Climate engineering and California drought?

[skookerasbil]

A growing number of people in California are getting behind this. The fact that it is being presented on a major network and showing up on DRUDGE today means it has gotten the attention of the media = significant.


Growing Number Believe California's Drought Is A Government Conspiracy

Anybody with half a brain and who looks up into the sky in 2015 AND who is over 40 years of age knows that these vapor trails did not present in the same way when we were kids. Trails back then disappeared shortly after the jet passed. But not now......these gigantic floating blobs of material stay in the sky for 45 minutes to an hour and get wider and wider. They don't dissipate.........they remain there hovering. And since when did the sky ever look like an ETCH-A-SKETCH board back in the day?

Last summer here on Long Island, we had such an ETCH-A-SKETCH day and the next day, we got 9 inches of rain in 3 hours.........a record for Long Island. duh.

Of course........not a single AGW alarmist will lend this stuff any credence for even an instant because it blows the shit out of their phony narrative, not to mention how naïve these people are in their blind trust of the government.

Im heartened that this is being recognized by the public in general

 

[skookerasbil]

CBS News s0ns!!!!

 

[peach174]

Interesting that they would believe in government controlling the climate rather than the environmentalists who really is helping to cause the drought.
Do they even know that California has always had a history of droughts?
They used to be managed to include the periods of droughts but the environmentalists have caused much of the problems rather than solutions.
California drought: Past dry periods have lasted more than 200 years, scientists say
California's current drought is being billed as the driest period in the state's recorded rainfall history. But scientists who study the West's long-term climate patterns say the state has been parched for much longer stretches before that 163-year historical period began.

LEAKED: Environmentalists Caused California Drought to Protect This Fish [Video]
It is believed to be partially man-made because of California’s extreme environmental regulations that are literally flushing fresh water out to sea.

So which is it?
Natural or man's environmental regulations?
I say both.

 

[skookerasbil]

Interesting that they would believe in government controlling the climate rather than the environmentalists who really is helping to cause the drought.
Do they even know that California has always had a history of droughts?
They used to be managed to include the periods of droughts but the environmentalists have caused much of the problems rather than solutions.
California drought: Past dry periods have lasted more than 200 years, scientists say
California's current drought is being billed as the driest period in the state's recorded rainfall history. But scientists who study the West's long-term climate patterns say the state has been parched for much longer stretches before that 163-year historical period began.

LEAKED: Environmentalists Caused California Drought to Protect This Fish [Video]
It is believed to be partially man-made because of California’s extreme environmental regulations that are literally flushing fresh water out to sea.

So which is it?
Natural or man's environmental regulations?
I say both.

Peach..........I always burst out laughing when I post this gem up!!!


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Talk about in one fell swoop, kicking the AGW nutty-asses in the groin on this climate change/drought BS!!!


Nobody knows dick about whats causing the drought but some of the aluminum levels in the rainwater in some Ca counties where they see lots of chemtrails is very disturbing to me. Interestingly, the so called "environmentalists" in this forum don't give a rats ass!!!

 

[mamooth]

Only the dopiest of the conspiracy kooks babble about chemtrails.

Skook, you're embarrassing the other deniers here. They wish you'd shut up about this, but they can't tell you that, being it would violate the "don't criticize a fellow denier" rule. Hence, it falls to me to break that news to you.

 

[boedicca]

This is nonsense. The real government malfeasance is the revocation of the plan to build additional dams and canals. Jerry Brown caused this inaction back in the 1970s. Since the plans were abandoned and the state's population has doubled, with virtually no increase in water storage and delivery.

Combine this inane government policy with the radical green agenda. Water that was in storage has been wasted to try to create salmon runs where none have existed in over a century and on other enviro-nazi nonsense.

Hopenchange!

 

[waltky]

No more drought in California...

Record-breaking Snowfall Ends Drought in Northern California
February 02, 2017 - Record-breaking snowfall has put a huge dent in California's severe drought, scientists said Thursday.

