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[TheGreenHornet]

What do other developed nations do, and have been doing for many, many decades?

Japan has the most sane immigration policy that I know of. Europe the worst...even worse than ours.

But we really do not have to look to other nations to figure out what we need to do. All we need is basic common sense aka take care of our own. Very simple but the public schools, hollywood and the mass media have done a great job of coinfusing generations along with ripping common sense from our culture.

VDARE.com news - America's Immigration Voice.

 

[Picaro]

I am seeing a lot of jabberwocky regarding immigration......most do not even know about the radical immigration policy of 1965 which is a big part of the mess we are in today in regards to immigration....as in even our legal immigration policy is screwed up thanx to the LBJ immigration law....not even to mention all the illegal immigrants pouring in.

What the new Immigration policy that was begun in 1965 thanx to LBJ and the usual suspects is that it changed big time who we give preferance to in regards to legal immigration....LBJ changed it to giving preferance to 3rd world country immigrants....in other words we switched from favoring European immigrants.....you know the folks who look like us, who have a similar morals, religious background, who were educated with skills that America needed ....to.....3rd world immigrants from places like Africa and muslim countries. Aka....people with no skills, education, or anything to contribute to America not even to mention an alien religion and basically they do not really want to be Americans...they come here to milk the cash cow and send every dime they can back to their relatives and some of them constantly come and go (muslims) with all the problems of today associated with that...ya know go back to the ole country get some military training and radical hate America doctrine and transpose into jihadists ---if not them their children.

The Immigration Act of 1965, 50 Years Later - The Atlantic

What Trump is really trying to do is to preserve and promote the America we all once new and loved which in a nutshell has been contaminated by diversity and multiculturalism.....aka the b.s. liberals are devoted to because they basically hate America and Americans --being saturated with white guilt and a inherent need to feel morally superior....idiotically believing that promoting minorities makes them superior to other white folk whom they constantly attempt to demonize by calling them racist.

Problems of the Second Generation: To be Young, Muslim, and American

This is not rocket science folks....just basic common sense...aka take care of your own which means charity begins at home. Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was before 1965....aka.....to favor European immigrants. If we cannot understand that...if we are not willing to do that.....then we await 3rd world status.

LBJ didn't have any 'Immigration Law', Congress did, and you mean Ted Kennedy shepherding it through the House and Senate with the northeastern liberals.


The Hart–Celler Act was widely supported in Congress. Senator Philip A. Hart introduced the administration-backed immigration bill which was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee's Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee.[9] Representative Emanuel Celler introduced the bill in the House of Representatives, which voted 320 to 70 in favor of the act, while the Senate passed the bill by a vote of 76 to 18.[9] In the Senate, 52 Democrats voted yes, 14 no, and 1 abstained. Among Senate Republicans, 24 voted yes, 3 voted no, and 1 abstained.[10] In the House, 202 Democrats voted yes, 60 voted no and 12 abstained, 118 Republicans voted yes, 10 voted no and 11 abstained.[11] In total, 74% of Democrats and 85% of Republicans voted for passage of this bill. Most of the no votes were from the American South, which was then still strongly Democratic. During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset".[12]

Senator Hiram Fong (R-HI) answered questions concerning the possible change in our cultural pattern by an influx of Asians:

"Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States ... with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 ... the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population .. .Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965, pp.71, 119.)[13]

[Note: From 1966 to 1970, 19,399 immigrants came from Japan, more than three times Sen. Fong's estimate. Immigration from Asia as a whole has totaled 5,627,576 from 1966 to 1993. 6.8% of the American population is currently of Asian birth or heritage.]

Michael A. Feighan and other conservative Democrats had insisted that "family unification" should take priority over "employability", on the premise that such a weighting would maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. That change in policy instead resulted in Chain migration dominating the subsequent patterns of immigration to the United States.[14][15]

On October 3, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the legislation into law, saying, "This [old] system violates the basic principle of American democracy, the principle that values and rewards each man on the basis of his merit as a man. It has been un-American in the highest sense, because it has been untrue to the faith that brought thousands to these shores even before we were a country".[16]

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia

What it wasn't supposed to change was the restrictions on the numbers. That came later, under the following; the 'Chain migration' loophole, which was a Conservative invention, not a liberal one, is the main culprit, followed later by the usual Chamber Of Commerce and right wing business and Big Ag fan clubs who loved them some cheap illegal labor.

Right wing spammers really should not try and imitate their left wing fake news spammers if they truly want to finish off the current MSM and its partisan hackery.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That 30% of the nation that supports Trump manifests a type of social deficiency that becomes very apparent when it becomes emotionally stressed.

Immigration issues are always a trigger for that group.

Your racist troll post duly noted. What Jake means is that the Democrats hate white working people and think they're the problem, not Democratic education and quota policies that made most minorities dumber than dirt.

The racialism is the role of the Alt Right, who hate anyone who does not look like them. Picaro et al do not represent the "white working people" in the slightest, and to suggest they do is to make it obvious the far right sees the immigration debate in racialist, nativist, and ethnocentric terms.

