Coldest Winter in 100 Years

[Chris]

The end of the global warming hoax is near. When the government has to delay the Census due to cold weather this spring, they'll have to come clean.

Except that global warming is not a hoax anymore than this cold winter is a hoax.

The Sun is at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, but its warming effect must always be considered within the context of the Sun's activity.

Ignoring one fact or another because it doesn't meet your political views doesn't work.

 

[Sinatra]

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Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict

Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century with temperatures hitting minus 16 degrees Celsius, forecasters have warned.

They predicted no let up in the freezing snap until at least mid-January, with snow, ice and severe frosts dominating.

And the likelihood is that the second half of the month will be even colder....

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Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict - Telegraph

 

[saveliberty]

The end of the global warming hoax is near. When the government has to delay the Census due to cold weather this spring, they'll have to come clean.

Except that global warming is not a hoax anymore than this cold winter is a hoax.

The Sun is at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, but its warming effect must always be considered within the context of the Sun's activity.

Ignoring one fact or another because it doesn't meet your political views doesn't work.

Does anyone keep tract of the Sun's radiant, or heat energy output as a function of time? Most global warming models I have looked into use the Sun's energy output as a constant or a sine wave cycle. One scientist informed me that the Sun's energy output has increased over the past 100 years, but I have not seen any data to support that contention. I would like to see a plot of the Sun's heat energy output over the past 100 years.

"...the Sun's output changes so slowly and solar variability is so slight (less than 0.00425% of the total energy per year on time scales of days), that continuous monitoring by state-of-the-art instrumentation is necessary to detect changes with climate significance. Scientists theorize that as much as 25% of the 20th century anticipated global warming of the Earth may be due to changes in the Sun's energy output. Systematic changes in irradiance as little as 0.25% per century can cause the complete range of climate variations that have occurred in the past, ranging from ice ages to global tropical conditions. For example, scientists believe the "Little Ice Age" that occurred in Europe in the late 17th century could have been related to the minimum in sunspot activity (and a correlated minimum in total solar irradiance) that occurred during the same period."

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Sun

Therefore sunspot activity should be lower in order for your statement to be true.

climate4you Sun sunspot activity

We are below 1996 levels just slightly. Glad to see you recognize the sun is a bigger influence on global warming than CO2 levels. I am making progress with you.

 

[Old Rocks]

The end of the global warming hoax is near. When the government has to delay the Census due to cold weather this spring, they'll have to come clean.

OK, we now have one of the dingbats committed to a real prediction. You state that 2010 is going to be a cold year.

I say that it will be a warm year, not only in the top ten, but possibly exceeding 1998.

At the appropriate time, I will remind you of your prediction.

 

[del]

The end of the global warming hoax is near. When the government has to delay the Census due to cold weather this spring, they'll have to come clean.

OK, we now have one of the dingbats committed to a real prediction. You state that 2010 is going to be a cold year.

I say that it will be a warm year, not only in the top ten, but possibly exceeding 1998.

At the appropriate time, I will remind you of your prediction.

how good of you to fit it in to your busy schedule.

 

[Old Rocks]

The end of the global warming hoax is near. When the government has to delay the Census due to cold weather this spring, they'll have to come clean.

Except that global warming is not a hoax anymore than this cold winter is a hoax.

The Sun is at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, but its warming effect must always be considered within the context of the Sun's activity.

Ignoring one fact or another because it doesn't meet your political views doesn't work.

Does anyone keep tract of the Sun's radiant, or heat energy output as a function of time? Most global warming models I have looked into use the Sun's energy output as a constant or a sine wave cycle. One scientist informed me that the Sun's energy output has increased over the past 100 years, but I have not seen any data to support that contention. I would like to see a plot of the Sun's heat energy output over the past 100 years.

"...the Sun's output changes so slowly and solar variability is so slight (less than 0.00425% of the total energy per year on time scales of days), that continuous monitoring by state-of-the-art instrumentation is necessary to detect changes with climate significance. Scientists theorize that as much as 25% of the 20th century anticipated global warming of the Earth may be due to changes in the Sun's energy output. Systematic changes in irradiance as little as 0.25% per century can cause the complete range of climate variations that have occurred in the past, ranging from ice ages to global tropical conditions. For example, scientists believe the "Little Ice Age" that occurred in Europe in the late 17th century could have been related to the minimum in sunspot activity (and a correlated minimum in total solar irradiance) that occurred during the same period."