Back-to-back-to-back blizzards in January left snowpack 173 percent above average in the Sierra Nevada, providing three-fourths of the state's yearly precipitation in just a few weeks. "It gives everything a brighter outlook," Department of Water Resources official Frank Gehrke said.

Fog and mist shroud the Sierra Nevada near Echo Summit, Calif., Feb. 2, 2017. Three January blizzards left snowpack 173 percent above average in the mountains.​

While the officials said Northern California was now out of drought conditions, Governor Jerry Brown is waiting until the end of the traditional rainy season in April to decide whether he will declare an end to the statewide drought emergency.

California has been in a drought emergency since 2014. Officials said 95 percent of the state had been affected by the severely dry conditions.

Record-breaking Snowfall Ends Drought in Northern California

See also:

Officials: More Than 40 Percent of California Out of Drought
January 12, 2017 — More than 40 percent of California is out of drought, federal drought-watchers said Thursday at the tail end of powerful storms that sent thousands of people fleeing from flooding rivers in the north, unleashed burbling waterfalls in southern deserts, and doubled the vital snowpack in the Sierra Nevada in little more than a week.

Declaring California as a whole to be past its official three-year drought emergency will be up to Gov. Jerry Brown, who will probably wait until the end of the winter rain and snow season to make that decision. But for people in northern cities such as Sacramento, where state workers opened flood gates to ease pressure on levees for the first time in a dozen years, releasing a two-mile-wide torrent of excess water from the surging Sacramento River, the call on declaring the dry spell over in Northern California looked much clearer.

Heaviest rain in 20 years

“It's hard to say we have a drought here right now,” said Jay Lund, director of the Center for Watershed Sciences at the University of California at Davis. Lund spoke as he returned from taking students to see the wrenched-open, century-old flood gates in Sacramento, which got its heaviest rain in 20 years this week. The weekly drought report by federal and academic water experts showed 42 percent of the state had emerged from drought. This time last year, only 3 percent of California was out of drought.

A rainbow appears over a flooded landscape in Hollister, California, Jan. 11, 2017. More than 40 percent of California has emerged from a punishing drought that covered the whole state a year ago, federal drought-watchers said.​

Southern California remains in drought

Southern California, which is also receiving welcome rain from the storms, remains in drought but experienced a dramatic reduction in severity. Just 2 percent of the entire state, a swath between Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, remains in the sharpest category of drought that includes drying wells, reservoirs and streams and widespread crop losses. Forty-three percent of the state was in that direst category this time a year ago. The Cachuma reservoir near still-arid Santa Barbara was at just 8 percent of capacity, even as authorities at Northern California's Shasta Dam opened spillways for the first time in six years to make room for more water to come.

Rains bring rockslides, mudslides

Like many people in Northern California, winery tasting-room supervisor Nate Hayes went out to marvel when this week's heavy rains started and enjoyed taking his canoe down the flooded streets of his town of Rohnert Park. By Thursday, Hayes and others were tired of the rockslides and mudslides complicating commutes and the round-the-clock downpours keeping everyone inside. “We're all really excited for the rain,” Hayes said. “But at the same time we kind of want it to be over.”

'Atmospheric river'

 

[Old Rocks]

Much, much better. Four more years like this, and most of the aquifers will be recharged.

 

[Dr Grump]

Love it. This is the 8th reply to a thread that has 320+ views. Three of those posts are by the person who wrote the OP. Can you say "Thread Fail"...just like the loons who don't believe in AGW...

 

[flacaltenn]

A growing number of people in California are getting behind this. The fact that it is being presented on a major network and showing up on DRUDGE today means it has gotten the attention of the media = significant.