 

[Picaro]

That 30% of the nation that supports Trump manifests a type of social deficiency that becomes very apparent when it becomes emotionally stressed.

Immigration issues are always a trigger for that group.

Your racist troll post duly noted. What Jake means is that the Democrats hate white working people and think they're the problem, not Democratic education and quota policies that made most minorities dumber than dirt.

The racialism is the role of the Alt Right, who hate anyone who does not look like them. Picaro et al do not represent the "white working people" in the slightest, and to suggest they do is to make it obvious the far right sees the immigration debate in racialist, nativist, and ethnocentric terms.

Jake makes yet another racist troll post, proving my point over and over again.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I am seeing a lot of jabberwocky regarding immigration......most do not even know about the radical immigration policy of 1965 which is a big part of the mess we are in today in regards to immigration....as in even our legal immigration policy is screwed up thanx to the LBJ immigration law....not even to mention all the illegal immigrants pouring in.

What the new Immigration policy that was begun in 1965 thanx to LBJ and the usual suspects is that it changed big time who we give preferance to in regards to legal immigration....LBJ changed it to giving preferance to 3rd world country immigrants....in other words we switched from favoring European immigrants.....you know the folks who look like us, who have a similar morals, religious background, who were educated with skills that America needed ....to.....3rd world immigrants from places like Africa and muslim countries. Aka....people with no skills, education, or anything to contribute to America not even to mention an alien religion and basically they do not really want to be Americans...they come here to milk the cash cow and send every dime they can back to their relatives and some of them constantly come and go (muslims) with all the problems of today associated with that...ya know go back to the ole country get some military training and radical hate America doctrine and transpose into jihadists ---if not them their children.

The Immigration Act of 1965, 50 Years Later - The Atlantic

What Trump is really trying to do is to preserve and promote the America we all once new and loved which in a nutshell has been contaminated by diversity and multiculturalism.....aka the b.s. liberals are devoted to because they basically hate America and Americans --being saturated with white guilt and a inherent need to feel morally superior....idiotically believing that promoting minorities makes them superior to other white folk whom they constantly attempt to demonize by calling them racist.

Problems of the Second Generation: To be Young, Muslim, and American

This is not rocket science folks....just basic common sense...aka take care of your own which means charity begins at home. Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was before 1965....aka.....to favor European immigrants. If we cannot understand that...if we are not willing to do that.....then we await 3rd world status.

LBJ didn't have any 'Immigration Law', Congress did, and you mean Ted Kennedy shepherding it through the House and Senate with the northeastern liberals.


The Hart–Celler Act was widely supported in Congress. Senator Philip A. Hart introduced the administration-backed immigration bill which was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee's Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee.[9] Representative Emanuel Celler introduced the bill in the House of Representatives, which voted 320 to 70 in favor of the act, while the Senate passed the bill by a vote of 76 to 18.[9] In the Senate, 52 Democrats voted yes, 14 no, and 1 abstained. Among Senate Republicans, 24 voted yes, 3 voted no, and 1 abstained.[10] In the House, 202 Democrats voted yes, 60 voted no and 12 abstained, 118 Republicans voted yes, 10 voted no and 11 abstained.[11] In total, 74% of Democrats and 85% of Republicans voted for passage of this bill. Most of the no votes were from the American South, which was then still strongly Democratic. During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset".[12]

Senator Hiram Fong (R-HI) answered questions concerning the possible change in our cultural pattern by an influx of Asians:

"Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States ... with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 ... the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population .. .Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965, pp.71, 119.)[13]

[Note: From 1966 to 1970, 19,399 immigrants came from Japan, more than three times Sen. Fong's estimate. Immigration from Asia as a whole has totaled 5,627,576 from 1966 to 1993. 6.8% of the American population is currently of Asian birth or heritage.]

Michael A. Feighan and other conservative Democrats had insisted that "family unification" should take priority over "employability", on the premise that such a weighting would maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. That change in policy instead resulted in Chain migration dominating the subsequent patterns of immigration to the United States.[14][15]

On October 3, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the legislation into law, saying, "This [old] system violates the basic principle of American democracy, the principle that values and rewards each man on the basis of his merit as a man. It has been un-American in the highest sense, because it has been untrue to the faith that brought thousands to these shores even before we were a country".[16]

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia

What it wasn't supposed to change was the restrictions on the numbers. That came later, under the following; the 'Chain migration' loophole, which was a Conservative invention, not a liberal one, is the main culprit, followed later by the usual Chamber Of Commerce and right wing business and Big Ag fan clubs who loved them some cheap illegal labor.

Right wing spammers really should not try and imitate their left wing fake news spammers if they truly want to finish off the current MSM and its partisan hackery.

LBJ led crucial legislation in 1965, changing the demographics of the U.S.

DANIEL J. TICHENORMAY 25, 2016


The law’s opponents warned that this open-ended immigration act would change the face of America dramatically. It did.