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Sun

Therefore sunspot activity should be lower in order for your statement to be true.

climate4you Sun sunspot activity

We are below 1996 levels just slightly. Glad to see you recognize the sun is a bigger influence on global warming than CO2 levels. I am making progress with you.

2008. Lowest sunspot activity in the last century, same for TSI. Strong and persistant La Nina. It should have been a very cold year.

Instead, it was the 8th or 9th warmest on record. The amount of GHGs in the atmosphere more than made up for the simultaneous occurance of an ENSO low and a TSI low.

Now think what that says concerning the coming years.

 

[saveliberty]

Except that global warming is not a hoax anymore than this cold winter is a hoax.

The Sun is at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, but its warming effect must always be considered within the context of the Sun's activity.

Ignoring one fact or another because it doesn't meet your political views doesn't work.

Does anyone keep tract of the Sun's radiant, or heat energy output as a function of time? Most global warming models I have looked into use the Sun's energy output as a constant or a sine wave cycle. One scientist informed me that the Sun's energy output has increased over the past 100 years, but I have not seen any data to support that contention. I would like to see a plot of the Sun's heat energy output over the past 100 years.

"...the Sun's output changes so slowly and solar variability is so slight (less than 0.00425% of the total energy per year on time scales of days), that continuous monitoring by state-of-the-art instrumentation is necessary to detect changes with climate significance. Scientists theorize that as much as 25% of the 20th century anticipated global warming of the Earth may be due to changes in the Sun's energy output. Systematic changes in irradiance as little as 0.25% per century can cause the complete range of climate variations that have occurred in the past, ranging from ice ages to global tropical conditions. For example, scientists believe the "Little Ice Age" that occurred in Europe in the late 17th century could have been related to the minimum in sunspot activity (and a correlated minimum in total solar irradiance) that occurred during the same period."

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Sun

Therefore sunspot activity should be lower in order for your statement to be true.

climate4you Sun sunspot activity

We are below 1996 levels just slightly. Glad to see you recognize the sun is a bigger influence on global warming than CO2 levels. I am making progress with you.

2008. Lowest sunspot activity in the last century, same for TSI. Strong and persistant La Nina. It should have been a very cold year.

Instead, it was the 8th or 9th warmest on record. The amount of GHGs in the atmosphere more than made up for the simultaneous occurance of an ENSO low and a TSI low.

Now think what that says concerning the coming years.

You are not disracting me with a CO2 hoax oldrocks. I understand the real threat is from the Democrats and Obama.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, Berty, the only thing that you understand is stupid ass Repub lies and talking points.

 

[saveliberty]

Except that global warming is not a hoax anymore than this cold winter is a hoax.

The Sun is at its lowest level of activity in 80 years.

CO2 causes the earth to warm, but its warming effect must always be considered within the context of the Sun's activity.

Ignoring one fact or another because it doesn't meet your political views doesn't work.

Does anyone keep tract of the Sun's radiant, or heat energy output as a function of time? Most global warming models I have looked into use the Sun's energy output as a constant or a sine wave cycle. One scientist informed me that the Sun's energy output has increased over the past 100 years, but I have not seen any data to support that contention. I would like to see a plot of the Sun's heat energy output over the past 100 years.

"...the Sun's output changes so slowly and solar variability is so slight (less than 0.00425% of the total energy per year on time scales of days), that continuous monitoring by state-of-the-art instrumentation is necessary to detect changes with climate significance. Scientists theorize that as much as 25% of the 20th century anticipated global warming of the Earth may be due to changes in the Sun's energy output. Systematic changes in irradiance as little as 0.25% per century can cause the complete range of climate variations that have occurred in the past, ranging from ice ages to global tropical conditions. For example, scientists believe the "Little Ice Age" that occurred in Europe in the late 17th century could have been related to the minimum in sunspot activity (and a correlated minimum in total solar irradiance) that occurred during the same period."

NASA's Cosmicopia -- Ask Us -- Sun

Therefore sunspot activity should be lower in order for your statement to be true.

climate4you Sun sunspot activity

We are below 1996 levels just slightly. Glad to see you recognize the sun is a bigger influence on global warming than CO2 levels. I am making progress with you.

