Clown lie: Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

[Meister]

Meister, post: 16674114

Are you in denial of Obamacare's death spiral?

Are you aware of RINOCare's death spiral if it passes. Just listen to Mark Levin.

Trump's pushing the biggest deficit exploding entitlement package ever in US History according to Levin.

ObamaCare is better than what Trump Ryan an McConnell are pushing.

Fortunately the Senate won't pass it if it makes it through the House.

Only need 3 GOP Senators to oppose it.

Obamacare can't continue, it's dead. They do need to do better than the Ryan plan, but it isn't worse than obamacare.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Meister, post: 16751389

Obamacare can't continue, it's dead. They do need to do better than the Ryan plan, but it isn't worse than obamacare.

If Obamacare is dead why are Republicans doing a fake repeal. Why are they keeping the main parts of Obamacare that everyone likes while cutting taxes on the wealthy and expanding government paid entitlements to the upper middle class.

It's a budget buster.

It's dubbed RINOCARE for a reason. Repeal In Name Only.

That's not me saying that. it's Conservatives in great numbers.

But some poor are going to lose coverage so on top of everything we will still subsidize them through fifty dollar aspirin if you end up in a hospital bed.

 

[Meister]

Meister, post: 16751389

Obamacare can't continue, it's dead. They do need to do better than the Ryan plan, but it isn't worse than obamacare.

If Obamacare is dead why are Republicans doing a fake repeal. Why are they keeping the main parts of Obamacare that everyone likes while cutting taxes on the wealthy and expanding government paid entitlements to the upper middle class.

It's a budget buster.

It's dubbed RINOCARE for a reason. Repeal In Name Only.

That's not me saying that. it's Conservatives in great numbers.

But some poor are going to lose coverage so on top of everything we will still subsidize them through fifty dollar aspirin if you end up in a hospital bed.

Have you even seen the carriers dropping like flies from obamacare? Yes, it's dead, dude.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Meister, post: 16752514

Have you even seen the carriers dropping like flies from obamacare? Yes, it's dead, dude.

How many, where and when.

The CBO just released its scoring of RINOCARE. ObamaCare in their comparison provided more coverage for more people and lower affordable costs for the poor and elderly And remains a viable health care delivery system.

Trumpcare is rated horrible and will specifically hit Trump's Red State working poor and pre-Medicare elderly base the hardest while giving tax breaks for the rich.

Do you think Trump should stick to his promises to provide cheaper better health care for everybody and veto this atrocious TRUMPcare bill or something the far right wants to do that will be even worse. And worse faster. Disaster healthcare prior to the 2018 midterms. Tens of millions losing coverage.

Is that what deplorables voted for to get from TRUMPTY Dumpty?

 

[whitehall]

What did democrats say before they passed the gigantic monstrosity that will bankrupt most middle class Americans in another year or two? The then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said "you will find out what's in the bill after it is passed". Democrats never read the freaking thing before they voted for it.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

whitehall, post: 16788333

What did democrats say before they passed the gigantic monstrosity that will bankrupt most middle class Americans in another year or two? The then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said "you will find out what's in the bill after it is passed". Democrats never read the freaking thing before they voted for it.

An old worn out right wing talking point.

You have to come up with something newer than attacking Obama to start undoing Trump's horrendous first fifty days as President.

Obama left office popular. Lies like the ACA will bankrupt most middle class Americans in another year or two has lost it right wing razzle dazzle.

Your right wing lizard brains are not focused on what's important. RINOCARE is a looming disaster if Trump signs it. But:


Deutshe bank is right now under investigation and fined for laundering Russian Oligarch money. One high ranking Deutshe Bank official resigned during the scandal. He now has taken a position at a bank in Cypress Turkey. At that Turkish bank he sits alongside the Russian Oligarch that paid Trump Fifty Million more for a Florida mansion than what Trump paid for it a few years earlier. The Russian Oligarch never moved in and the $100 million mansion has been demolished. Kind of odd, but Trump profited fifty million on one real estate sale.