Migrants from Central America, South America, and Asia flooded the country, legally and illegally. Although Jesse Jackson popularized the notion of a multicultural rainbow in the 1980s, the 1990s experienced America’s largest immigration wave, to date. America’s Hispanic population grew by an estimated 1 million a year—10 times faster than the white population, from 22.4 million in 1990 to 35.3 million in 2000, becoming 12.5 percent of the population. The percentage of whites dropped from 80 percent in 1990 to 75 percent in 2000, with 69 percent non-Hispanic white.

Democracy and multi-culturalism does not work. Democracy requires trust - that the other members of your democracy won't vote to despoil you.

Thus the mess we are now in where we are in the midst of a verbal civil war....the hate exhibited by the leftwingers is unparalled in our society.

On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say

Steve Sailer

n the second half of the 20th Century, New York City experimented with taking progressivism seriously for a relatively brief period of time, with catastrophic results. But New Yorkers tend to be smart, pushy, and self-interested — as exemplified by a certain New York native in the news fairly frequently these days.

So, New York has junked many of the policies that nearly destroyed it, although you wouldn’t necessarily know about it from what most New Yorkers tell other Americans about how they ought to behave.

America finally discovered a non-sanctimonious typical New Yorker and elected him President.

But it’s worth paying attention to what white New Yorkers do rather than what they say. For example, New York City has in recent decades revamped its public schools fairly severely to make them more attractive to the white parents who pay most of the taxes. That is a good thing, and other cities should do it too.


On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say | Bl



What LBJ really said......................
LBJ on Immigration
President Lyndon B. Johnson's Remarks at the Signing of the Immigration Bill
Liberty Island, New York
October 3, 1965


What LBJ said about the radical immigration bill of l965:
Upon signing the Immigration Bill of 1965, President Johnson said that it was one of the most important acts of his administration - LBJ Presidential Library

Lyndon Johnson was the ultimate psychopath

BETTMANN / GETTY

 

[Picaro]

I am seeing a lot of jabberwocky regarding immigration......most do not even know about the radical immigration policy of 1965 which is a big part of the mess we are in today in regards to immigration....as in even our legal immigration policy is screwed up thanx to the LBJ immigration law....not even to mention all the illegal immigrants pouring in.

What the new Immigration policy that was begun in 1965 thanx to LBJ and the usual suspects is that it changed big time who we give preferance to in regards to legal immigration....LBJ changed it to giving preferance to 3rd world country immigrants....in other words we switched from favoring European immigrants.....you know the folks who look like us, who have a similar morals, religious background, who were educated with skills that America needed ....to.....3rd world immigrants from places like Africa and muslim countries. Aka....people with no skills, education, or anything to contribute to America not even to mention an alien religion and basically they do not really want to be Americans...they come here to milk the cash cow and send every dime they can back to their relatives and some of them constantly come and go (muslims) with all the problems of today associated with that...ya know go back to the ole country get some military training and radical hate America doctrine and transpose into jihadists ---if not them their children.

The Immigration Act of 1965, 50 Years Later - The Atlantic

What Trump is really trying to do is to preserve and promote the America we all once new and loved which in a nutshell has been contaminated by diversity and multiculturalism.....aka the b.s. liberals are devoted to because they basically hate America and Americans --being saturated with white guilt and a inherent need to feel morally superior....idiotically believing that promoting minorities makes them superior to other white folk whom they constantly attempt to demonize by calling them racist.

Problems of the Second Generation: To be Young, Muslim, and American

This is not rocket science folks....just basic common sense...aka take care of your own which means charity begins at home. Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was before 1965....aka.....to favor European immigrants. If we cannot understand that...if we are not willing to do that.....then we await 3rd world status.

LBJ didn't have any 'Immigration Law', Congress did, and you mean Ted Kennedy shepherding it through the House and Senate with the northeastern liberals.


The Hart–Celler Act was widely supported in Congress. Senator Philip A. Hart introduced the administration-backed immigration bill which was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee's Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee.[9] Representative Emanuel Celler introduced the bill in the House of Representatives, which voted 320 to 70 in favor of the act, while the Senate passed the bill by a vote of 76 to 18.[9] In the Senate, 52 Democrats voted yes, 14 no, and 1 abstained. Among Senate Republicans, 24 voted yes, 3 voted no, and 1 abstained.[10] In the House, 202 Democrats voted yes, 60 voted no and 12 abstained, 118 Republicans voted yes, 10 voted no and 11 abstained.[11] In total, 74% of Democrats and 85% of Republicans voted for passage of this bill. Most of the no votes were from the American South, which was then still strongly Democratic. During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset".[12]

Senator Hiram Fong (R-HI) answered questions concerning the possible change in our cultural pattern by an influx of Asians:

"Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States ... with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 ... the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population .. .Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965, pp.71, 119.)[13]

[Note: From 1966 to 1970, 19,399 immigrants came from Japan, more than three times Sen. Fong's estimate. Immigration from Asia as a whole has totaled 5,627,576 from 1966 to 1993. 6.8% of the American population is currently of Asian birth or heritage.]

