Communist California to require Solar Panels on all new homes

[francoHFW]

Then why is the temperature in Winnipeg Canada the same as in Las Vegas Nevada?

I don't know. Nobody does. We simply don't understand enough about the planet yet alone think we can control weather or climate.

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

It doesn't matter. It's a hoax as far as I (and many) are concerned. If you want to believe in it, go right ahead, but don't have your politicians forcing me to spend money on YOUR hoax. It's so anti-American.

Anti greedy idiot Mega rich GOP American you mean...

 

[bripat9643]

The difference of course is that hurricanes, earthquakes, appliances are all real things. Global Warming is not real, it's a theory. And it's ridiculous to force people to buy things based on an unproven theory. It's like saying all new homes should have the largest room reserved as a church in case Jesus Christ comes back.

It's just a theory and a belief.

Then why is the temperature in Winnipeg Canada the same as in Las Vegas Nevada?

I don't know. Nobody does. We simply don't understand enough about the planet yet alone think we can control weather or climate.

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then why is the temperature in Winnipeg Canada the same as in Las Vegas Nevada?

I don't know. Nobody does. We simply don't understand enough about the planet yet alone think we can control weather or climate.

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

What he doesn't realize is oceans warm up and cool down all the time. It's a natural process. When oceans get too warm, there are hurricanes which cools down the water. Hurricane have been decreasing the last several years:

 

[francoHFW]

Then why is the temperature in Winnipeg Canada the same as in Las Vegas Nevada?

I don't know. Nobody does. We simply don't understand enough about the planet yet alone think we can control weather or climate.

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming... Pages and pages of scientific statistics, not BS for the chumps...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't know. Nobody does. We simply don't understand enough about the planet yet alone think we can control weather or climate.

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

 

[francoHFW]

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

I will go with 98% of climatologists over dupe common sense everyday. So there has always been 9 billion GD people spewing gas forever? Please

 

[WEATHER53]

Undersea volcanos are warming the oceans

 

[Flopper]

WTG Communists. Wiping out the Middle Class in California. It's so sad and ironic that the Leftists who supposedly despise the Rich, are only hurting the Non-Rich with this awful legislation. Middle Class folks will struggle bigtime to handle the costs of adding solar panels.

California is headed for disaster. Only the very rich and very poor will be welcome there. The Middle Class, which pays the bills, will no longer be welcome. They'll be forced to leave the state. California will eventually resemble Communist messes like Venezuela, Cuba, and so on. It's very sad.

liberalism is a failed ideology, never works, never will. What's amazing is that the liberal mind is unable to comprehend that simple truth.

This type of awful legislation only hurts the folks the Left claims they're fighting for. The very rich can easily afford the added costs of solar panels. It's the Middle Class that won't be able to afford it. The Communists are killing the California Golden Goose.

In California the median price of a new home is about a half million in most cities. The cost of a solar system as required by the legislation will be about $10,000 to $12,000 but will result in utility bill savings. Anybody that can afford a new half million home can certain afford $10,000 up front for solar particular since they will be getting a payback in the form of lower electrici bills.

I don't see that the state forcing new construction to include solar is going to be a huge burden on new home buyers.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

I will go with 98% of climatologists over dupe common sense everyday. So there has always been 9 billion GD people spewing gas forever? Please

Sure you will, because you've been DUPED into believing that 98% of scientists are behind GW which I clearly debunked with my link.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

WTG Communists. Wiping out the Middle Class in California. It's so sad and ironic that the Leftists who supposedly despise the Rich, are only hurting the Non-Rich with this awful legislation. Middle Class folks will struggle bigtime to handle the costs of adding solar panels.

California is headed for disaster. Only the very rich and very poor will be welcome there. The Middle Class, which pays the bills, will no longer be welcome. They'll be forced to leave the state. California will eventually resemble Communist messes like Venezuela, Cuba, and so on. It's very sad.

liberalism is a failed ideology, never works, never will. What's amazing is that the liberal mind is unable to comprehend that simple truth.

This type of awful legislation only hurts the folks the Left claims they're fighting for. The very rich can easily afford the added costs of solar panels. It's the Middle Class that won't be able to afford it. The Communists are killing the California Golden Goose.

In California the medium price of a new home is about a half million in most cities. The cost of a solar system as required by the legislation will be about $10,000 to $12,000 but will result in utility bill savings. Anybody that can afford a new half million home can certain afford $10,000 up front for solar.

I don't see that the state forcing new construction to include solar is going to be a huge burden on new home buyers.

So government force is okay as long as you determine that it's not much of a burden?

 

[francoHFW]

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

I will go with 98% of climatologists over dupe common sense everyday. So there has always been 9 billion GD people spewing gas forever? Please

Sure you will, because you've been DUPED into believing that 98% of scientists are behind GW which I clearly debunked with my link.

Hilarious. Your Wikipedia link said it was 98%. The one that says not is obvious garbage.

 

[WEATHER53]

Where is State of California on its resident’s deed?

 

[Flopper]

Only GOP Dupes don't know global warming is a fact. In the whole world. All the climatologists do, except those who work 4 big oil and fox, dingbats.

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

That's your opinion which is not shared by 70% of all Americans, 90% of all scientist, 97% of all climatologist.

