Clashes Erupt in Lebanon as Hezbollah Enforces Strike

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BEIRUT, Lebanon — Protesters from the Hezbollah-led opposition clashed with supporters of Lebanon's U.S.-backed government Wednesday as a strike by the Shiite militant group paralyzed large parts of Beirut.

Explosions and gunfire rang out across Lebanon's capital. The cause of the explosions was not immediately known and there was no word on casualties.

The violence deepened tensions in a country already mired in a 17-month-old political crisis pitting the Iranian- and Syrian-backed Hezbollah against the government of Prime Minister Fuad Saniora. The troubles have left the country without a president since November.

Labor unions had called for the strike after rejecting a last-minute pay raise offer by the government. Instead, it turned into a showdown between Hezbollah and the government.

more ... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354399,00.html

It just blows my mind Hezbollah and Hamas are given any kind of legitimacy. They're criminals. They should be forced to surrender or fight. Screw this leading a strike crap as if they're anything more than dirtbag, Iran-backed terrorists.
 
It just blows my mind Hezbollah and Hamas are given any kind of legitimacy. They're criminals. They should be forced to surrender or fight. Screw this leading a strike crap as if they're anything more than dirtbag, Iran-backed terrorists.

You'll get no disagreement from me. But I'm sure Shogie will call me more names.... you know, like Ms. Holocaust. :rolleyes:
 
It just blows my mind Hezbollah and Hamas are given any kind of legitimacy. They're criminals. They should be forced to surrender or fight. Screw this leading a strike crap as if they're anything more than dirtbag, Iran-backed terrorists.


The moral Jimmy Carter would disagree with you. You know this is just some zionist Jewish conspiracy anyways.....
 
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=26242

Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development programme. The group currently operates at least four hospitals, 12 clinics, 12 schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance programme. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country’s private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members.

Most of these institutions are located in the country’s more marginalised areas, such as Beirut’s southern suburbs, in South Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley. “We have special sections all over the country that provide financial and food assistance to the poor,” said Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Nabulsi. “We also run an emergency fund for instant care in case of immediate hospitalisation.”

Condemning them as simply criminals and terrorists is an oversimplification.
 
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=26242

Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development programme. The group currently operates at least four hospitals, 12 clinics, 12 schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance programme. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country’s private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members.

Most of these institutions are located in the country’s more marginalised areas, such as Beirut’s southern suburbs, in South Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley. “We have special sections all over the country that provide financial and food assistance to the poor,” said Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Nabulsi. “We also run an emergency fund for instant care in case of immediate hospitalisation.”

Condemning them as simply criminals and terrorists is an oversimplification.

No, making them out to be anything more than the criminals they are is just repeating the propaganda they know you and those like you will do. They're xenophobic murders with the stated agenda of exterminating a race.

No matter how much lipstick you try to put on that pig, it's STILL a pig.
 
*shrug* think whatever you want, but considering they have one of the best social movements in the region and a lot of the people depend on them for help for basic necessities, its no surprise why they have legitimacy.

Propaganda? So are you implying somehow that they don't help the citizens of Lebanon with basic necessities? Or is propaganda just a term you use for information that doesn't support your preconceived notions?
 
http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=26242

Hezbollah not only has armed and political wings – it also boasts an extensive social development programme. The group currently operates at least four hospitals, 12 clinics, 12 schools and two agricultural centres that provide farmers with technical assistance and training. It also has an environmental department and an extensive social assistance programme. Medical care is also cheaper than in most of the country’s private hospitals and free for Hezbollah members.

Most of these institutions are located in the country’s more marginalised areas, such as Beirut’s southern suburbs, in South Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley. “We have special sections all over the country that provide financial and food assistance to the poor,” said Hezbollah spokesman Hussein Nabulsi. “We also run an emergency fund for instant care in case of immediate hospitalisation.”

Condemning them as simply criminals and terrorists is an oversimplification.



Hitler did alot of nice things too. He made sure all his people had cars. he made them very affordable. He also took Germany out of the depression. Everyone had jobs and their was food on every families table. He also created the Autoban. He aslo banned smoking and anything that glamorized it. Germany's health was very important to him.
 
*shrug* think whatever you want, but considering they have one of the best social movements in the region and a lot of the people depend on them for help for basic necessities, its no surprise why they have legitimacy.

Propaganda? So are you implying somehow that they don't help the citizens of Lebanon with basic necessities? Or is propaganda just a term you use for information that doesn't support your preconceived notions?

Propaganda would be the spin you're putting on them for purchasing local support in an effort to take over a nation.

Here's your preconceived notion:

Hezbollah[1] (Arabic: حزب الله‎ ḥizba-llāh,[2] literally "party of God") is a Shi'a Islamic political and paramilitary organisation based in Lebanon. The group's official name in Arabic is Hizb Allah Al-moqawama Al-Islamiyah fi Lubnan.[3]

Hezbollah first emerged during the Lebanese Civil War in the early 1980s as a militia of Shia followers of the Ayatollah Khomeini, trained, organized and funded by a contingent of Iranian Revolutionary Guards.[4] In its 1985 manifesto Hezbollah listed its three main goals as the eradication of Western colonialism in Lebanon, the bringing to justice of those who committed atrocities during the war (specifically the Phalangists), and the establishment of an Islamic government in Lebanon.[5][6][7] Since then Hezbollah has temporarily abandoned the goal of transforming Lebanon into an Islamic state at this time.[4] Hezbollah leaders have also made numerous statements calling for the destruction of Israel, which they describe as an unlawful "entity".[5][6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

What is Hezbollah?
Hezbollah is a Lebanese umbrella organization of radical Islamic Shiite groups and organizations. It opposes the West, seeks to create a Muslim fundamentalist state modeled on Iran, and is a bitter foe of Israel. Hezbollah, whose name means “party of God,” is a terrorist group believed responsible for nearly 200 attacks since 1982 that have killed more than 800 people, according to the Terrorism Knowledge Base. Experts say Hezbollah is also a significant force in Lebanon’s politics and a major provider of social services, operating schools, hospitals, and agricultural services, for thousands of Lebanese Shiites. It also operates the al-Manar satellite television channel and broadcast station.

