'Christian role in Lebanon has ended,’ says Islamic Hezbollah-affectionate

[surada]

^^^^^ lie The perversity of PAN ARAB NATIONALISM
(which is no more or less than ISLAMO NAZISM) was rampant
in Haifa from the 19th century. In 1967 the Baathist dog---
Gamal Abdel Nasser actually CLAIMED Haifa for his islamic
caliphate only 10 years after the Jewish community of Egypt
was forcibly expelled and all properties confiscated. The
jewish community in Egypt, of course, precedes the arab muslim
invasion by, the imposition of islam and arabic, by more than
1000 years

The Jews bombed Haifa in 1947. After 6 Arabs were killed by grenades and 42 were injured. Irgun did it . Previously relations had been good. There had been no violence.

 

[irosie91]

There was Hagannah, Irgun, the Stern gang etc. They killed over 600 British peacekeepers and Count Folke Bernadotte who had saved 30 thousand Jews.

for a neutral discussion of "british peacekeepers" speak to the people
of South east Asia. The subject here is a WAR of independence from
British Hegemony in "british mandate palestine" A review of the various
battles against British Hegemony thruout the British empire will reveal
HOW BLOODLESS they were. Additionally---look into the bloodless
war of Algerian independence from France

 

[surada]

for a neutral discussion of "british peacekeepers" speak to the people
of South east Asia. The subject here is a WAR of independence from
British Hegemony in "british mandate palestine" A review of the various
battles against British Hegemony thruout the British empire will reveal
HOW BLOODLESS they were. Additionally---look into the bloodless
war of Algerian independence from France

Palestine didn't belong to the European Zionists. They were killing British peacekeepers who were trying to preserve the rights of the Palestinian people who lived there.

 

[surada]

The place (for the ME) was a paradise before Pali "refugees" arrived.....Small wonder nobody wants them.

They were forced out by israel.

 

[surada]

irosie91

Haifa Oil Refinery massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Jewish Agency condemned the Irgun for the "act of madness" that preceded the killing of Jewish workers at the Haifa oil refinery, but at the same time authorized retaliation.

The Haganah mounted a retaliatory raid which became known as the Balad al-Shaykh massacre on the villages of Balad al-Shaykh and nearby Hawassa, where some of the Arab refinery workers lived. They fired into and blew up houses. Some women and children were injured when, according to Haganah accounts, Arabs returned fire from the houses. Haganah estimates of the number of Arabs killed varied from 21 to 70, including one woman. In addition, two Haganah soldiers were killed during the fight.[7] Zachary Lockman wrote that, "... the Jewish attackers killed some sixty men, women, and children and destroyed several

 

[irosie91]

Palestine didn't belong to the European Zionists. They were killing British peacekeepers who were trying to preserve the rights of the Palestinian people who lived there.

that ^^^ is a good one----the British were desperate to "preserve the
rights of the Wogs"------Talk to some Wogs from the former
GLORIOUS UNITED KINGDOM. oh---I forgot you have been all over the
world and are familiar with all family legacies from them thar days.
"european zionists" is an islamo nazi meme. Is Itamar ben Gvir ALSO
a EUROPEAN ZIONIST? ---islamo nazis depend on their own semantics.
I have known people from MYSORE (Kamala's hometown in India) who
laugh (or spit) in your face.

 

[irosie91]

They were forced out by israel.

you got footage of those death marches? Haifa is chock
full of arab muslims-----something like 200 jews (if that many)
left in Lebanon. The history of jews in Lebanon preceded islam
by thousands of years. ISLAMIC pogroms against jews in
Lebanon go back to prior to the 19th century---replete with the
standard islamo nazi blood libels---a prominent one in 1847
(da european zionists again----ask that Limey WOP Moses Montefiore

 

[Blaster]

Christians in Lebanon have always been persecuted by Muslims.

 

[surada]

that ^^^ is a good one----the British were desperate to "preserve the
rights of the Wogs"------Talk to some Wogs from the former
GLORIOUS UNITED KINGDOM. oh---I forgot you have been all over the
world and are familiar with all family legacies from them thar days.
"european zionists" is an islamo nazi meme. Is Itamar ben Gvir ALSO
a EUROPEAN ZIONIST? ---islamo nazis depend on their own semantics.
I have known people from MYSORE (Kamala's hometown in India) who
laugh (or spit) in your face.

Nobody has ever spit on me. We are talking about Palestine not the British empire.

 

[surada]

Christians in Lebanon have always been persecuted by Muslims.

How many times have you been to Beirut? I used to go every year to shop and visit friends who lived there. AUB and ACS sure were good schools.

 

[irosie91]

irosie91

Haifa Oil Refinery massacre - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Jewish Agency condemned the Irgun for the "act of madness" that preceded the killing of Jewish workers at the Haifa oil refinery, but at the same time authorized retaliation.