Just some recent headlines about the Russian money laundering Cypress Bank.

Donald Trump cabinet member and business associate co-owned Russian ...
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Feb 27, 2017 - But as it turns out, Deutsche Bankwas laundering the money through Bank of Cyprus. The two most prominent owners of Bank ...

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AMP - Feb 27, 2017 - The White House has been accused of withholding information from Congress about whether Donald Trump or any of his campaign affiliates have ever received loans from a bank in Cyprus that is partly owned by a close ally of Russian president Vladimir Putin. ... Ross also received a ...

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AMP - Feb 27, 2017 - Nelson said Ross assured him he knew of no nexus among Russians, the Cyprus bank and figures in the Trump ...

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Mar 3, 2017 - Russian Bank Server Likely Communicated With Trump Org ...... of Cyprus: In 2014, Wilbur Ross bailed out the Cyprus bank, ...

Deutch bank was being investigated by the NYC prosecutor that Trump asked to resign last Friday. That prosecutor refused to resign and he forced Trump to actually fire him. That firing gave the prosecutor an extra 24 hours to wrap up and protect his investigation of Deutche Bank from burial.

Whoa who is Wilber Ross? Trump's pick for Commerce Secretary. Great.

Flynn didn't register as a foreign agent for the Government of Turkey while serving as Trump's first National Security Advisor.

Cypress bank is in Turkey. Deutshe Bank is connected to Russian money laundering and to the Russian money laundering Cypress bank in Turkey.

Trump just fired the NYC attorney general deep into the investigation into a high profile Deutshe Bank scandal.

Trump owes Deutshe Bank millions of dollars.

Stay tuned. Or keep bitching about Obama.

 

[NYcarbineer]

SassyIrishLass, post: 16672330

The OP must have free Obunglescare and is afraid he'll be forced to pay his own way

Sorry, deplorable. Like most Americans I'm insured through my employer. My wife works for the DOD and we would be insured from there if need be. And I'm qualified for Medicare if I decide to retire. Never got anything for free my whole life.

I'm not a Trump. I pay taxes to defend my country and don't mind people needing medical help getting it with help from the government I pay plenty of taxes to support.

Lol @ deplorable...a title I wear with pride...we deplorables kicked your sorry ass last Nov.

Hitler won an election once too.

 

[Meister]

Meister, post: 16752514

Have you even seen the carriers dropping like flies from obamacare? Yes, it's dead, dude.

How many, where and when.

The CBO just released its scoring of RINOCARE. ObamaCare in their comparison provided more coverage for more people and lower affordable costs for the poor and elderly And remains a viable health care delivery system.

Trumpcare is rated horrible and will specifically hit Trump's Red State working poor and pre-Medicare elderly base the hardest while giving tax breaks for the rich.

Do you think Trump should stick to his promises to provide cheaper better health care for everybody and veto this atrocious TRUMPcare bill or something the far right wants to do that will be even worse. And worse faster. Disaster healthcare prior to the 2018 midterms. Tens of millions losing coverage.

Is that what deplorables voted for to get from TRUMPTY Dumpty?

You have to be joking, we know the debacle that was passed by your messiah.
We don't have a Bill passed by the Senate and Congress, so hold on to your panties
until we do. If I have to tell you about the carriers dropping out of Obama's debacle,
well thats your stupidity and I can't fix stupid.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Meister, post: 16789255

until we do. If I have to tell you about the carriers dropping out of Obama's debacle,
well thats your stupidity and I can't fix stupid.

You make the claim that it is Obama's debacle.

You don't consider the affects that red state resistance to the ACA have been.

Insurers that focus on insuring poor and sick people seem to be doing ok.

The big insurers want to focus on employer provided coverage where the vast majority of Americans get coverage.

What you are arguing actually is your unintended case for a federal public option in areas where big greedy's don't want to go.

Why not have the public option where OH costs are five percent instead the 20% ripoff from big insurers.

And you do not add in the instability that Trump and Republicans holding Congress have given the market place since the election.

