Colorado can take children away from parents who "misgender"?

Ok let me try to explain this at a lower grade level for you. It is not a matter of whether it is a mental illness or if it can be explained by something else. You seem to be stuck in that dichotomous thought process, I have not denied that there is a psychological component to being trans. One important question is why are they experiencing mental distress. My position which I have stated before- and is supported by the literature- which you do not bother to read- is that their mental issues arise from the distress of feeling that they are in the wrong body as well as from societies reaction to them. You take the position that they are trans because of their mental issues . From there you conclude that they should be cured of that mental illness and there of being trans which is wrong and stupid.

To put it in the simplest and starkest terms for your benefit -they are not trans because they are crazy, They are crazy because they are trans- and that is because being trans is hard-largely because of bigots like you. But instead of educating your self and trying to understand the issue- you keep trolling me with that anorexic and trans able codswallop. And yes I do believe that anorexia and trans able are mental illnesses . The fact that all of these issues involve mental health does not make them all the same . They have different causes, there are different treatments and different measures of success in terms of out come. An anorexic can’t live without food, but a trans person can live and live well as a trans person if allowed to and given proper support,

However, I fear that I am wasting my time trying to get that across to you since you seem to lack the requisite level of sophistication to deal with such complexity so you lump them all together.

Your suggestion that if we need to cure anorexics then we also need to cure trans people -as in no longer being trans is misguided and idiotic- if you even believe your own bullshit, The goal of any treatment is always to help the patient cope better with whatever issue they are having , For the trans person that would include helping them to determine their true gender identity- and to take the necessary steps in order to be less anxious and distressed about it , At the same time we are not going to let someone starve themselves or cut off a limb

Those people may always suffer from their dysphoria but they can learn coping mechanisms so that they wont be self-destructive. The goal of treatment is always to help a person to cope, It is never to mold them into what society wants them to be- as you would do. If you can’t understand this – you are even more of a hopeless case than I though- or your just playing stupid to justify your bigotry. I suspect that your thinking is badly clouded by your disdain and contempt for trans people.
How can I be a bigot if you agree there is mental illness in a trans person. If "helping a person to cope" means I have to refer to a person as Mr. President, when he believes himself to be Abe Lincoln?

Ludicrous.
 
How can I be a bigot if you agree there is mental illness in a trans person. If "helping a person to cope" means I have to refer to a person as Mr. President, when he believes himself to be Abe Lincoln?

Ludicrous.
Holy shit!! Seriously? That;s you're entire response after everything that I wrote? You really don't understand much at all. You're a bigot because you refuse to acknowledge that gender dysphoria is more than a delusion and have taken the position that it has to be cured by turning trans people into what you think is normal

I had my say and stand by every word of it , Perhaps you can get help from a competent adult to explain the concepts to you, Really pathetic
 
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Holy shit!! Seriously? That;s you're entire response after everything that I wrote? You really don't understand much at all. You're a bigot because you refuse to acknowledge that gender dysphoria is more than a delusion and have taken the position that it has to be cured by turning trans people into what you think is normal

I had my say and stand by every word of it , Perhaps you can get help from a competent adult to explain the concepts to you, Really pathetic
You aren't half as smart as you think you are, based on your comments. I keep beating you like a rented mule, and you keep coming back for more. Impressive...but stupid.
 
The Democratic Party's LGBT hate groups want the government to give them the right to groom children.
Groomers,,,,that is stupid and irresponsible

Grooming has long been understood to be the act of gaining the trust of children to manipulate them into engaging in some sexual act for the gratification of the groomer. Gay people have long been wrongly accused of being groomers, pedophiles and pederasts

More recently, it has come to mean manipulating children into questioning their gender identity or sexual orientation, but most often leveled at anyone who offers any recognition of or support for transgender youth. The label of “groomer” has been falsely and extensively applied to everyone from practitioners of Drag Queen Story Hour to educators who dare to engage in age appropriate discussions of gender and sexuality, issues that children are already aware of but who need some adult guidance with.

This grooming meme is rampant and detracts from the reality that there are real groomers out there –sexual predators who seek to take advantage of kids. Think about the boy who cried wolf. This is similar to the way in which QAnon followers undermine the work of those fighting real human trafficking, by wrongly accusing others for political and ideological reasons. Looking for groomers, and traffickers in all the wrong places only makes it easier for the real perpetrators to operate.
 
You keep telling yourself that, but the fact is that I destroyed you
What a ******* joke. You didn’t even present a coherent argument, You have no argument at all. Just a lot of whining, fallacious logic , and jabs with out a punch line , The really sad part is that that you’re not bright enough to even understand what just happened to you here.

However, I want to thank you for motivating me to organize my thoughts on paper. It has helped me to better understand the issue and how you bigots operate . I understand better than ever just how full of shit you are
 
What a ******* joke. You didn’t even present a coherent argument, You have no argument at all. Just a lot of whining, fallacious logic , and jabs with out a punch line , The really sad part is that that you’re not bright enough to even understand what just happened to you here.

However, I want to thank you for motivating me to organize my thoughts on paper. It has helped me to better understand the issue and how you bigots operate . I understand better than ever just how full of shit you are
I don't believe a logical thought ever crossed your mind.
 