Growing Number Believe California's Drought Is A Government Conspiracy

Anybody with half a brain and who looks up into the sky in 2015 AND who is over 40 years of age knows that these vapor trails did not present in the same way when we were kids. Trails back then disappeared shortly after the jet passed. But not now......these gigantic floating blobs of material stay in the sky for 45 minutes to an hour and get wider and wider. They don't dissipate.........they remain there hovering. And since when did the sky ever look like an ETCH-A-SKETCH board back in the day?

Last summer here on Long Island, we had such an ETCH-A-SKETCH day and the next day, we got 9 inches of rain in 3 hours.........a record for Long Island. duh.

Of course........not a single AGW alarmist will lend this stuff any credence for even an instant because it blows the shit out of their phony narrative, not to mention how naïve these people are in their blind trust of the government.

Im heartened that this is being recognized by the public in general

Oh it's a conspiracy alright. It's a conspiracy to let brainless wonks inhibit the solutions to "cali's drought problem".

Obviously they are opening flood gates and letting ENORMOUS amounts of water loose to cause havoc downstream and WASTE all this rain. Why ? Because the Romper Room is in charge of California planning. Too busy playing with their brand new hi speed choo choo to nowheresville to even CONSIDER setting aside one more valley for a reservoir when all of their VERY OLD ones are full.

Whens the last time a NEW LARGE reservoir was implemented in Cali? How many millions of new people ago was that? Don't even pass them a tissue next time they cry..

 

[flacaltenn]

Answers to the "conspiracy" are all in here
California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

ZERO new large reservoirs in 35 years. Do the math. Cali doesn't have a drought problem. They have the Romper Room in charge...

 

[martybegan]

Answers to the "conspiracy" are all in here
California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

ZERO new large reservoirs in 35 years. Do the math. Cali doesn't have a drought problem. They have the Romper Room in charge...

This is the biggest issue. All this water that could have been impounded, flowing out to the ocean.

 

[mamooth]

Ah, the zero-common sense denier crowd chimes in again.

They won't tell us where these magical reservoirs should be built. They just _feel_ it's possible.

 

[Old Rocks]

St. Francis Dam
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

St. Francis Dam

View of the dam looking north, with water in its reservoir (February 1927)
Location Los Angeles County, California, United States
Coordinates

34°32′49″N 118°30′45″WCoordinates:

34°32′49″N 118°30′45″W
Construction began 1924
Opening date 1926
Demolition date 1929
Dam and spillways
Impounds Los Angeles Aqueduct
San Francisquito Creek
Height 185 feet (56 m)
Height (foundation) 205 feet (62 m)
Length main dam 700 feet (210 m)
wing dike 588 feet (179 m)
Elevation at crest parapet 1838 feet (560.2m)
spillway 1835 feet (559.3m)
Width (crest) 16 feet (4.9 m)
Width (base) 170 feet (52 m)
Parapet width 16 ft (4.9 m)
Hydraulic head 182 ft (55 m)
Dam volume main dam 130,446 cu yd (99,733 m3)
wing dike 3,826 cu yd (2,925 m3)
Spillway type uncontrolled overflow
Reservoir
Total capacity 38,168 acre·ft (47.080×106 m3)
Catchment area 37.5 sq mi (97 km2)
Max. length 3 mi (4.8 km)
Max. water depth 182 ft (55 m)
California Historical Landmark
Official name St. Francis Dam Disaster Site[1]
Reference no. 919
The St. Francis Dam was a curved concrete gravity dam, built to create a large regulating and storage reservoir for the city of Los Angeles, California. The reservoir was an integral part of the city's Los Angeles Aqueduct water supply infrastructure. It was located in San Francisquito Canyon of the Sierra Pelona Mountains, about 40 miles (64 km) northwest of Downtown Los Angeles, and approximately 10 miles (16 km) north of the present day city of Santa Clarita.

The dam was designed and built between 1924 and 1926 by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, then named the Bureau of Water Works and Supply. The department was under the direction of its General Manager and Chief Engineer, William Mulholland.