Michael A. Feighan and other conservative Democrats had insisted that "family unification" should take priority over "employability", on the premise that such a weighting would maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. That change in policy instead resulted in Chain migration dominating the subsequent patterns of immigration to the United States.[14][15]

On October 3, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the legislation into law, saying, "This [old] system violates the basic principle of American democracy, the principle that values and rewards each man on the basis of his merit as a man. It has been un-American in the highest sense, because it has been untrue to the faith that brought thousands to these shores even before we were a country".[16]

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia

What it wasn't supposed to change was the restrictions on the numbers. That came later, under the following; the 'Chain migration' loophole, which was a Conservative invention, not a liberal one, is the main culprit, followed later by the usual Chamber Of Commerce and right wing business and Big Ag fan clubs who loved them some cheap illegal labor.

Right wing spammers really should not try and imitate their left wing fake news spammers if they truly want to finish off the current MSM and its partisan hackery.

LBJ led crucial legislation in 1965, changing the demographics of the U.S.

DANIEL J. TICHENORMAY 25, 2016


The law’s opponents warned that this open-ended immigration act would change the face of America dramatically. It did.

Migrants from Central America, South America, and Asia flooded the country, legally and illegally. Although Jesse Jackson popularized the notion of a multicultural rainbow in the 1980s, the 1990s experienced America’s largest immigration wave, to date. America’s Hispanic population grew by an estimated 1 million a year—10 times faster than the white population, from 22.4 million in 1990 to 35.3 million in 2000, becoming 12.5 percent of the population. The percentage of whites dropped from 80 percent in 1990 to 75 percent in 2000, with 69 percent non-Hispanic white.

Democracy and multi-culturalism does not work. Democracy requires trust - that the other members of your democracy won't vote to despoil you.

Thus the mess we are now in where we are in the midst of a verbal civil war....the hate exhibited by the leftwingers is unparalled in our society.

On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say

Steve Sailer

n the second half of the 20th Century, New York City experimented with taking progressivism seriously for a relatively brief period of time, with catastrophic results. But New Yorkers tend to be smart, pushy, and self-interested — as exemplified by a certain New York native in the news fairly frequently these days.

So, New York has junked many of the policies that nearly destroyed it, although you wouldn’t necessarily know about it from what most New Yorkers tell other Americans about how they ought to behave.

America finally discovered a non-sanctimonious typical New Yorker and elected him President.

But it’s worth paying attention to what white New Yorkers do rather than what they say. For example, New York City has in recent decades revamped its public schools fairly severely to make them more attractive to the white parents who pay most of the taxes. That is a good thing, and other cities should do it too.


On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say | Bl



What LBJ really said......................
LBJ on Immigration
President Lyndon B. Johnson's Remarks at the Signing of the Immigration Bill
Liberty Island, New York
October 3, 1965


What LBJ said about the radical immigration bill of l965:
Upon signing the Immigration Bill of 1965, President Johnson said that it was one of the most important acts of his administration - LBJ Presidential Library

Lyndon Johnson was the ultimate psychopath

BETTMANN / GETTY

Meaningless. Ted Kennedy sponsored it, LBJ wasn't in the Senate or the House at the time. Some speeches he made at the time don't mean a thing, any more than Thomas Jefferson's anti-slavery screeds meant he was opposed to slavery in real life. And besides, Republicans voted for it in higher percentages of their vote base than Democrats did, and so did conservatives.

LBJ was also looking ahead to when he would be facing trying to get Vietnamese and other Asian allies a place to go, along with possibly Israelis and other nationalities, due to the then uncertainties of the Cold War around the world, and did not want to strike an isolationist and racist pose at a critical time, when refugees were becoming pretty common.

Avoid getting historical tips from posters like PoliticalChic or ToddsterP; they can only lead people astray. Keep to the high ground, where you have mostly been so far. I like PolChic, she's an American patriot, but she has a peccadillo or two that are just nuts.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

I am seeing a lot of jabberwocky regarding immigration......most do not even know about the radical immigration policy of 1965 which is a big part of the mess we are in today in regards to immigration....as in even our legal immigration policy is screwed up thanx to the LBJ immigration law....not even to mention all the illegal immigrants pouring in.

What the new Immigration policy that was begun in 1965 thanx to LBJ and the usual suspects is that it changed big time who we give preferance to in regards to legal immigration....LBJ changed it to giving preferance to 3rd world country immigrants....in other words we switched from favoring European immigrants.....you know the folks who look like us, who have a similar morals, religious background, who were educated with skills that America needed ....to.....3rd world immigrants from places like Africa and muslim countries. Aka....people with no skills, education, or anything to contribute to America not even to mention an alien religion and basically they do not really want to be Americans...they come here to milk the cash cow and send every dime they can back to their relatives and some of them constantly come and go (muslims) with all the problems of today associated with that...ya know go back to the ole country get some military training and radical hate America doctrine and transpose into jihadists ---if not them their children.

