Combined Thread: "Solutions" for mass shootings. Gun Control, Mental Health, School Security, etc

[The Derp]

Do you want to mainstream acceptance of white supremacy or something?

Did I say that?

That's what you seem to be arguing. So do you? Why didn't you just say "no" right away?

Why would I have to explain myself to you, and I asked you a question you did not answer. I believe you should have said "no" right away.

LOL...so you do want to mainstream acceptance of white supremacy. Color me shocked.

You see right there is how rumors start. I said no such thing and here you are saying I did. This forum is full of liars with no compunction about it. You are one of them.

So then you'll come out and say that you don't think white supremacy should be accepted or mainstreamed?

 

[Lastamender]

Oh? So you, knowing you pissed somebody off and were wholly in the wrong, wouldn't be afraid to go down a dark alley in the middle-of-nowhere with them, knowing they're armed and you're not? I say you're full of baloney.

WTF are you talking about? See, this is that personal wish fulfillment and fantasy that is symptomatic of mental illness.

Seek counseling.

Will you visit him if he is institutionalized?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Not if mentally ill people are getting guns

But you said you don't need a gun to feel safe. Now you don't feel safe?

 

[The Derp]

What ad hominem? Do you know what "ad hominem" means?

Do you?

Who is in here declaring the other mentally unstable after losing the argument?

I just said you seemed mentally disturbed and that you should seek counseling. How is that "ad hominem"? You're the one who literally called me names, which is ad hominem. That's why I questioned your understanding of the phrase.

You seem afraid of that...afraid of talking. Which is find truly bizarre because all you do in therapy is talk about yourself...so you should be excited to do that since everything in your world revolves around you and only you.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So then you'll come out and say that you don't think white supremacy should be accepted or mainstreamed?

I will. But, you can't go changing the definition of white supremacy once I do.

 

[Lastamender]

Did I say that?

That's what you seem to be arguing. So do you? Why didn't you just say "no" right away?

Why would I have to explain myself to you, and I asked you a question you did not answer. I believe you should have said "no" right away.

LOL...so you do want to mainstream acceptance of white supremacy. Color me shocked.

You see right there is how rumors start. I said no such thing and here you are saying I did. This forum is full of liars with no compunction about it. You are one of them.

So then you'll come out and say that you don't think white supremacy should be accepted or mainstreamed?

It should be accepted because it is real, and that is the only reason. Accepting reality doesn't hurt, give it a try.

 

[koshergrl]

Nope, not a white supremecist.That was just another lie told by another lefty pretending to be a right wing person in order to create chaos and encourage violence.

The Latest: 'No known ties' between Cruz and supremacists

 

[Marion Morrison]

Oh? So you, knowing you pissed somebody off and were wholly in the wrong, wouldn't be afraid to go down a dark alley in the middle-of-nowhere with them, knowing they're armed and you're not? I say you're full of baloney.

WTF are you talking about? See, this is that personal wish fulfillment and fantasy that is symptomatic of mental illness.

Seek counseling.

GFY leftist ****** shill.

Go jump into a 100 foot-wide fire pit.

Walk in front of me while I'm target practicing.


Yeah, it's not wise to tell people what to do.

From my observations, you're a moronic leftist paid shill.

 

[Slash]

A few thoughts. I'm not for outright bans and collecting. For example the last DOJ prison statistics showed 2400 undocumented immigrants incarcerated for murder or manslaughter in California alone. I'm not with the crowd of throw anyone protecting sanctuary cities in jail and build a wall, even if most are responsible.

That goes both ways though.

I am for MUCH more stringent gun laws, and mental health screenings of gun owners.

I am for finding out socio-economic issues. When Australia put in their gun laws, their crime dropped quite a bit. New Zealand in the same socio-economic zone made no changes at all to their gun laws and crime dropped the SAME EXACT AMOUNT. What else happened there then?

I'm not for the "assault weapon" ban. Almost every major shooting is done indoors and within 25' And that's where a pistol (which contributes to over 80% of gun murders but is mostly used inner city, more minorities and that's not a focus here) is best. Easier to handle, maneuver, reload, conceal, and fire. Just the AR is a "sexier" weapon (thanks hollywood), so it becomes the go to, even if it's not the deadliest choice in these attacks.

Plus FBI data shows falling out of bed is more likely to kill you than an AR. Texting behind the wheel gets a $25 fine in my state and will kill about 5000 more people than shooting at people with an AR. But the AR is scary and when it's used it's front page, and even though it falls well behind pistols and shotguns as a murder weapon, it's looks will earn it a ban, and 20 years later when we are looking at the data, we will wonder AGAIN why it failed to impact murder rates in the US after putting all this money and effort there. I'm more data based than fear-mongering what people on Fox and CNN shout at me based.

