CO2 sequestration method.

[flacaltenn]

Idea is pretty simple and a lot more secure than past CO2 storage ideas. Make "soda water" out of the CO2. Find a large deposit of porous basalt (or other types with high calcium, iron, magnesium). Then inject the fluid and let chemistry work. The Carbon ends up incorporated into the rock.

Takes too much water to be practical everywhere. And that bothers me even IF you had enough water. Since we've learned from fracking that making rivers into the ground cause fundamental instabilities.

But like the article says at the end. On a sea coast -- siting a fossil plant with one of these COULD be pretty GHouse Gas free..


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/s...sequestration-iceland.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

 

[Old Rocks]

Easier and cheaper idea. Just don't create the CO2 in the first place.

 

[Vigilante]

I LOVE salad...More CO2 ...PLEASE

Isolated for 42 days in chambers of ambient and elevated CO2 concentrations, we periodically document the growth of cowpea plants (Vigna unguiculata) via time-lapse photography.

 

[P F Tinmore]

We Can Reverse Climate Change by the Way We Grow Food

 

[Olde Europe]

Easier and cheaper idea. Just don't create the CO2 in the first place.

Yeah, sure, on first sight that looks reasonable, but that's no way to keep our corporate overlords happy. After all, where are they supposed to find additional profits other than by a way of doing business that profitably creates costly problems to be met by costly (highly profitable) solutions?

Like, say, profitably sugaring up our food so as to create near limitless business and profit opportunities in the health care (diabetes) and dietary sectors.

 

[LaDexter]

More harm and waste by Algore's FRAUD. We have no need to sequester CO2 since Co2 isn't warming anything...

 

[flacaltenn]

Easier and cheaper idea. Just don't create the CO2 in the first place.

Not cheaper if you freeze to death, or die of heat or massive power failures is it??

The thought of actually burning fossil fuels CLEANLY -- really Rocks your world -- doesn't it?

 

[Crick]

You cannot burn it without producing hydrocarbons so, in that respect, you are not talking about burning it cleanly. You're simply talking about cleaning up the mess made by its use. Using alternative energy technologies avoids making the mess in the first place.

Have you ever thought about the loss of materials from the exhaustion of our petroleum supplies? Plastics, medicines, solvents, gases. Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming, a professor of materials science told us that petroleum had become far too valuable as a materials resource to just burn it for heat.

 

[Unkotare]

Grow big trees

 

[Crick]

That would require reducing the world's population.

 

[flacaltenn]

You cannot burn it without producing hydrocarbons so, in that respect, you are not talking about burning it cleanly. You're simply talking about cleaning up the mess made by its use. Using alternative energy technologies avoids making the mess in the first place.

Have you ever thought about the loss of materials from the exhaustion of our petroleum supplies? Plastics, medicines, solvents, gases. Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming, a professor of materials science told us that petroleum had become far too valuable as a materials resource to just burn it for heat.

man, what a show. "You can't burn hydrocarbons without producing hydrocarbons." ANY hydrocarbon combustion that burns effectively and CLEANLY --- produces just CO2 and H2O. See the auto catalytic converter for instance.
You traded POLLUTION for MORE CO2 with those devices. And so it is with power plants. You can scrub actually carbon emissions, but you can't scrub CO2.

Suggest you check out the list of "renewables" because "BIOMASS conversion" which your primitive clan considered clean and green has the same issues. Euros OVERinvested in biomass and the Greenies over there got taken to the cleaners when garbage incinerators showed up in their neighborhoods..

More propaganda from the Erlichs and the fear mongers in the 70s about limits on food and resources? Spare me.
What they didn't count on were market shifts and innovations. Stuff that eco-leftists aren't aware of.

And what does OIL have to do with electrical generation plants anyway Bullwinkle?? Hmmmmmmmmmmm ???

 

[Wyatt earp]

You cannot burn it without producing hydrocarbons so, in that respect, you are not talking about burning it cleanly. You're simply talking about cleaning up the mess made by its use. Using alternative energy technologies avoids making the mess in the first place.