RINOCARE as proposed is upsetting whatever stability existed prior to the bizarre Trump win and incompetent handling of running the executive branch thus far.

But if you like tens of millions losing health insurance as a good thing and you think the healthy won't pay the costs in emergency rooms across the nation for sick uninsured people needing care, you are nuts.

If you think hospitals should not treat people without the means to pay you are cruel.

If you think people that are hit with a serious medical condition without insurance should go bankrupt and lose their homes to stay alive you are heartless.

You appear to have your heart and sympathy with big insurance.

Just want to know which ones you think are so wonderful.

Name some names.

But also consider the various causes and people hurt much worse under proposed RINOCARE.

 

[Claudette]

"Taken care of"? Maybe the rhetoric should say "taken advantage of". The Hussein administration put middle class families in debit because they couldn't afford the mandatory insurance packages or the $10,000 deductible. Farm families live with cuts and scrapes and broken bones that used to be covered by insurance and a modest two or three hundred dollar deductible but now they have to learn to set bones and stitch up wounds because Hussein made a visit to the emergency room too expensive. In the mean time the illegal parasites on the economy get free visits to the E.R. for obesity related illnesses.

I agree. People should pay for their own health care and we taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay for anyone but ourselves.

The ONLY people who liked the ACA were the people the rest of us were forced to pay for. Everyone else saw higher costs. We had to pay for ourselves and them. Not a good deal in my estimation.

 

[Claudette]

Meister, post: 16752514

Have you even seen the carriers dropping like flies from obamacare? Yes, it's dead, dude.

How many, where and when.

The CBO just released its scoring of RINOCARE. ObamaCare in their comparison provided more coverage for more people and lower affordable costs for the poor and elderly And remains a viable health care delivery system.

Trumpcare is rated horrible and will specifically hit Trump's Red State working poor and pre-Medicare elderly base the hardest while giving tax breaks for the rich.

Do you think Trump should stick to his promises to provide cheaper better health care for everybody and veto this atrocious TRUMPcare bill or something the far right wants to do that will be even worse. And worse faster. Disaster healthcare prior to the 2018 midterms. Tens of millions losing coverage.

Is that what deplorables voted for to get from TRUMPTY Dumpty?

You have to be joking, we know the debacle that was passed by your messiah.
We don't have a Bill passed by the Senate and Congress, so hold on to your panties
until we do. If I have to tell you about the carriers dropping out of Obama's debacle,
well thats your stupidity and I can't fix stupid.

I agree and Trump has already stated that he's open for negotiations on the health care program.

It won't be shoved down our throats like that POS the ACA.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservative economic policy ALWAYS tries to widen the gap between rich and poor.

Trumpcare is a perfect example of that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Taken care of"? Maybe the rhetoric should say "taken advantage of". The Hussein administration put middle class families in debit because they couldn't afford the mandatory insurance packages or the $10,000 deductible. Farm families live with cuts and scrapes and broken bones that used to be covered by insurance and a modest two or three hundred dollar deductible but now they have to learn to set bones and stitch up wounds because Hussein made a visit to the emergency room too expensive. In the mean time the illegal parasites on the economy get free visits to the E.R. for obesity related illnesses.

I agree. People should pay for their own health care and we taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay for anyone but ourselves.

The ONLY people who liked the ACA were the people the rest of us were forced to pay for. Everyone else saw higher costs. We had to pay for ourselves and them. Not a good deal in my estimation.

You want the rich to be richer and the poor to be poorer if you support this bill. You want lower income people to lose and higher income people to win if you support this bill.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This bill takes healthcare affordability away from lower income Americans and converts it into a massive tax cut for upper income Americans.

 

[Claudette]

"Taken care of"? Maybe the rhetoric should say "taken advantage of". The Hussein administration put middle class families in debit because they couldn't afford the mandatory insurance packages or the $10,000 deductible. Farm families live with cuts and scrapes and broken bones that used to be covered by insurance and a modest two or three hundred dollar deductible but now they have to learn to set bones and stitch up wounds because Hussein made a visit to the emergency room too expensive. In the mean time the illegal parasites on the economy get free visits to the E.R. for obesity related illnesses.

