Closure of Al-Aqsa mosque for first time by IOF terrorists

[Shusha]

Did Britain declare that a Jewish State was to be founded onto the territory of the British Mandate Palestine - if so show me a map of that "specific" Jewish territory.

Of course Britain declared that a Jewish State was to be founded in Palestine. Have you not read the Mandate for Palestine?! Other than carving off Trans-Jordan, there has never been new boundaries drawn within Western Palestine. There has never been a legal document which outlines boundaries drawn within Western Palestine. My claim that it is ALL Israel is much more coherent than some strange idea that Britain intended a division within Western Palestine but just ... FORGOT to put it in any of the legal documents? Or that Britain meant for it to go to another Party, but ... FORGOT to write it down?

 

[Kruska]

Of course Britain declared that a Jewish State was to be founded in Palestine. Have you not read the Mandate for Palestine?! Other than carving off Trans-Jordan, there has never been new boundaries drawn within Western Palestine. There has never been a legal document which outlines boundaries drawn within Western Palestine. My claim that it is ALL Israel is much more coherent than some strange idea that Britain intended a division within Western Palestine but just ... FORGOT to put it in any of the legal documents? Or that Britain meant for it to go to another Party, but ... FORGOT to write it down?

That's exactly the "nonsense and unsubstantiated argument" of a Zionist running out of excuses, due to which I stopped further discussions with you two years ago. Therefore you evidently gave proof that YOU are indeed one of those Head Zionist Wackos.

"Therefore the Jordanians got their share in 1946 when Transjordan became an independent kingdom, hence the rest, ALL belongs solely to the Jews."
Hmm.. didn't you also bring this up??

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum, that determines the future of the PEOPLES that live in Palestine.
And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

Or just read my signature VERY carefully

 

[Shusha]

That's exactly the "nonsense and unsubstantiated argument" of a Zionist running out of arguments, due to which I stopped further discussions with you two years ago. Therefore you evidently gave proof that YOU are indeed one of those Head Zionist Wackos.

"Therefore the Jordanians got their share in 1946 when Transjordan became an independent kingdom, hence the rest, ALL belongs solely to the Jews."
Hmm.. didn't you also bring this up??

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum, that determines the future of the PEOPLES that live in Palestine.
And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

Or just read my signature VERY carefully

I always thought it you starting to post in bold red was the indicator of you losing an argument.

I've backed up every single one of my claims with the text of legal documents. IF you need me to do so again, I can, but if you are arguing this stuff, you should already know.

Here is the path I've outlined:
1. The Jewish people, just exactly the same as other peoples, put a claim in with the Parties Concerned.
2. The claim of the Jewish people was recognized in theory. Just the same as the claim of the Hashemite Kingdom was recognized in theory.
3. Both claims were based on equal rights to self-determination as written in the UN Charter.
4. The Mandate for Palestine boundaries were clear and exact, including the separation of Western Palestine (Israel) and Trans-Jordan.
5. The claim of the Jewish people was recognized and became fact in law through the Mandate for Palestine, which clearly gives over government control of the territory for the Mandate for Palestine to the Jewish people in service of their recognized right to re-constitute their national homeland in Palestine and references no other peoples as rights-holders (excluding Trans-Jordan). In the same way, the claim of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan was recognized in law through treaties and agreements with the Parties Concerned.
6. There has never been any legal division within the territory of the Western Mandate, therefore it remains an undivided territorial unit under territorial integrity of its sovereign.
7. Israel and Jordan developed their governments in accordance with the Montevideo Convention and with the conditions of the Mandates.
8. Israel and Jordan declare Independence from the Mandate.
9. Uti posseditis juris. The boundaries of the previous administration become the boundaries of the new States.
10. Both Israel and Jordan are admitted to the UN.
11. Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Egypt conquer and control territory outside their sovereign territorial boundaries by force. (Contrary to the UN Charter).

Now. Your arguments seem to be:
1. The UN Charter demands equal rights to self-determination, except the Jewish people are ineligible for that equal right, even when the Parties Concerned have explicitly recognized those rights and committed them to treaty law.
2. Jordan has a legal claim to territory outside its sovereign territory.

I have brought evidence for all my claims. Now bring me some evidence for yours.

 

[Kruska]

I always thought it you starting to post in bold red was the indicator of you losing an argument.

I've backed up every single one of my claims with the text of legal documents. IF you need me to do so again, I can, but if you are arguing this stuff, you should already know.

