should be local.
The problem was that when federal income tax became legal in 1913,
Then the feds had all the money, so they took over everything.

{...

Understanding the 16th Amendment​

To counteract the defeat, the government drafted the 16th Amendment, which states, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."6 The amendment was ratified in 1913, clearing the legal hurdles to an income tax. Unsurprisingly, an income tax was levied that very year.2

The legislation was again taken up in front of the Supreme Court. On January 24, 1916, the court ruled that income taxes were now legal—due to the constitutional changes.7
...}
All charity used to be local and voluntary.

Then Democrats discovered they could buy votes with it.
 
Name some American communists, and what makes you think that about them.
The Black Lies Matter founder describes herself as a Marxist

Bummer, huh?

That's the best you can do?

Okay.
Did you donate to BLM? Do you feel stupid that she bought mansions for herself with your donations?

You should feel stupid.
I don't support the group. I don't support reactionary organizations.

Attacking out of pure arrogant ignorance: You're a fine Trumpster.
By that criteria, you're a Trumpster, too.

Or is it different when you do it?
 
Name some American communists, and what makes you think that about them.
The Black Lies Matter founder describes herself as a Marxist

Bummer, huh?

That's the best you can do?

Okay.
Did you donate to BLM? Do you feel stupid that she bought mansions for herself with your donations?

You should feel stupid.
I don't support the group. I don't support reactionary organizations.

Attacking out of pure arrogant ignorance: You're a fine Trumpster.
By that criteria, you're a Trumpster, too.

Or is it different when you do it?
By that one, simple criteria, yes.

I know how simple you guys need this.
 
The basic idea is not about property calling it theft or not self made. The basic idea is " from each according to his ability and to each according to his need". This is the same basic idea behind slavery which is why it is no coincidence that every communist nation is a slave state.
They got it from the Bible.
This part's good, too:

“For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: ‘The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.’”
2nd Thessalonians 3:10

Get to work, Comrade!
True witness bearing and dumbing down enough for the right-wing is work.
 
The fall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries did not spell the end of Communism. It clings on in Cuba, North Vietnam and in Venezuela.

However, the true threat comes from within the United States.

Communists are recruited in college or university through front groups that pretend to be concerned with other issues. The two most prominent Communist front group today is Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

However, very few Communists will admit to being Communists. One of the first thing a new Communist is taught is to lie and always deny being a Communist.

In the United States, Communists have infiltrated and now control a large percentage of our institutions. The Communists call this the "Long March Through the Institutions."

Communists take advantage of the fact that most Americans do not concern themselves that much with political issues, but devote themselves to career and family. Communists will always put Communism above all else, and will devote more time to their cause than anyone else will devote to any other cause.

The stolen election of 2020 was a Communist takeover. For the first time in American history, we do not have a democratically elected government. We are ruled by Communists who will do whatever it takes to ensure that a fair election is never again held in the United States.
Pure communism is a beautiful thing. Humans tend to fuck it up.
Pure communism is an evil thing. They do not fuck it up they practice it as designed.
Not at all. It merely requires social morals for free not the Expense of Government on Earth.
Communism is immoral as designed and requires the abandonment of all morals.
The State is the Communist's god. What the State says is reality -- even if it completely contradicts what the State said yesterday or the Communist's own senses. If the State says the sky is purple at high noon, the Communist believes it without question.
Right-wing cultists are worse.
 

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