I agree. People should pay for their own health care and we taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay for anyone but ourselves.

The ONLY people who liked the ACA were the people the rest of us were forced to pay for. Everyone else saw higher costs. We had to pay for ourselves and them. Not a good deal in my estimation.

You want the rich to be richer and the poor to be poorer if you support this bill. You want lower income people to lose and higher income people to win if you support this bill.

Nope. I want people to take care of themselves and there is no reason they can't.

Only a socialist moron like you would volunteer Americans to foot the bills for others.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Taken care of"? Maybe the rhetoric should say "taken advantage of". The Hussein administration put middle class families in debit because they couldn't afford the mandatory insurance packages or the $10,000 deductible. Farm families live with cuts and scrapes and broken bones that used to be covered by insurance and a modest two or three hundred dollar deductible but now they have to learn to set bones and stitch up wounds because Hussein made a visit to the emergency room too expensive. In the mean time the illegal parasites on the economy get free visits to the E.R. for obesity related illnesses.

I agree. People should pay for their own health care and we taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay for anyone but ourselves.

The ONLY people who liked the ACA were the people the rest of us were forced to pay for. Everyone else saw higher costs. We had to pay for ourselves and them. Not a good deal in my estimation.

You want the rich to be richer and the poor to be poorer if you support this bill. You want lower income people to lose and higher income people to win if you support this bill.

Nope. I want people to take care of themselves and there is no reason they can't.

Only a socialist moron like you would volunteer Americans to foot the bills for others.

You can deny it all you want but it won't change the truth.

 

[Claudette]

"Taken care of"? Maybe the rhetoric should say "taken advantage of". The Hussein administration put middle class families in debit because they couldn't afford the mandatory insurance packages or the $10,000 deductible. Farm families live with cuts and scrapes and broken bones that used to be covered by insurance and a modest two or three hundred dollar deductible but now they have to learn to set bones and stitch up wounds because Hussein made a visit to the emergency room too expensive. In the mean time the illegal parasites on the economy get free visits to the E.R. for obesity related illnesses.

I agree. People should pay for their own health care and we taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay for anyone but ourselves.

The ONLY people who liked the ACA were the people the rest of us were forced to pay for. Everyone else saw higher costs. We had to pay for ourselves and them. Not a good deal in my estimation.

You want the rich to be richer and the poor to be poorer if you support this bill. You want lower income people to lose and higher income people to win if you support this bill.

Nope. I want people to take care of themselves and there is no reason they can't.

Only a socialist moron like you would volunteer Americans to foot the bills for others.

You can deny it all you want but it won't change the truth.

If you say so moron.

 

[Iceweasel]

Conservative economic policy ALWAYS tries to widen the gap between rich and poor.

Trumpcare is a perfect example of that.

That's a dumb lie. Liberal policies try to do the opposite of what you stated so you think the opposite is true. You lived off the public dime, go open a espresso stand and get back to us with your conservative spending garbage.

 

[Mac1958]

“I am going to take care of everybody,” Trump said. “I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

Remember, we're supposed to "take him seriously, but not literally."

So what he MEANT by that was "I have no idea what this thing is going to look like, because I have no idea what I'm talking about, I just make shit up as I go."

So it's really just in the interpretation.
.

 

[Iceweasel]

Meister, post: 16789255

until we do. If I have to tell you about the carriers dropping out of Obama's debacle,
well thats your stupidity and I can't fix stupid.

You make the claim that it is Obama's debacle.

You don't consider the affects that red state resistance to the ACA have been.

Insurers that focus on insuring poor and sick people seem to be doing ok.

The Easter Bunny told you that, I bet. No, the poor get subsidized, you don't make money by losing money.

The fact is that the ACA was doomed to failure. It can't work, the young do not want to support the old. Can't say I blame them either.