Here is the path I've outlined:
1. The Jewish people, just exactly the same as other peoples, put a claim in with the Parties Concerned.
2. The claim of the Jewish people was recognized in theory. Just the same as the claim of the Hashemite Kingdom was recognized in theory.
3. Both claims were based on equal rights to self-determination as written in the UN Charter.
4. The Mandate for Palestine boundaries were clear and exact, including the separation of Western Palestine (Israel) and Trans-Jordan.
5. The claim of the Jewish people was recognized and became fact in law through the Mandate for Palestine, which clearly gives over government control of the territory for the Mandate for Palestine to the Jewish people in service of their recognized right to re-constitute their national homeland in Palestine and references no other peoples as rights-holders (excluding Trans-Jordan). In the same way, the claim of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan was recognized in law through treaties and agreements with the Parties Concerned.
6. There has never been any legal division within the territory of the Western Mandate, therefore it remains an undivided territorial unit under territorial integrity of its sovereign.
7. Israel and Jordan developed their governments in accordance with the Montevideo Convention and with the conditions of the Mandates.
8. Israel and Jordan declare Independence from the Mandate.
9. Uti posseditis juris. The boundaries of the previous administration become the boundaries of the new States.
10. Both Israel and Jordan are admitted to the UN.
11. Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Egypt conquer and control territory outside their sovereign territorial boundaries by force. (Contrary to the UN Charter).

Now. Your arguments seem to be:
1. The UN Charter demands equal rights to self-determination, except the Jewish people are ineligible for that equal right, even when the Parties Concerned have explicitly recognized those rights and committed them to treaty law.
2. Jordan has a legal claim to territory outside its sovereign territory.

I have brought evidence for all my claims. Now bring me some evidence for yours.

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum, that determines the future of the PEOPLES that live in Palestine.
And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

Or just read my signature VERY very slow and carefully

 

[Shusha]

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum,

Show me the referendum. Or what you think the referendum might have been. I can't address it if I don't know what it is. Who is trying to secede? What are they trying to secede from? What is the territory of secession? What is the government of the seceding entity? (I don't know why you are bringing the UN into this. The UN is not required for a referendum to be called.)

And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

From the preamble of the Mandate for Palestine (emphasis mine):
to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them;

You have already provided said map of the boundaries fixed by the Powers for the Mandate for Palestine. You have also claimed that those boundaries are exact and precise. I concur. We agree. That's the map where the British delineated the (Western) Mandate for Palestine. Did you have another map which divides that territory with new boundaries? If not, the existing map is what we are working with. Everything else is just in your imagination.

 

[Kruska]

Show me the referendum. Or what you think the referendum might have been. I can't address it if I don't know what it is. Who is trying to secede? What are they trying to secede from? What is the territory of secession? What is the government of the seceding entity? (I don't know why you are bringing the UN into this. The UN is not required for a referendum to be called.)

From the preamble of the Mandate for Palestine (emphasis mine):
to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them;

You have already provided said map of the boundaries fixed by the Powers for the Mandate for Palestine. You have also claimed that those boundaries are exact and precise. I concur. We agree. That's the map where the British delineated the (Western) Mandate for Palestine. Did you have another map which divides that territory with new boundaries? If not, the existing map is what we are working with. Everything else is just in your imagination.

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum, that determines the future of the PEOPLES that live in Palestine.

And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

Or just read my signature VERY very slow and intensivly

 

[Shusha]

Now show me that UN resolution, that would have stated - only Jews are allowed to participate in a referendum, that determines the future of the PEOPLES that live in Palestine.

You have set up a false premise. Repeating it just silly.

In secessional referendums, ONLY the people who are wishing to secede vote on the secession. The people of Alberta do not vote on whether or not Quebec secedes from Canada. Only the people of Quebec vote to secede from Canada. (And the UN has nothing to do with it. Still.)

So. IF Arabs would like to secede from [insert name of state], ONLY the Arabs would vote. IF Jews would like to secede from [insert name of state], ONLY Jews would vote.

 

[0311]

In March 2026, Israeli terrorists closed Al-Aqsa Mosque and heavily restricted access to Jerusalem’s Old City for the first time since 1967, citing security concerns related to the ongoing US‑Israeli war on Iran.

IOF terrorists prevented tens of thousands of Muslims from entering Islam’s third holiest site during Ramadan’s final ten nights, a period usually marked by overflowing courtyards and all‑night prayers.

Elderly Jerusalemites who have attended Taraweeh at Al-Aqsa for decades describe this Ramadan as one of the most painful of their lives, saying that praying outside its walls feels like having “something very precious” taken away.

Being turned back at checkpoints, searched, or assaulted simply for trying to reach the mosque has produced deep sadness, but also a sharpened sense of solidarity among Palestinians who now stand shoulder to shoulder in prayer in the surrounding streets.

Foreign ministers of several Arab and Muslim‑majority states have condemned the closure, calling it a flagrant violation of international law and of the historical and legal status quo that guarantees unrestricted access to places of worship.

Their statement reiterates that the entire Al-Aqsa Mosque compound is an exclusively Muslim place of worship and urges the international community to compel Israel, as the occupying power, to reopen the gates and lift access restrictions.

