Communist are Going to Win: Via Robots and AI

[danielpalos]

Communism never requires the confiscation of private property.
If the people vote for a public enterprise, it would be funded by taxes, so then could easily undercut and defeat any private competition.

Communism is allegedly about ownership of the means of production.

 

[danielpalos]

Communism and socialism in no way imply any taking of anything.
Who did the Post Office take from?
Who did the government confiscate Hoover Dam from?
What private company owned and built the St. Lawrence Seaway?

Yes, the social power of eminent domain is based on the "communism" established by our federal Constitution.

 

[Mac-7]

Communism is an idealistic, utopian concept, intended to implement true, ultimate democratic republics, by ending economic slavery and extortion.

In theory yes

But in actual practice communism is just a brutal oppressive system

 

[danielpalos]

In theory yes

But in actual practice communism is just a brutal oppressive system

Communism requires social morals for free. It is why we use Capitalism as much as we do.

 

[Rigby5]

Our Constitution is "local to us" in our global community. States have even more local Constitutions than that. Yes, a Constitution must matter to any Commune.

The whole point of the federal constitution is to divide between federal and all other jurisdictions.
Since economics really are not given any federal jurisdiction in the federal constitution, then the federal constitution would be irrelevant to any state or municipal implementation of communism that people may decide to do.

But on the state level, then I agree for any state wide implementation of any communism, it would require some explicit rules in the state constitution.
Like is a state enterprise allowed if private ones already exist?
Can state enterprises undercut prices?
Are private enterprises allowed at all, or can they only just be regulated?

 

[Rigby5]

In theory yes

But in actual practice communism is just a brutal oppressive system

No, Stalinism is just a brutal oppressive system.
There is no evidence any of the communists, socialist, and anarchists that Stalin killed, would have at all agreed with the brutal and oppressive system Stalin implemented.

 

[danielpalos]

The whole point of the federal constitution is to divide between federal and all other jurisdictions.

Yes, to establish Constitutional boundaries between sovereign entities. To "distinguish betwixt the Communes".

 

[danielpalos]

Since economics really are not given any federal jurisdiction in the federal constitution, then the federal constitution would be irrelevant to any state or municipal implementation of communism that people may decide to do.

However, did you reach that conclusion?

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

 

[danielpalos]

But on the state level, then I agree for any state wide implementation of any communism, it would require some explicit rules in the state constitution.
Like is a state enterprise allowed if private ones already exist?
Can state enterprises undercut prices?
Are private enterprises allowed at all, or can they only just be regulated?

States also have the eminent domain as a traditional police power.

 

[Rigby5]

Communism requires social morals for free. It is why we use Capitalism as much as we do.

Not sure what "social morals for free" means?

There are 3 main reason why we use capitalism as much as we do.
First is not just the founders, but likely all the original colonists were the most ambitious and greedy capitalist of the whole world.
They would not have left and gone to the risky New World unless they wanted to make it big economically.
Second is that capitalism is always better at competition because it rewards innovation. It is like accelerated evolution.
So if you have threatening neighbors, you do not want to suppress your capitalists.
Third is that capitalism does not require any central planning. It is simple, easy to do. You just let everyone do what ever they want.

 

[danielpalos]

Not sure what "social morals for free" means?

Capital morality for a market-friendly price under Capitalism, would be the comparison and contrast.

 

[Donald H]

The whole point of the federal constitution is to divide between federal and all other jurisdictions.
Since economics really are not given any federal jurisdiction in the federal constitution, then the federal constitution would be irrelevant to any state or municipal implementation of communism that people may decide to do.

But on the state level, then I agree for any state wide implementation of any communism, it would require some explicit rules in the state constitution.

You're talking about socialism, and there is no necessity for any of those explicit rules, but with an exception for the last.

Like is a state enterprise allowed if private ones already exist?

Of course it can.

Can state enterprises undercut prices?

Yes of course and it usually does.