Finally, I don't feel great about armed guards at all schools. You make the school a hard target, that student is finding them at the movies, or at the bowling alley, or at the birthday party. Then we get politicians saying "look it worked in schools" and next thing we have a law where anytime you can expect more than 30 people to congregate in one area, you need to hire an armed security guard.

As a temporary solution till we solve the soci-economic issues, sure. But my biggest worry is when has the Gov't ever put something in place temporarily and then let it expire or removed it?

If we can take those wayyyyy out on the right saying "don't change anything" and those wayyyyyy out on the left saying "ban it all" out of the conversation and let people that don't want to focus on the politics of it, but a solution, I think that's the best bet.


Just some thoughts. Probably piss off a lot on both sides, but I'm not really here to take a side because of an R or a D after someones name.

 

[The Derp]

Not out of any genuin concern.

**** yeah it's a genuine concern! I don't want people to suffer mental illness if they don't have to. If they can treat it. Healthy people are happy people, and happy people don't generally go on shooting rampages.

Just because you lack empathy doesn't mean everyone else does.

That's just you passive-aggressive way of fighting back when your arguments turned to shit.

I mean...look how defensive you get. Look how resistant to mental health you are. For someone who blames shootings on mental health, you sure don't seem to take it seriously when it comes to your own personal health. So that makes me doubt the sincerity of your insistence that mass shootings are a mental illness issue.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I just said you seemed mentally disturbed and that you should seek counseling. How is that "ad hominem"? You're the one who literally called me names, which is ad hominem. That's why I questioned your understanding of the phrase.

You seem afraid of that...afraid of talking. Which is find truly bizarre because all you do in therapy is talk about yourself...so you should be excited to do that since everything in your world revolves around you and only you.

Don't make me go back and quote you. You were the one starting the bullshit.

Now you are making up excuses for your passive-aggressive insults. You're fairly transparent.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Nope, not a white supremecist.That was just another lie told by another lefty pretending to be a right wing person in order to create chaos and encourage violence.

The Latest: 'No known ties' between Cruz and supremacists

The last name is sort of a dead giveaway, just saying.

 

[koshergrl]

Mental health screening is just code for "leave the crazies on the streets".

Lock them up.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I mean...look how defensive you get. Look how resistant to mental health you are. For someone who blames shootings on mental health, you sure don't seem to take it seriously when it comes to your own personal health. So that makes me doubt the sincerity of your insistence that mass shootings are a mental illness issue.

Keep up that passive-aggressive charade.

And stop watching kiddy porn, Satan worshiper.

 

[The Derp]

More passive-aggressive behavior. Accusing me of being illiterate.

So now you feel like a victim?

Guess what? Self-victimization is another sign of mental illness.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Mental health screening is just code for "leave the crazies on the streets".

Lock them up.

I prefer house them, as most are non-violent, yet some are. They should be locked away.

No more insulin shock therapy and using them for Guinea pigs, though.

 

[bodecea]

Oh? So you, knowing you pissed somebody off and were wholly in the wrong, wouldn't be afraid to go down a dark alley in the middle-of-nowhere with them, knowing they're armed and you're not? I say you're full of baloney.

WTF are you talking about? See, this is that personal wish fulfillment and fantasy that is symptomatic of mental illness.

Seek counseling.

GFY leftist ****** shill.

Go jump into a 100 foot-wide fire pit.

Walk in front of me while I'm target practicing.


Yeah, it's not wise to tell people what to do.

From my observations, you're a moronic leftist paid shill.

Typical trumpanzee classy comments.

 

[koshergrl]

Nope, not a white supremecist.That was just another lie told by another lefty pretending to be a right wing person in order to create chaos and encourage violence.

The Latest: 'No known ties' between Cruz and supremacists

The last name is sort of a dead giveaway, just saying.

You would think. But the leftist media still ran with it.

Because they are our enemies. They create a situation that leads to innocents being killed..and when innocents are killed, they pretend right wingers are to blame..so they can justify disarming them, and instigating a political coup.

That's what it's all about.

Atheism, Communism, and Gun Control: The History of Governments That Slaughter Their Own Citizens

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Gun Control: Protecting Terrorists and Despots"
Free Liberal: Coordinating towards higher values

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Just because you lack empathy doesn't mean everyone else does.

Any particular reason why you bolded that part? Are you trying to make a case for clinical narcissism or something.



You are so transparent.

 

[The Derp]

And the only reason you said that is because I demonstrated that your solution is crap. It was done out of spite. It's your defense mechanism. You got pissed.

No, what you demonstrated is that you're paranoid and delusional. Which is why I recommended you seek mental health counseling.