What are Hezbollah's origins?
Hezbollah was founded in 1982 in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and subsumed members of the 1980s coalition of groups known as Islamic Jihad. It has close links to Iran and Syria.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9155/

There are plenty more. The fact that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization is not in dispute. Thus, dirtbag criminals.
 
Propaganda would be the spin you're putting on them for purchasing local support in an effort to take over a nation.

Spin? You mean facts? Just because you don't like the facts presented doesn't make it spin.

There are plenty more. The fact that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization is not in dispute. Thus, dirtbag criminals.

And treating them like that makes a lot of poor Lebanese who depend on them for support very very unhappy.

Terrorism is a new kind of warfare. You can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist.

Also...considering Israel just invaded Lebanon, massacred 1,000 civilians, displaced 1,000,000 more and cluster bombed parts of the countryside, I don't think that Hezbollahs hatred for Israel is going to lose them any supporters or legitimacy in that region.
 
PUHLEEEZ...They want the zionists Jews gone but just arent as smart as Hitler to get the job done.

They want the Jews gone from Israeli land so they can have the land, they aren't going to invade Europe to go kill Jews. Its an economic motive, not a eugenics/genocide motive.

Hell, they aren't even going to invade Israel.

So tell me again what has Hezbollah done to help out the Jews and keep their race alive?

What have you done to help out the Jews and keep their race alive? Omgz, you must be Hitler if you haven't done anything!
 
Spin? You mean facts? Just because you don't like the facts presented doesn't make it spin.



And treating them like that makes a lot of poor Lebanese who depend on them for support very very unhappy.

Terrorism is a new kind of warfare. You can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist.

Also...considering Israel just invaded Lebanon, massacred 1,000 civilians, displaced 1,000,000 more and cluster bombed parts of the countryside, I don't think that Hezbollahs hatred for Israel is going to lose them any supporters or legitimacy in that region.

When the facts don't support the actions without spin, it's spin.

I completely agree you can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist. Just like you can't get rid of them by pretending they're something more than what they are.

You hunt them down and force them to surrender or fight, period. THAT will get rid of them. But there's always someone like you to present a twisted argument as to why not.

The only good terrorist is a dead one. Problem solved.
 
When the facts don't support the actions without spin, it's spin.

Really? You don't think Hezbollah providing social services gives them legitimacy in the eyes of the Lebanese?

I completely agree you can't get rid of organizations like Hezbollah by pretending they don't exist. Just like you can't get rid of them by pretending they're something more than what they are.

Pretending they are more than what they are?

Do they, or do they not, provide essential social services to many Lebanese civilians?

You hunt them down and force them to surrender or fight, period. THAT will get rid of them. But there's always someone like you to present a twisted argument as to why not.

Yeah Israel tried that. Failed miserably. Next plan?

The only good terrorist is a dead one. Problem solved.

Ah. Well care to define terrorism so I can know who you want dead and who not?
 
Really? You don't think Hezbollah providing social services gives them legitimacy in the eyes of the Lebanese?



Pretending they are more than what they are?

Do they, or do they not, provide essential social services to many Lebanese civilians?



Yeah Israel tried that. Failed miserably. Next plan?



Ah. Well care to define terrorism so I can know who you want dead and who not?

Hitler provided needed services as well, He did a lot more then this group, a lot more "good" for a huge Nation. He brought the Germans out of a Depression, he gave them cars and jobs, he gave them pride and a sense of accomplishment. He provided EVERY aspect of civilization in Germany.

As for who to kill? Why armed terrorists of course, you know , people that murder innocent civilians, fire missiles and rockets and mortars into towns indiscriminately , fire them from UN monitor positions and from inside towns and villages. People that train , equip and pay suicide bombers and their families.
 
Why? As I recall they murder women and children indiscriminately. And they, like Hitler want to exterminate Jews and anyone that does not support or believe in them.

Hezbollah has been in existence for 50 years. How many people have they killed? How many have they helped?

Hitler was in power for...what 12 years or some such amount? How many people did he kill?

See the vast, overwhelming, staggering difference?

By the way....exactly what steps has Hezbollah taken to exterminate the Jews again?
 
Hezbollah has been in existence for 50 years. How many people have they killed? How many have they helped?

Hitler was in power for...what 12 years or some such amount? How many people did he kill?

See the vast, overwhelming, staggering difference?

By the way....exactly what steps has Hezbollah taken to exterminate the Jews again?

You are on ignorant person.
 
You are on ignorant person.

This from the shitbag who thinks that spending foreign money to save Africans lives is a "waste". Why so much compassion for the Israelis, but none for the Africans? They the wrong skin color?
 
This from the shitbag who thinks that spending foreign money to save Africans lives is a "waste". Why so much compassion for the Israelis, but none for the Africans? They the wrong skin color?

Ahh yes, change the subject, deflect and attempt to make the discussion, which on its merit shows you to be as stupid as a box of rocks, about something else.

Remind us all again how this group is NOT a terrorist organization and because it does " good deeds" is somehow a stellar member of the human race.
 

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