comgress polarized? blame the GOP

[DiamondDave]

the introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; Thomas Jefferson

“The best principles of our republic secure to all its citizens a perfect equality of rights.” - Thomas Jefferson

 

[Truthmatters]

go start a thread about it.

i will NO longer answer you on that subject here.

This thread is about the GOP congress distroying the country from within by using the system.

 

[Truthmatters]

the number of filibusters by Republicans has escalated, and they have been far more willing to use the tactic than their opponents. Since 2007, the Senate Historical Office has shown, Democrats have had to end Republican filibusters more than 360 times, a historic record.



Gridlock in Congress? Blame the GOP - CNN.com

This is distroying the system the founders intended

 

[naturegirl]

Who wants to see TMs head explode?? Watch this............

We have a REPUBLICAN government.

Article 4 of the US Constitution: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

A republican form of government is distinguished from a pure democracy, which the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid; as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, "Hence it is that such [pure] democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Article Four of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Papageorgio]

that does NOT comport with the facts.

its the republicans that keep saying it their way or the highway

Sorry, you have Reid shelving bills, not letting them go to a vote.

How much has the budget gone up since Obama was elected, how much was the budget cut?

Republicans want cuts, the Democrats want increased spending. I see spending going up, I don't see spending going down.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

go start a thread about it.

i will NO longer answer you on that subject here.

This thread is about the GOP congress distroying the country from within by using the system.

No stupid, this thread is about comgress.

Stop derailing it.

 

[Truthmatters]

the Republican Party is to blame.

"The GOP," they wrote in a Washington Post op-ed based on the book, "has become an insurgent outlier in American politics." Mann and Ornstein trace the partisan style back to the emergence of Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist in the 1970s, when the two men promoted a style of slash-and-burn, take-no-prisoners politics that has remained integral to the strategy of congressional Republicans


http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/21/opinion/zelizer-congress-polarization/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7

 

[SniperFire]

Who wants to see TMs head explode?? Watch this............

Article 4 of the US Constitution: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

A republican form of government is distinguished from a pure democracy, which the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid; as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, "Hence it is that such [pure] democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Article Four of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How about this one?

“We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists.”

– Thomas Jefferson, March 4, 1801

 

[Truthmatters]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

 

[DiamondDave]

op-ed...
LMAO

 

[SniperFire]

the Republican Party is to blame.

“But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it'

- House Majority leader Nancy Pelosi, on the Democrat's tyrannical decision to use Super Majority to pass ultra-partisan, major legislation affecting all Americans

 

[Papageorgio]

Thanks for proving how blind, ignorant or how much of a liar you are. So you basically don't realize that the Democrats have the majority in the Senate and the White House and the GOP minority are the ones trying to benefit from obstructing the Dems?

Hilarious. Thank you for pointing out the Democrats have no interest in compromise and are only interested in the tyranny won by their majorities.

And remember the Tea Party won a bunch of seats in the 2010 midterm because stupid Americans only vote every 4 years and they said the American people have spoken and want them to pass their radical Paul Ryan/Michelle Bachmann agenda.

But Obama's HUGE win in 2008 meant nothing?

"Stupid Americans", interesting how you view your fellow man.

 

[naturegirl]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

Nope the founding fathers were totally against mob rule.

We have a REPUBLICAN government.

Article 4 of the US Constitution: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

Quote:
A republican form of government is distinguished from a pure democracy, which the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid; as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, "Hence it is that such [pure] democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
Article Four of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Leweman]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

the founders believed in the majority of people they deemed intelligent enough to make those decisions. Mainly white male landowners. Is that what you want? I don't even know where the idea that everyone gets a say because they were born comes from. But there's no perfect way to do it.

 

[Katzndogz]

The introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; Thomas Jefferson

yet you neglect to keep going

'republican element of popular control'

We do not have a democracy, and whether you keep holding your fingers in your ears to ignore truth is up to you

We specifically have a constitution that protects against and prevents mob rule... and that was specifically written that way by people including one Thomas Jefferson

According to your line of reasoning, the side that gets the fewest votes would "win" elections.

That we don't is, or should be, obvious.

 

[tjvh]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

The Founding fathers did NOT believe in "majority rules", that is why we have the Electoral college, if we didn't, all a candidate would need to do is campaign in Chicago, New York city, and California to get elected. The whole point is to give some farmer in Iowa the same voting power as a stock trader on Wall Street. Majority rules does not work in our legal system, and thankfully does not exist in our election system. Why do you continually cherry pick facts, with disregard for the WHOLE picture when making your points? It's disingenuous.

 

[Papageorgio]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

How do you explain the lack of advancement of the Democratic agenda right after the election? It took over two years to pass the health care and they had a veto proof Senate?

 

[Papageorgio]

the number of filibusters by republicans has escalated, and they have been far more willing to use the tactic than their opponents. Since 2007, the senate historical office has shown, democrats have had to end republican filibusters more than 360 times, a historic record.



gridlock in congress? Blame the gop - cnn.com

this is distroying the system the founders intended

bs

 

[Truthmatters]

Money and repbulican hate for our government

 

[Truthmatters]

the facts show what is being done by the republican party.

they do not believe in the rule of the majority like the founders did

The Founding fathers did NOT believe in "majority rules", that is why we have the Electoral college, if we didn't, all a candidate would need to do is campaign in Chicago, New York city, and California to get elected. The whole point is to give some farmer in Iowa the same voting power as a stock trader on Wall Street. Majority rules does not work in our legal system, and thankfully does not exist in our election system. Why do you continually cherry pick facts, with disregard for the WHOLE picture when making your points? It's disingenuous.

So you claim the founders believed in Minority rule?