2008. Lowest sunspot activity in the last century, same for TSI. Strong and persistant La Nina. It should have been a very cold year.

Instead, it was the 8th or 9th warmest on record. The amount of GHGs in the atmosphere more than made up for the simultaneous occurance of an ENSO low and a TSI low.

Now think what that says concerning the coming years.

Faked data plain and simple. You want to believe lies go ahead.

 

[Old Rocks]

By God, you are as stupid as Elvis, Dude, and Sinatra. Next you will be telling me that it is a worldwide conspiracy among 99% of the scientists in the world.

 

[saveliberty]

By God, you are as stupid as Elvis, Dude, and Sinatra. Next you will be telling me that it is a worldwide conspiracy among 99% of the scientists in the world.

Yes, because 99% of the scientists in the world are climatologists, dumbass.

 

[Yukon]

Yes, because 99% of the scientists in the world are climatologists, dumbass.

You have NO credability. Saying that 99% of the worlds scientists are climatologists proves my point - you and your kind are IDIOTS !

 

[Old Rocks]

Every Scientific Society in the world, every National Academy of Science, and every major Univesity in the world all state that global warming is happening, that it is anthropogenic in origin, and that it is a clear and present danger. That does represent about 99% of the scientists in the world.

While people like yourself represnt the majority of the fruitcakes in the world.

 

[saveliberty]

Yes, because 99% of the scientists in the world are climatologists, dumbass.

You have NO credability. Saying that 99% of the worlds scientists are climatologists proves my point - you and your kind are IDIOTS !

Actually old rocks made that implication, you are correct, only an idiot would make that comment. I'm sure old rocks will dispute he's an idiot.

 

[Big Fitz]

Every Scientific Society in the world, every National Academy of Science, and every major Univesity in the world all state that global warming is happening, that it is anthropogenic in origin,

Bullshit.

Oh wait! Is this like the same crap unions state when they say their members all agree with the few radical socialists who've wormed their way to the top of the organziation and are using it for personal power and wealth? In that case, yeah, those handful of political opportunists back at the office who aren't really scientists all agree and say it's anthropogenic. Not to mention they lack the ethics enough to say that their memberships MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE.

BTW, are all these scientists liars and or not part of this 99% who support AGW? If so how many scientists are out there?

Anti-Global Warming Scientist Petition

 

[saveliberty]

Every Scientific Society in the world, every National Academy of Science, and every major Univesity in the world all state that global warming is happening, that it is anthropogenic in origin, and that it is a clear and present danger. That does represent about 99% of the scientists in the world.

While people like yourself represnt the majority of the fruitcakes in the world.

You mean those groups where only the leadership fruitcakes vote on policy that is endorsed? I see the word about creeping into your posts. What is the matter? Getting a little unsure of your percentages?

 

[Big Fitz]

By God, you are as stupid as Elvis, Dude, and Sinatra. Next you will be telling me that it is a worldwide conspiracy among 99% of the scientists in the world.

No. We're just calling you a congenital liar.

 

[mal]

Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict

Britain is bracing itself for one of the coldest winters for a century with temperatures hitting minus 16 degrees Celsius, forecasters have warned.

They predicted no let up in the freezing snap until at least mid-January, with snow, ice and severe frosts dominating.

And the likelihood is that the second half of the month will be even colder....

____


Britain facing one of the coldest winters in 100 years, experts predict - Telegraph

As U.K. shivers, hundreds of cars stuck in snow - Europe- msnbc.com

And More...



peace...

 

[Sinatra]

And yet more...

Army rescues 1,000 drivers stranded in cars for 12 HOURS as UK is paralysed by heavy snow (with more on its way)


At the mercy of the deep freeze: Schools shut, firms hit... now another 6 inches of snow | Mail Online

 

[Sinatra]

And Still More...


Longest Stretch of Cold Weather in 15 to 25 Years Possible This Week

…Longest Stretch of Much Below Normal Temperatures in 15 to 25 Years Possible…

Temperatures are expected to remain much below normal over all of south Florida this week, with the possibility of even colder temperatures this upcoming weekend. For detailed information on expected temperatures, please follow the indicated links for our textual and graphical forecasts. For freeze/wind chill watches and warnings, please check our hazards page.


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