The Immigration Act of 1965, 50 Years Later - The Atlantic

What Trump is really trying to do is to preserve and promote the America we all once new and loved which in a nutshell has been contaminated by diversity and multiculturalism.....aka the b.s. liberals are devoted to because they basically hate America and Americans --being saturated with white guilt and a inherent need to feel morally superior....idiotically believing that promoting minorities makes them superior to other white folk whom they constantly attempt to demonize by calling them racist.

Problems of the Second Generation: To be Young, Muslim, and American

This is not rocket science folks....just basic common sense...aka take care of your own which means charity begins at home. Our immigration policy needs to be changed back to the way it was before 1965....aka.....to favor European immigrants. If we cannot understand that...if we are not willing to do that.....then we await 3rd world status.

LBJ didn't have any 'Immigration Law', Congress did, and you mean Ted Kennedy shepherding it through the House and Senate with the northeastern liberals.


The Hart–Celler Act was widely supported in Congress. Senator Philip A. Hart introduced the administration-backed immigration bill which was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee's Immigration and Naturalization Subcommittee.[9] Representative Emanuel Celler introduced the bill in the House of Representatives, which voted 320 to 70 in favor of the act, while the Senate passed the bill by a vote of 76 to 18.[9] In the Senate, 52 Democrats voted yes, 14 no, and 1 abstained. Among Senate Republicans, 24 voted yes, 3 voted no, and 1 abstained.[10] In the House, 202 Democrats voted yes, 60 voted no and 12 abstained, 118 Republicans voted yes, 10 voted no and 11 abstained.[11] In total, 74% of Democrats and 85% of Republicans voted for passage of this bill. Most of the no votes were from the American South, which was then still strongly Democratic. During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset".[12]

Senator Hiram Fong (R-HI) answered questions concerning the possible change in our cultural pattern by an influx of Asians:

"Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States ... with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 ... the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population .. .Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned." (U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965, pp.71, 119.)[13]

[Note: From 1966 to 1970, 19,399 immigrants came from Japan, more than three times Sen. Fong's estimate. Immigration from Asia as a whole has totaled 5,627,576 from 1966 to 1993. 6.8% of the American population is currently of Asian birth or heritage.]

Michael A. Feighan and other conservative Democrats had insisted that "family unification" should take priority over "employability", on the premise that such a weighting would maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. That change in policy instead resulted in Chain migration dominating the subsequent patterns of immigration to the United States.[14][15]

On October 3, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the legislation into law, saying, "This [old] system violates the basic principle of American democracy, the principle that values and rewards each man on the basis of his merit as a man. It has been un-American in the highest sense, because it has been untrue to the faith that brought thousands to these shores even before we were a country".[16]

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia

What it wasn't supposed to change was the restrictions on the numbers. That came later, under the following; the 'Chain migration' loophole, which was a Conservative invention, not a liberal one, is the main culprit, followed later by the usual Chamber Of Commerce and right wing business and Big Ag fan clubs who loved them some cheap illegal labor.

Right wing spammers really should not try and imitate their left wing fake news spammers if they truly want to finish off the current MSM and its partisan hackery.

LBJ led crucial legislation in 1965, changing the demographics of the U.S.

DANIEL J. TICHENORMAY 25, 2016


The law’s opponents warned that this open-ended immigration act would change the face of America dramatically. It did.

Migrants from Central America, South America, and Asia flooded the country, legally and illegally. Although Jesse Jackson popularized the notion of a multicultural rainbow in the 1980s, the 1990s experienced America’s largest immigration wave, to date. America’s Hispanic population grew by an estimated 1 million a year—10 times faster than the white population, from 22.4 million in 1990 to 35.3 million in 2000, becoming 12.5 percent of the population. The percentage of whites dropped from 80 percent in 1990 to 75 percent in 2000, with 69 percent non-Hispanic white.

Democracy and multi-culturalism does not work. Democracy requires trust - that the other members of your democracy won't vote to despoil you.

Thus the mess we are now in where we are in the midst of a verbal civil war....the hate exhibited by the leftwingers is unparalled in our society.

On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say

Steve Sailer

n the second half of the 20th Century, New York City experimented with taking progressivism seriously for a relatively brief period of time, with catastrophic results. But New Yorkers tend to be smart, pushy, and self-interested — as exemplified by a certain New York native in the news fairly frequently these days.

So, New York has junked many of the policies that nearly destroyed it, although you wouldn’t necessarily know about it from what most New Yorkers tell other Americans about how they ought to behave.

America finally discovered a non-sanctimonious typical New Yorker and elected him President.

But it’s worth paying attention to what white New Yorkers do rather than what they say. For example, New York City has in recent decades revamped its public schools fairly severely to make them more attractive to the white parents who pay most of the taxes. That is a good thing, and other cities should do it too.


On "Segregation", Do as New Yorkers Do, Not as They Say | Bl



What LBJ really said......................
LBJ on Immigration
President Lyndon B. Johnson's Remarks at the Signing of the Immigration Bill
Liberty Island, New York
October 3, 1965


What LBJ said about the radical immigration bill of l965:
Upon signing the Immigration Bill of 1965, President Johnson said that it was one of the most important acts of his administration - LBJ Presidential Library

Lyndon Johnson was the ultimate psychopath

BETTMANN / GETTY

Meaningless. Ted Kennedy sponsored it, LBJ wasn't in the Senate or the House at the time. Some speeches he made at the time don't mean a thing, any more than Thomas Jefferson's anti-slavery screeds meant he was opposed to slavery in real life. And besides, Republicans voted for it in higher percentages of their vote base than Democrats did, and so did conservatives.