At 11:57PM on March 12, 1928, the dam catastrophically failed, and the resulting flood took the lives of as many as 425 people.[2]The collapse of the St. Francis Dam is considered to be one of the worst American civil engineering disasters of the 20th century and remains the second-greatest loss of life in California's history, after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire. The disaster marked the end of Mulholland's career.[3]

You cannot just put a dam anywhere. This is an example of that kind of mentality.

 

[Old Rocks]

California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

California’s golden dam-building era ended for four reasons, experts say.

First, nearly all of the best sites are already taken. California has more than 1,400 dams. Most of its major rivers, like the Sacramento and San Joaquin, already have dams on them.

Second, environmental laws have made it more difficult to build large projects that tame or conquer nature. When President Nixon signed the Endangered Species Act in 1973, the idea was to save bald eagles and other iconic animals from extinction. But the law also gave opponents of dams a major tool, since dams on rivers kill salmon and other endangered fish. Other laws like the Clean Water Act and the California Environmental Quality Act, signed by Gov. Ronald Reagan in 1968, also made it tougher to pour concrete.

“The 1950s through the 1970s was when a lot of the West was taking off in growth, postwar,” said David Freyberg, an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford University. “It was viewed as progress, the development of the West. But by the early 1970s, there was a blossoming of the environmental movement and it evolved into a discussion about values.”

Third, easy money to build large projects dried up. Not only did California pass Proposition 13 in 1978, requiring a two-thirds majority to raise most taxes, but in 1986, President Reagan changed federal law to require states to pay a greater share of the huge costs of building dams to curb federal spending. Days of congressional leaders approving billion-dollar dams in their districts dried up.


The costs of building a dam are increasing every year. First, to have a reservoir you must have low land surround by higher land. In California, most of the low land is occupied. Secondly, some of the sites are places that are unique, and cannot be built on, such as Yosemite. And much of the land has geology unsuitable for building a dam. Such as the St. Francis Dam.

 

[Old Rocks]

Answers to the "conspiracy" are all in here
California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

ZERO new large reservoirs in 35 years. Do the math. Cali doesn't have a drought problem. They have the Romper Room in charge...

I take it you are related to Mulholland.

 

[flacaltenn]

Answers to the "conspiracy" are all in here
California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

ZERO new large reservoirs in 35 years. Do the math. Cali doesn't have a drought problem. They have the Romper Room in charge...

I take it you are related to Mulholland.

That would cool.. Know how babies were conceived on Mulholland drive? Billions of them. Billions of CO2 belching, consumption crazy, earth wasting babies.

What if I was? Was he a damn builder or something? Cali just needs about 300 adults in charge in Sacramento, then things will improve.

 

[mamooth]

What if I was? Was he a damn builder or something? Cali just needs about 300 adults in charge in Sacramento, then things will improve.

You mean those horrible budget surpluses would end, and the amazing economic growth would stop?

I guess that would be an improvement in the eyes of libertarians, because then libertarian dogma wouldn't be getting debunked so conclusively.

 

[Old Rocks]

Answers to the "conspiracy" are all in here
California drought: Why doesn’t California build big dams any more? – The Mercury News

ZERO new large reservoirs in 35 years. Do the math. Cali doesn't have a drought problem. They have the Romper Room in charge...

I take it you are related to Mulholland.

That would cool.. Know how babies were conceived on Mulholland drive? Billions of them. Billions of CO2 belching, consumption crazy, earth wasting babies.

What if I was? Was he a damn builder or something? Cali just needs about 300 adults in charge in Sacramento, then things will improve.

Mulholland was the engineer that thought you could just build a dam where ever you please. The geology was wrong, and the dam failed catastrophically, killing at least 425 people.

 

[leftwinger]

They could have been expanding EXISTING dams during the 5 year drought? correct? Instead they have "overflow" spillways............more water to the ocean that could have been stored.

They also could have been routing "overflow" to replenish groundwater. Instead......they paid massive pensions.