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/a-declaration-of-war-closure-of-al-aqsa-mosque-raises-alarm-during-ramadan/

Across centuries, Al-Aqsa has symbolized a blessed land where prophets lived and preached. Muslims in every region keep Al-Aqsa alive in their sermons and supplications. It was also the first qibla (direction of prayer) for Muslims, which means that, beforeAsq turning towards the Kaaba, the earliest Muslim community oriented its daily worship toward Jerusalem.

Netanyahood knows how important Al-Asqa is Muslims and he knows what he has will result in even more violence. Just what he wants.

 

[Shusha]

And don't forget to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

There is only one map. There is only one place for the Jewish homeland. If you have a different map, you will have to provide it. I can't argue against something that is only in your imagination.

 

[Shusha]

Netanyahood knows how important Al-Asqa is Muslims and he knows what he has will result in even more violence. Just what he wants.

Justifying violence again, are we?

 

[Kruska]

You have set up a false premise. Repeating it just silly.

In secessional referendums, ONLY the people who are wishing to secede vote on the secession. The people of Alberta do not vote on whether or not Quebec secedes from Canada. Only the people of Quebec vote to secede from Canada. (And the UN has nothing to do with it. Still.)

So. IF Arabs would like to secede from [insert name of state], ONLY the Arabs would vote. IF Jews would like to secede from [insert name of state], ONLY Jews would vote.

And the Province of Québec is outlined by cartographic maps. And not some "unknown & promised homeland", within Canada.

So I am waiting for YOU to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

 

[Shusha]

And the Province of Québec is outlined by cartographic maps. And not some "unknown & promised homeland", within Canada.

So I am waiting for YOU to present that map, where the British outlined/cartographed that supposed Jewish Homeland.

Did you miss my post #109? That is the only map. There isn't another one. Those are the boundaries as fixed by the Powers for the reconstitution of the Jewish homeland.

 

[Kruska]

Did you miss my post #109? That is the only map. There isn't another one. Those are the boundaries as fixed by the Powers for the reconstitution of the Jewish homeland.

Show me that chartographed map, issued and signed by Britain that would "detail" this promised Jewish Homeland.

Forwarding a well-known map of British Mandated Palestine - doesn't proof anything!!! aside TOTALLY UNSUBSTANTIATED Zionist fantasies.

 

[Shusha]

Show me that chartographed map, issued and signed by Britain that would "detail" this promised Jewish Homeland.

Um. You haven't read the Mandate for Palestine? You know, THAT legal document issued and signed by Britain that detailed the promised Jewish homeland? You really should read that, you know.

 

[Kruska]

Um. You haven't read the Mandate for Palestine? You know, THAT legal document issued and signed by Britain that detailed the promised Jewish homeland? You really should read that, you know.

Thanks for lending ample proof to my signature!

 

[Shusha]

Thanks for lending ample proof to my signature!

Dude. You are incoherent. Are you seriously trying to claim that the Mandate for Palestine isn't a legal document? Or that it wasn't signed by Britain? Or that it doesn't detail the Jewish homeland and its governing institutions?

Well, I guess we can just add that to the list of claims you've made for which you have brought zero evidence:

1. The UN Charter demands equal rights to self-determination, except the Jewish people are ineligible for that equal right, even when the Parties Concerned have explicitly recognized those rights and committed them to treaty law.
2. Jordan has a legal claim to territory outside its sovereign territory.
3. The Mandate for Palestine doesn't mention the Jewish people, their right to a homeland in Palestine, or their governing institutions.

Next, you'll be claiming that Western Palestine was meant to be a State for some other peoples and Britain just forgot to write it down.

 

[0311]

This would be akin to the Pope shuttering every Jewish House of Worship in Europe. Think that all Zionists.

 

[Shusha]

This would be akin to the Pope shuttering every Jewish House of Worship in Europe. Think that all Zionists.

Except it wasn't. It was a prohibition on public gatherings. All places of worship were closed, as well as all non-essential services.

 

[Kruska]

Well, I guess we can just add that to the list of claims you've made for which you have brought zero evidence:

The only one who has "constantly" failed to bring evidence is YOU, and your Zionist pals.

Instead of continuing your hopeless & ridiculous task of defending the ILLEGAL State of Israel - spend more time to read books - or even watch the two following video-clips - which make it evidently clear that the PALESTINIAN Arabs are the direct descendants of the Canaanites. Who constituted an ABSOLUTE majority among the Jews, Christians and Muslims living between 1900 - 1948 in Palestine. YOU (Zionist) factually ROBBED your brothers lands - drove them out and keep persecuting and killing them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who constituted an ABSOLUTE majority among the Jews, Christians and Muslims living between 1900 - 1948 in Palestine.

I guess they should have built a state on the land they were offered, eh?