LBJ was also looking ahead to when he would be facing trying to get Vietnamese and other Asian allies a place to go, along with possibly Israelis and other nationalities, due to the then uncertainties of the Cold War around the world, and did not want to strike an isolationist and racist pose at a critical time, when refugees were becoming pretty common.

Avoid getting historical tips from posters like PoliticalChic or ToddsterP; they can only lead people astray. Keep to the high ground, where you have mostly been so far. I like PolChic, she's an American patriot, but she has a peccadillo or two that are just nuts.

You understimate the power and the persuasive ability of LBJ....nothing made it through the legislatve process without his approval.

Kennedy dreamed.....LBJ achieved..

'Johnson, a favorite of the Democratic Party, was very famous for his scary, aggressive personality and the "Johnson treatment," his manipulation of powerful politicians in order to get legislation passed. A key element of LBJ's leadership was this famous "Johnson treatment," in which he would hypothetically "pop one's bubble" to demand their attention. No president has been so celebrated for his powers of persuasion in face-to-face confrontations than Lyndon Johnson has.

Johnson was often seen as a tireless, wildly ambitious, imposing figure who was ruthlessly effective at advancing legislation. He worked 18-20 hour days without break and took part in very few, if any, leisure activities. Many historians agree that there was perhaps no more powerful majority leader in American history. It seemed as if Johnson had biographies and footnotes on all of his opponents; as if he knew what their views, ambitions, hopes, and tastes were, and he would use these facts to his advantage when pushing motions. One Johnson biographer writes, "He would get up every day and learn what their fears, their desires, their wishes, their wants were and he could then manipulate, dominate, persuade and cajole them.” At 6’4”, He used his gigantic imposing physical size and intimidating personality to emphasize his point.

“The Treatment” could last anywhere from ten minutes or four hours and it would come whenever and wherever Johnson might find a fellow Senator or politician within his radius. “Its tone could be and included supplication, accusation, cajolery, exuberance, scorn, tears, complaint and the hint of threat.” All of these elements together brought out the spectrum of human emotions. Its velocity was breathtaking, and it was all in one direction. Interjections from the target were rare and even if they were attempted, Johnson would anticipate them before they could be successfully delivered. He would move in close, with his face a mere millimeter from his target, his eyes widening and narrowing, his eyebrows fluctuating, his pockets stuffed with clippings, memos, statistics and other research he had gathered on his target. All the elements LBJ used, "mimicry, humor, and the genius of analogy," in “The Treatment” rendered the target stunned, helpless, and obedient. It was this intimidating technique of persuasion that made Johnson one of the most feared politicians of the time and it is this persuasion technique that helped Johnson get control of, basically, whatever he wanted.'

“When that man started to work on you, all of a sudden, you just felt that you were standing under a waterfall and the stuff was pouring on you.” – Robert Dallek

The Johnson Treatment - American History II

 

[Trumpnation]

It is also important to understand that for Trump, changing the immigration paradigm and laws is a no compromise issue.

For him its his "gun" issue or "Abortion" issue. He might be willing to compromise on guns and abortion laws, but when it comes to immigration, he will insist on getting 100% of what he wants, changing the entire immigration system to meet his expectations so only the top 5% of immigrants are accepted. He will never compromise, never back down, and do whatever it takes to get his 100% of immigration changes. This will likely include the use of presidential powers in ways never intended by the Constitution and\or federal laws. For those who truly love and understand Donald Trump, laws, morality, ethics, the truth, the Constitution, etc, are just imaginary boundaries for him, and he has no difficulty crossing them when those imagination boundaries stand between him and his goals (ie Winning).

 

[Picaro]

You understimate the power and the persuasive ability of LBJ....nothing made it through the legislatve process without his approval.

You overestimate his power. The whole point of JFK offering him the VP slot was to get him out of power in the Senate, and that is what happened. Sam Rayburn died in 1961, his mentor and lifelong friend in the House. He couldn't even run for his 2nd term in 1968.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

You understimate the power and the persuasive ability of LBJ....nothing made it through the legislatve process without his approval.

You overestimate his power. The whole point of JFK offering him the VP slot was to get him out of power in the Senate, and that is what happened. Sam Rayburn died in 1961, his mentor and lifelong friend in the House. He couldn't even run for his 2nd term in 1968.

Your memory appears somewhat lacking....Kennedy had a big problem with a lot of voters because of his Catholicism....particuarly down South.......the real reason JFK picked LBJ for his running mate was to placate the South by choosing a Southerner and a protestant.

