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Inspector General Report Hearing Transcript: Michael Horowitz Testifies on FBI's Findings - Rev
Lindsey Graham: (09:28)
So what did this lawyer do?
M. Horowitz: (09:31)
When the lawyer had the discussion with the agent and the agent said, “I want to see it. Do you have it in writing?” the lawyer said he did, and he forwarded the liaison’s email but altered it to insert the words and not a source into the email.
Lindsey Graham: (09:51)
So he doctored it.
M. Horowitz: (09:54)
He doctored the original email from the liaison.
Lindsey Graham: (09:55)
It made it look like the CIA denied knowing Mr. Page.
M. Horowitz: (10:00)
It flatly stated that he was not a source.
Lindsey Graham: (18:10)
Let’s put it this way. If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it, is that bad?
M. Horowitz: (18:17)
Absolutely.
Lindsey Graham: (18:19)
Is that spying?
M. Horowitz: (18:22)
It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court authorized surveillance under FISA.
Lindsey Graham: (18:26)
Whatever illegal surveillance means, they did it. So all this stuff that they did, illegally surveilled Trump’s campaign, they did because they had no legal basis after the January 2017 data dump by the Russian guy to believe that the dossier was reliable. They alter exculpatory information in June of 2017 that would have further proven that Carter Page is not a Russian agent and he was actually working with the CIA. Let me ask you very directly, do you believe Carter Page is or ever was an agent of the Russian government trying to do harm to his country?
Lindsey Graham: (09:28)
So what did this lawyer do?
M. Horowitz: (09:31)
When the lawyer had the discussion with the agent and the agent said, “I want to see it. Do you have it in writing?” the lawyer said he did, and he forwarded the liaison’s email but altered it to insert the words and not a source into the email.
Lindsey Graham: (09:51)
So he doctored it.
M. Horowitz: (09:54)
He doctored the original email from the liaison.
Lindsey Graham: (09:55)
It made it look like the CIA denied knowing Mr. Page.
M. Horowitz: (10:00)
It flatly stated that he was not a source.
Lindsey Graham: (18:10)
Let’s put it this way. If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it, is that bad?
M. Horowitz: (18:17)
Absolutely.
Lindsey Graham: (18:19)
Is that spying?
M. Horowitz: (18:22)
It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court authorized surveillance under FISA.
Lindsey Graham: (18:26)
Whatever illegal surveillance means, they did it. So all this stuff that they did, illegally surveilled Trump’s campaign, they did because they had no legal basis after the January 2017 data dump by the Russian guy to believe that the dossier was reliable. They alter exculpatory information in June of 2017 that would have further proven that Carter Page is not a Russian agent and he was actually working with the CIA. Let me ask you very directly, do you believe Carter Page is or ever was an agent of the Russian government trying to do harm to his country?