Groomers,,,,that is stupid and irresponsible

Grooming has long been understood to be the act of gaining the trust of children to manipulate them into engaging in some sexual act for the gratification of the groomer. Gay people have long been wrongly accused of being groomers, pedophiles and pederasts

More recently, it has come to mean manipulating children into questioning their gender identity or sexual orientation, but most often leveled at anyone who offers any recognition of or support for transgender youth. The label of “groomer” has been falsely and extensively applied to everyone from practitioners of Drag Queen Story Hour to educators who dare to engage in age appropriate discussions of gender and sexuality, issues that children are already aware of but who need some adult guidance with.

This grooming meme is rampant and detracts from the reality that there are real groomers out there –sexual predators who seek to take advantage of kids. Think about the boy who cried wolf. This is similar to the way in which QAnon followers undermine the work of those fighting real human trafficking, by wrongly accusing others for political and ideological reasons. Looking for groomers, and traffickers in all the wrong places only makes it easier for the real perpetrators to operate.
Wow. Now tell me why those cross dressers show up at childrens schools instead of old folks homes? 10 point if you are even in the ballpark.
 
Groomers,,,,that is stupid and irresponsible

Grooming has long been understood to be the act of gaining the trust of children to manipulate them into engaging in some sexual act for the gratification of the groomer. Gay people have long been wrongly accused of being groomers, pedophiles and pederasts

More recently, it has come to mean manipulating children into questioning their gender identity or sexual orientation, but most often leveled at anyone who offers any recognition of or support for transgender youth. The label of “groomer” has been falsely and extensively applied to everyone from practitioners of Drag Queen Story Hour to educators who dare to engage in age appropriate discussions of gender and sexuality, issues that children are already aware of but who need some adult guidance with.

This grooming meme is rampant and detracts from the reality that there are real groomers out there –sexual predators who seek to take advantage of kids. Think about the boy who cried wolf. This is similar to the way in which QAnon followers undermine the work of those fighting real human trafficking, by wrongly accusing others for political and ideological reasons. Looking for groomers, and traffickers in all the wrong places only makes it easier for the real perpetrators to operate.
The eventual goal of Progressive Socialists is to take children from their parents and warehouse them for total education and living. Like anything else it will start subtle and then mainstreamed. Trying to enforce ways to make everyone the same is the goal.
 
Wow. Now tell me why those cross dressers show up at childrens schools instead of old folks homes? 10 point if you are even in the ballpark.
Because the point is to keep young people from growing up to be ignorant and fearful bigots. You could have benefited from the program
 
Horseshit!! Interesting how you people can never really mount a counter argument to my posts. You just take idiotic pot shots that you special ed teach helped you write
When attempting to call someone stupid, one should learn simple grammar first.
 
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Because the point is to keep young people from growing up to be ignorant and fearful bigots. You could have benefited from the program
Hmm. So showing them degenerates that will stop them from being one? I suppose the next step will show how evil drinking and drugs are by having users and drunks at the next school party?
 
Hmm. So showing them degenerates that will stop them from being one? I suppose the next step will show how evil drinking and drugs are by having users and drunks at the next school party?

Drag Story Hour (DSH) was created by Michelle Tea and RADAR Productions, under the leadership of Julián Delgado Lopera and Virgie Tovar, in San Francisco in 2015. It started out as drag queens reading stories to children in libraries and grew into a global phenomenon! DSH now offers literary and creative programming for kids and teens of all ages led by drag queens, kings, and all other royal beings!


DSH is a national 501 c 3 non-profit with a global network of local organizations, each of which is independently managed and funded.

We will continue to make safe spaces across NYC where kids can express themselves, learn to embrace the radical self-expression of others, and see themselves reflected in literature while promoting a love of learning. We are committed to serving as the most fabulous, accessible example of LGBTQIA+ and TGNCNB representation, support, and affirmation for all young New Yorkers.
 

Drag Story Hour (DSH) was created by Michelle Tea and RADAR Productions, under the leadership of Julián Delgado Lopera and Virgie Tovar, in San Francisco in 2015. It started out as drag queens reading stories to children in libraries and grew into a global phenomenon! DSH now offers literary and creative programming for kids and teens of all ages led by drag queens, kings, and all other royal beings!


DSH is a national 501 c 3 non-profit with a global network of local organizations, each of which is independently managed and funded.

We will continue to make safe spaces across NYC where kids can express themselves, learn to embrace the radical self-expression of others, and see themselves reflected in literature while promoting a love of learning. We are committed to serving as the most fabulous, accessible example of LGBTQIA+ and TGNCNB representation, support, and affirmation for all young New Yorkers.
Gender fluidity is being taught by these clowns. Its not being "explained" you doofus.
 

Drag Story Hour (DSH) was created by Michelle Tea and RADAR Productions, under the leadership of Julián Delgado Lopera and Virgie Tovar, in San Francisco in 2015. It started out as drag queens reading stories to children in libraries and grew into a global phenomenon! DSH now offers literary and creative programming for kids and teens of all ages led by drag queens, kings, and all other royal beings!


DSH is a national 501 c 3 non-profit with a global network of local organizations, each of which is independently managed and funded.

We will continue to make safe spaces across NYC where kids can express themselves, learn to embrace the radical self-expression of others, and see themselves reflected in literature while promoting a love of learning. We are committed to serving as the most fabulous, accessible example of LGBTQIA+ and TGNCNB representation, support, and affirmation for all young New Yorkers.
Freaks.

They need to be kept far away from children
 
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