Have you ever thought about the loss of materials from the exhaustion of our petroleum supplies? Plastics, medicines, solvents, gases. Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming, a professor of materials science told us that petroleum had become far too valuable as a materials resource to just burn it for heat.

Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming,


WTF? After thousands and thousands of topics on AGW, some you participated in, you say in the year 2016 no one claimed climate change before 35 years ago?

Crick talking to you is like talking to a brick wall..... Hopeless...


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[Wyatt earp]

Easier and cheaper idea. Just don't create the CO2 in the first place.

Well this throws a curve ball in your hyper exaggerated fear mongering on petrol does it not hippie?

We can burn all the oil we want now.

 

[Crick]

You cannot burn it without producing hydrocarbons so, in that respect, you are not talking about burning it cleanly. You're simply talking about cleaning up the mess made by its use. Using alternative energy technologies avoids making the mess in the first place.

Have you ever thought about the loss of materials from the exhaustion of our petroleum supplies? Plastics, medicines, solvents, gases. Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming, a professor of materials science told us that petroleum had become far too valuable as a materials resource to just burn it for heat.

Thirty five years ago, before anyone had thought of global warming,


WTF? After thousands and thousands of topics on AGW, some you participated in, you say in the year 2016 no one claimed climate change before 35 years ago?

Crick talking to you is like talking to a brick wall..... Hopeless...

There had certainly been none that I had seen. If you disagree, show us some mainstream articles on global warming prior to 1980.

That you folks have to talk about inane nothingness like this should tip you off that maybe your side of the argument is not sitting on a firm foundation.

 

[Olde Europe]

That you folks have to talk about inane nothingness like this should tip you off that maybe your side of the argument is not sitting on a firm foundation.

Actually, their "argument" is sitting on one of the strongest foundations there is, and, incidentally, it's the same foundation relied upon by obscurantism, bigotry, and the struggle for unearned wealth and power throughout history: Ignorance and fear. After all, with costs for renewable energies declining at breakneck speed, and their much hailed "cures" either not feasible or adding to the costs of business as usual, rendering them uncompetitive shortly, it's a pretty simple calculation to show that the energy giants may soon end up with not billions but trillions of dollars in stranded assets. Thus it isn't at all surprising that they are marshaling their troops to instill the fear of the devil in those living comfortably and precariously alike. Having set out to pursue the path of clinging to their profits, their way of doing business, and thus having missed the opportunities a new energy market provided, they seemingly decided to go all in, and deceive as many as they can, and, to that end, make use of their sycophants, water carriers and useful idiots for as long as they can.

 

[Unkotare]

Grow big trees

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[Crick]

As I said to that earlier, the increasing human population prevents it. Get us to ZPG and turn us into vegetarians. Then you can successfully plant trees.

 

[Unkotare]

As I said to that earlier, the increasing human population prevents it. ....

Not at all.

 

[Wyatt earp]

That you folks have to talk about inane nothingness like this should tip you off that maybe your side of the argument is not sitting on a firm foundation.

Actually, their "argument" is sitting on one of the strongest foundations there is, and, incidentally, it's the same foundation relied upon by obscurantism, bigotry, and the struggle for unearned wealth and power throughout history: Ignorance and fear. After all, with costs for renewable energies declining at breakneck speed, and their much hailed "cures" either not feasible or adding to the costs of business as usual, rendering them uncompetitive shortly, it's a pretty simple calculation to show that the energy giants may soon end up with not billions but trillions of dollars in stranded assets. Thus it isn't at all surprising that they are marshaling their troops to instill the fear of the devil in those living comfortably and precariously alike. Having set out to pursue the path of clinging to their profits, their way of doing business, and thus having missed the opportunities a new energy market provided, they seemingly decided to go all in, and deceive as many as they can, and, to that end, make use of their sycophants, water carriers and useful idiots for as long as they can.

Damn talk about ignorance......ya do know they spent billions in green energy right?


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[Crick]

But that's not what you brought up.

Besides, give us your best estimate what a one meter rise in sea level is going to cost the world to deal with?