Johnson is Nominated for Vice President; Kennedy Picks Him to Placate the South

 

[Yousaidwhat]

The requirements for an Australia Skilled Visa are as follows:

• Age - you must be under 45 when you apply;
• English language - you should have sufficient ability in the English language to work in Australia (at least at a competent level);
• Nominated occupation - when you apply you nominate a skilled occupation, which fits your skills and qualifications. This occupation must be found on the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List;
• Skills assessment - before you apply, you must have your skills assessed by the Australian assessing authority designated to assess your nominated occupation (which will usually have specific qualifications requirements);
• Health assessment - you should be of reasonably good health and all applicants must have their health assessed by a panel doctor and undergo a medical examination; and
• Character assessment - you should be of good character and this too will be assessed.
• ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Spain

• • You may not be illegally in Spain. This is a bit moot, because this resident status is intendent for those who do not live in Spain yet.
  • You may not have a criminal record in Spain or in any other countries where you have resided for the past five years, for behaviours punished as crimes by Spanish legislation. That is, Spain allows you in if you have been convicted abroad of issues that are not crimes in Spain.
  • You may not be banned from Spain, or from certain other countries which have concluded an international treaty with Spain in that respect. For instance, if you are banned from Australia on grounds of reasonable suspiction of being a mafia leader, and Spain and Australia are parties to an international convention about this, you canot seek this status.
  • You must have sufficient economic means for you and, if need be, for your family members. "Sufficient economic means" is standarised as 2,130.04 € per month, plus 532.21 € per month for each family member.
  • You must have healthcare coverage in Spain, be it through the public system or by means of a private policy. Most likely the latter.
  • If, in the past, you have voluntary agreed to return to your country of origin and not to come back to Spain for a period of time, this compromise must have expired. This stems from certain official programmes that, in the wake of recession, promote the return of immigrants to their own countries.
  • You may not have any illness of those listed as particularly serious by the World Health Organisation in their International Health Regulations of 2005.
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
• Mexico
• To apply for and be granted a permanent resident visa, the applicants must:
  • have certain close family connections in Mexico, or
  • apply for retirement status and prove they have sufficient monthly income (or substantial assets) to support themselves, or
  • have 4 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident, or
  • have 2 consecutive years of regular status as Temporary Resident where that Temporary Visa was issued through marriage to a Mexican National or a foreign permanent resident, or
  • meet a minimum score under the Points System*, or
  • be granted residency on humanitarian grounds or through political asylum.
  If your goal is to seek long-term residency in Mexico, or to become a Mexican

Shame that the open borders crowd refuse to realize that you just can't walk into another country and demand they support you.

Including the Countries a majority of the illegal crossers are coming from.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Have you bothered to read the immigrant policies of different countries and then compared them to our own? Nope.
Until then...go educate yourself.

Thanks for info.

So you agree we should have the highest qualifications in the world, being #1. Thus ideally, like ivy league universities, the US should only accept 5 out very 100 people. Keep the bar extreme high so only the best of the best can come the US.

We have had a migrant workforce. Those wanting to work to support their entry.

This has been ignored through all the shouts of Racism and bigotry.

There are some who demand 0 immigration.

Most just expect those who come here to at least be able to support themselves and their families.

Insults and shouting down those who want an orderly system won't get their support. Affecting those who wish to come here. Including those who seek asylum and humanitarian assistance.

Those shouting the insults then accuse those who question the current system of lacking "Empathy."

All of us can relate to others and their suffering. Putting ourselves in their shoes. We've all had moments where we need a little "Empathy."

Do you feel their stress, their anxiety and suffering in your entire body?

Do you devote every waking moment to their suffering?

Does their suffering cause you physical and emotional stress?

This making you susceptible to feelings of depression and hopelessness?

Are you willing to offer so much empathy that it affects your own physical and emotional well being?

Are you demanding that others also forfeit their emotional and physical wellbeing in the name of empathy undermining your entire attempt to seek said empathy?

You can't force empathy, nor can you demand empathy.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

The OP reveals a complete lack of understanding of the depth of unAmerican values displayed by Trump and his followers.

Come on Jake.

You need to get out more and speak with those who you insult.

Are you seeking common ground or do you insult those around you who are expecting a rational conversation, seeking solutions to these issues?

 

[Yousaidwhat]

The OP reveals a complete lack of understanding of the depth of unAmerican values displayed by Trump and his followers.

I think the reality is about 30% of the US population has below normal empathy, so they will be further away from the center on most issues relating to humane treatment of people. Donald Trump is clearly narcissistic and pathological, so that 30% that have below normal empathy will identify with him; he reflects an extreme version of themselves, personal qualities they connect with and value. When they hear those recordings of sobbing babies\children, they don't feel anything negative about the circumstances of what it must be like for both parents and children who being separated by force not knowing, when, or even if, they will see each other again. For that 30%, the idea of giving the children strong prescription sedatives 24x7 is a much better solution than attempting to keep families together. For that 30%, empathy is something hard to understand and often considered a weakness. That is who they are, and who they will always be.

OH! PLEASE.

Another one who would rather insult and degrade those he disagrees with.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The OP reveals a complete lack of understanding of the depth of unAmerican values displayed by Trump and his followers.