 

[Flopper]

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

I will go with 98% of climatologists over dupe common sense everyday. So there has always been 9 billion GD people spewing gas forever? Please

Sure you will, because you've been DUPED into believing that 98% of scientists are behind GW which I clearly debunked with my link.

Yeah, I bet you have a good opinion apiece about liberal conspiracies, government, etc. Save it for someone else whose interested.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming - Wikipedia

Busting the 97% Myth | Climategate Book

World's top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just QUARTER what we thought - and computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Daily Mail Online

The last link from 2013 was was before the the discovery that the oceans have warmed so much they make up for much of somewhat lower air temperature Rises.

That was in invention, not a "discovery." There's no actual evidence to support the claim.

Not on Fox Rush Etc LOL. Just Google evidence oceans are warming...
First evidence of surprising ocean warming around Galápagos corals ...
Science Daily › releases › 2018/02
Feb 21, 2018 · A new analysis of the natural temperature archives stored in coral reefs shows the ocean around the Galápagos ...
New Evidence on Warming Ocean | NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA Climate.gov › featured-images
Jul 28, 2010 · Recent studies show the world's ocean is heating up as it absorbs most of the extra heat being added to the climate ...
Our Globally Changing Climate - Climate Science Special Report
GlobalChange.gov › science2017 › chapter
Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans. Thousands of studies conducted ...

Then why aren't there more hurricanes as the GW people predicted years ago?

Where do you goofs get this belief that the earth is constant? The water stays the same temperature, the air stays at the same temperature, the ground stays at the same temperature? And if anything drifts away from what you consider normal, it must be global warming.

The earth (and climate) have been changing since God made the place. Nothing is constant. It was changing 10,000 years ago and it will continue to change 10,000 years from now. There is nothing you can do to control it.

That's your opinion which is not shared by 70% of all Americans, 90% of all scientist, 97% of all climatologist.

Every time this discussion comes up, I drift away to a classroom about 100 years or so from today. The teacher tells her students that back in the early 2000's, people thought they could control the climate. The kids burst out in laughter the way we did when our teacher told us that people years ago thought the earth was flat, and if you walk too far, you'll fall off.

 

[danielpalos]

That is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard

There is nothingness repealing the general welfare clause.

And you clearly are clueless on theb10th.

Go study up.

LOL

Enumerated powers................lost on you........you've destroyed it anyway.......and California will implode like all socialist utopias have done.......

Enjoy the ride to hell.....please keep all liberals in your state...........Too many leaving that state already.............rather you keep the Kool Aide there.

No socialist Utopia has imploded. You are talking about communist Utopias, dingbat dupe. One is always democratic, the other never. Get it.

There isn't a bit of difference between them.

Outside the GOP bubble of ignorance, everyone knows communism is is dictatorship that owns everything, socialism is Fair capitalism with a good safety net.
"We're all socialists now"--finland's prime minister when ObamaCare passed. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, IGNORANT DUPE.

"Socialism is capitalism." I litterally roll on the floor laughing every time you post that.

It is worse than that. Socialism starts with a social Contract, like a Constitution.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

IF the people want to move towards solar, they'll do it of their own accord. The don't need Stalinist douchebags like you forcing them

Did you move toward digital, dope?

Of course not. You were led there.

I wasn't led there by the government, moron.

Actually, you were. In fact, you were pushed into it. The FCC mandated the conversion to HD and thus digital broadcasts. In order to receive over the air TV you had to buy a converter or buy a new digital TV. Today there are only a few analog stations left in the US and they are special purpose low power stations. Analog TV is now obsolete in the US. Government forced it on the people but in the end it was far better than the old system.

And it all came for free, right?

Any advanced technology has to be paid for by somebody. Usually that somebody is the consumer. And do you really believe without government, the industry wouldn't have eventually went to HD on their own? Industry is always looking to create more things to sell. Right now they are selling televisions with ultra HD. The problem is that there are few stations that broadcast ultra-high, but that will change on it's own timeframe and not the governments.........hopefully.

Netflix and Hulu and Vudu all broadcast some videos in UHD.

Those companies only exist because of the internet.

 

[jillian]

LOL

Enumerated powers................lost on you........you've destroyed it anyway.......and California will implode like all socialist utopias have done.......

Enjoy the ride to hell.....please keep all liberals in your state...........Too many leaving that state already.............rather you keep the Kool Aide there.

No socialist Utopia has imploded. You are talking about communist Utopias, dingbat dupe. One is always democratic, the other never. Get it.

There isn't a bit of difference between them.

Outside the GOP bubble of ignorance, everyone knows communism is is dictatorship that owns everything, socialism is Fair capitalism with a good safety net.
"We're all socialists now"--finland's prime minister when ObamaCare passed. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, IGNORANT DUPE.

"Socialism is capitalism." I litterally roll on the floor laughing every time you post that.

It is worse than that. Socialism starts with a social Contract, like a Constitution.

Oh noooooo! The horror!

 

[danielpalos]

Space elevator technology, anyone?

 

[sartre play]

Don't live in Calif, & don't have solar, so I called my Republican relative in Calif, he said his business partner (who has a huge house) put in solar because his bill was 600 to 700 a month, the cost was huge. but his bill now runs 70 to 90 dollars a month. & that building costs in his area are so over the top now that he is not sure what the impact will be.