Are private enterprises allowed at all, or can they only just be regulated?

They need to be regulated and limited, and here's why;

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An opportunity for an American to learn something about what works best for the consumer!

 

[Rigby5]

However, did you reach that conclusion?

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

That is not economics but only trade arrangements.
The part about regulating commerce with foreign nations was to allow for tariffs, partly because they needed a revenue source, not yet having income taxes.
Regulating commerce among the several states meant to prevent states from tariffing or blocking each other's commerce.
Not sure what they meant by regulating commerce with Indian Tribes, but perhaps the intent was to ensure a single negotiating entity?
Nothing in there about public enterprise, labor laws, minimum wage, trust busting, or anything related to economics.

 

[Rigby5]

Capital morality for a market-friendly price under Capitalism, would be the comparison and contrast.

Don't you mean "Capital Immorality for a market-friendly price under Capitalism?

 

[Rigby5]

You're talking about socialism, and there is no necessity for any of those explicit rules, but with an exception for the last.

Of course it can.

Yes of course and it usually does.

They need to be regulated and limited, and here's why;

Creeping privatization is not the fix to auto insurance in BC

As part of BC’s election campaign, the BC Liberal party pledged this week to move away from universal public auto insurance by opening up basic coverage to private insurance corporations. The claim made by party leader Andrew Wilkinson is that cheaper rates will follow from having private corporatio

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An opportunity for an American to learn something about what works best for the consumer!

I think of communism simply as the extreme degree of socialism to the point all major means of production are collectively owned, but otherwise we seem to be fairly much in agreement.
I did not know Canada had public car insurance.
I am impressed.
But it does not appear to be universal.
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Of Canada’s 10 provinces, three are government-owned and operated car insurance systems: B.C., Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. In Quebec, the government manages auto insurance for bodily injuries; otherwise, private insurers provide insurance for damage to property. The other six provinces – Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, P.E.I., Ontario and Alberta – have private auto insurance systems, as do Canada’s three territories (Nunavut, Yukon, and the Northwest Territories). According to data from IBC, the average auto insurance premium in each region varies.
...}

 

[danielpalos]

That is not economics but only trade arrangements.
The part about regulating commerce with foreign nations was to allow for tariffs, partly because they needed a revenue source, not yet having income taxes.
Regulating commerce among the several states meant to prevent states from tariffing or blocking each other's commerce.
Not sure what they meant by regulating commerce with Indian Tribes, but perhaps the intent was to ensure a single negotiating entity?
Nothing in there about public enterprise, labor laws, minimum wage, trust busting, or anything related to economics.

Commerce is all about microeconomics.

 

[danielpalos]

Don't you mean "Capital Immorality for a market-friendly price under Capitalism?

Only if you mean, "Social immorality for free".

 

[Mac-7]

No, Stalinism is just a brutal oppressive system.
There is no evidence any of the communists, socialist, and anarchists that Stalin killed, would have at all agreed with the brutal and oppressive system Stalin implemented.

Meaning what?

That stalin was an anomaly?

Just the bad communist who killed the good commies?

He purged countless communists and had them shot or sent to the gulags

And they were no better than stalin himself

 

[Donald H]

I think of communism simply as the extreme degree of socialism to the point all major means of production are collectively owned, but otherwise we seem to be fairly much in agreement.
I did not know Canada had public car insurance.
I am impressed.
But it does not appear to be universal.
{...
Of Canada’s 10 provinces, three are government-owned and operated car insurance systems: B.C., Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. In Quebec, the government manages auto insurance for bodily injuries; otherwise, private insurers provide insurance for damage to property. The other six provinces – Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, P.E.I., Ontario and Alberta – have private auto insurance systems, as do Canada’s three territories (Nunavut, Yukon, and the Northwest Territories). According to data from IBC, the average auto insurance premium in each region varies.
...}

It's not universal, as you will notice. Provinces look after their own car insurance.

 

[Aletheia4u]

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