Come on Jake.

You need to get out more and speak with those who you insult.

Are you seeking common ground or do you insult those around you who are expecting a rational conversation, seeking solutions to these issues?

Truth telling is never insulting. I am always willing to seek that which unites us rather than than that which divides us, but not at the price of going back to the fifties, adopting Reaganesque failed policies, or organized religion in the public square. I can be polite as anyone if treated politely.

 

[Picaro]

You understimate the power and the persuasive ability of LBJ....nothing made it through the legislatve process without his approval.

You overestimate his power. The whole point of JFK offering him the VP slot was to get him out of power in the Senate, and that is what happened. Sam Rayburn died in 1961, his mentor and lifelong friend in the House. He couldn't even run for his 2nd term in 1968.

Your memory appears somewhat lacking....Kennedy had a big problem with a lot of voters because of his Catholicism....particuarly down South.......the real reason JFK picked LBJ for his running mate was to placate the South by choosing a Southerner and a protestant.

Johnson is Nominated for Vice President; Kennedy Picks Him to Placate the South

LBJ wasn't a southerner, he was a Texan, and Texans weren't Dixiecrats; he was in fact the Senator who broke 'The Solid South' in the 1950's; they hated him. He hated Bobby Kennedy and Ted, so they needed him out of there; they offered him the VP slot, and his ego did the rest.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

You understimate the power and the persuasive ability of LBJ....nothing made it through the legislatve process without his approval.

You overestimate his power. The whole point of JFK offering him the VP slot was to get him out of power in the Senate, and that is what happened. Sam Rayburn died in 1961, his mentor and lifelong friend in the House. He couldn't even run for his 2nd term in 1968.

Your memory appears somewhat lacking....Kennedy had a big problem with a lot of voters because of his Catholicism....particuarly down South.......the real reason JFK picked LBJ for his running mate was to placate the South by choosing a Southerner and a protestant.

Johnson is Nominated for Vice President; Kennedy Picks Him to Placate the South

LBJ wasn't a southerner, he was a Texan, and Texans weren't Dixiecrats; he was in fact the Senator who broke 'The Solid South' in the 1950's; they hated him. He hated Bobby Kennedy and Ted, so they needed him out of there; they offered him the VP slot, and his ego did the rest.

Well, of course you are entitled to your opinion....Irregardless of the facts.

Aka...................
1960: JFK also picks his biggest rival as vice president

'Two men with strong personalities fought bitterly at the end of the 1960 Democratic nomination process, with Kennedy managing a first-ballot nomination in Los Angeles. Johnson also publicly proclaimed that his role as Senate majority leader was more important than being vice president. So it wasn’t a surprise when reporters gasped when Kennedy announced Johnson as his pick at a press conference; Orville Freeman, Stuart Symington and Hubert Humphrey were the rumored contenders. Kennedy and his advisers knew that Johnson would strengthen the Democratic ticket in the South.'

A look at five unexpected vice presidential nominations - National Constitution Center

 

[oldsoul]

You're not stating what you believe, or providing any counter argument or facts for others to consider.

True. I am shedding light on the FACT that, though you propose to know what you are talking about, you do not. You refuse to get educated, and merely repeat your untruths, apparently hoping that repetition equals truth and fact. If someone were to challenge a person who actually has facts and truth on their side, they would, likely, respond with such facts, truth, and supporting documentation. You chose not to do that. You chose to reword and repeat your untruths, and flawed information. Thus, unwittingly, supporting my position. Thank you.

 

[Trumpnation]

True. I am shedding light on the FACT that, though you propose to know what you are talking about, you do not. You refuse to get educated, and merely repeat your untruths, apparently hoping that repetition equals truth and fact. If someone were to challenge a person who actually has facts and truth on their side, they would, likely, respond with such facts, truth, and supporting documentation. You chose not to do that. You chose to reword and repeat your untruths, and flawed information. Thus, unwittingly, supporting my position. Thank you.

Hmmm, it does appear your comment is a self-reflection of your comment. And, you're not even reflecting an understanding of anything specific, ether right or wrong. Your entire comment could be applied anything someone might stated whether it be factual, Conservative, Liberal, or out right crazy.

 

[oldsoul]

True. I am shedding light on the FACT that, though you propose to know what you are talking about, you do not. You refuse to get educated, and merely repeat your untruths, apparently hoping that repetition equals truth and fact. If someone were to challenge a person who actually has facts and truth on their side, they would, likely, respond with such facts, truth, and supporting documentation. You chose not to do that. You chose to reword and repeat your untruths, and flawed information. Thus, unwittingly, supporting my position. Thank you.

Hmmm, it does appear your comment is a self-reflection of your comment. And, you're not even reflecting an understanding of anything specific, ether right or wrong. Your entire comment could be applied anything someone might stated whether it be factual, Conservative, Liberal, or out right crazy.

You seem to be finally getting it. I am not trying to discuss the topic at all. That would be futile, as you are sadly uninformed. Get yourself informed, then we can talk.