The Haganah mounted a retaliatory raid which became known as the Balad al-Shaykh massacre on the villages of Balad al-Shaykh and nearby Hawassa, where some of the Arab refinery workers lived. They fired into and blew up houses. Some women and children were injured when, according to Haganah accounts, Arabs returned fire from the houses. Haganah estimates of the number of Arabs killed varied from 21 to 70, including one woman. In addition, two Haganah soldiers were killed during the fight.[7] Zachary Lockman wrote that, "... the Jewish attackers killed some sixty men, women, and children and destroyed several

right---there was fighting between jews and arabs in Haifa and there still
is. Jews have lived in Judean Haifa since "biblical times" and as a result of
invasions by the minions of the rapist of Mecca---muslims call it MUSLIM
LAND -----ask Gamel Abdel Nasser or any muslim kid in the USA

 

[irosie91]

Nobody has ever spit on me. We are talking about Palestine not the British empire.

you mentioned people you called "british peacekeepers"----somehow
you avoided describing them as subjects and military of the BRITISH
EMPIRE ----it's the islamo-episco-nazi semantics game again. Palestina
is a greek designation dating back to Herodotus---a greek historian
who created the designation to describe a large body of land including
what is today parts of Syria, Jordan and Israel and whatever----something
like the word CUSH refers to parts of southern Egypt and Sudan and ?
nubia? Cushites are people dark in color---it is a designation found in the
OT. GAUL is a roman thing based on roman exploits in Europe. Getting
back to PALESTINA ----the romans used the designation as an alternative
to JUDEA ----ie they used a GREEK DESIGNATION (the romans worshipped
the greeks and the greek language). Thus PALESTINA is a synonym for
JUDEA which includes the biblical kingdoms of Judah and Israel

 

[Blaster]

How many times have you been to Beirut? I used to go every year to shop and visit friends who lived there. AUB and ACS sure were good schools.

My great grandparents fled Lebanon for the United States because of religious persecution so don't try and tell me about how great it is.

 

[irosie91]

The Jews bombed Haifa in 1947. After 6 Arabs were killed by grenades and 42 were injured. Irgun did it . Previously relations had been good. There had been no violence.

relations varied over time since biblical times and the unfortunate advent
of the arab invasions and the crusades. Try to maintain at least a modicum
of truth. There were eras of fairly peaceful relations just as there was
peace most of the time on the SOUTHERN PLANTATIONS when cotton
was king. I grew up in a very peaceful town----founded by episcoplians
prior to the USA revolutionary war. In the 1970s the people controlling
that town finally let "afro-americans" in. ----in the 1950s---jews---generally
the families of veterans

 

[irosie91]

My great grandparents fled Lebanon for the United States because of religious persecution so don't try and tell me about how great it is.

sheeeesh blaster---you flunk islamo/nazi. Muslims --at least in the past,
considered MARONITES to be FRENCHIFIED ENEMIES even evil FRANKS---
although probably amongst the most original Lebanese over there

 

[surada]

you mentioned people you called "british peacekeepers"----somehow
you avoided describing them as subjects and military of the BRITISH
EMPIRE ----it's the islamo-episco-nazi semantics game again. Palestina
is a greek designation dating back to Herodotus---a greek historian
who created the designation to describe a large body of land including
what is today parts of Syria, Jordan and Israel and whatever----something
like the word CUSH refers to parts of southern Egypt and Sudan and ?
nubia? Cushites are people dark in color---it is a designation found in the
OT. GAUL is a roman thing based on roman exploits in Europe. Getting
back to PALESTINA ----the romans used the designation as an alternative
to JUDEA ----ie they used a GREEK DESIGNATION (the romans worshipped
the greeks and the greek language). Thus PALESTINA is a synonym for
JUDEA which includes the biblical kingdoms of Judah and Israel

It was called Syria Palestine 500 year before the Romans arrived .

 

[irosie91]

It was called Syria Palestine 500 year before the Romans arrived .

not exactly but close. It was about 500 BC that the Greek, HERODOTUS named the GENERAL AREA Palestina. People living in various parts of the world had DIFFERENT NAMES for this and that tract of land ---but you already knew that. GAUL was named by the roman imperialists----and included what is today France, Belgium, Luxembourg, and parts of Switzerland, the Netherlands, Germany, and Northern Italy. Nationalist
historical revisionists CHOOSE the monikers that conform to their ideologies. Some people like to refer to everyone in the Levant as "ARABS" --typically Baathists. Baathism is Arab Nazism which, interestingly, morphed into ISLAMISM ---just as Roman imperialist nationalism morphed into Christianity. Islamism extended way beyond the Levant by conquest just as Christianity extended way beyond the Roman empire by invasion, conquest and imposition.

 

[surada]

The truth is, it began with 1976 massacre of Christians in Damour by "palestinians"

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'Christian role in Lebanon has ended,’ says Hezbollah-affectionate commentator.

Ohad Merlin, Jerusalem Post, August 19, 2024.

Pro-Hezbollah Lebanese commentator stirred up a virtual storm in Lebanon following a sharp attack against his Christian compatriots in Lebanon, where he claimed that the Christians’ role in Lebanon is over and alleged that American battleships are coming to the region to take them away.

In his controversial rant given during an interview with Lebanon On News, Reda Saad addressed his “Christian brethren in Lebanon,” as he named them, warning them to pay attention carefully to his words.

“I fear that the Christians in Lebanon will face a similar destiny to that of the Afghans when they clung to the wheels of the American planes and are thrown from the sky,” he said provocatively. “I fear that you won’t have an airport or a port [to flee]. And perhaps the foreign warships are coming to take you, to the last of you.”

Saad lashed out against the Christian population in his country. “Unfortunately, did you see where you ended up? You can’t even appoint a president!” he said, adding that the Christian Lebanon “became synonymous with the American and Israeli ones” and accusing them of collaborating with the French mandate and favoring French over Arabic.

“So let everyone know that the role of Christians in Lebanon has ended!” he declared. “You have become a minority in this country, and yet you still hold high positions… Nobody would accept this issue. The next generations will not accept it. They will not accept that the president must be Christian; he must be a Sunni Muslim or Shi’i. We represent the majority in this country, and we want our share in this sectarian regime,” Saad stressed, referring to the ‘sectarian method’ secured in Lebanon following the 1989 Ta’if agreement, which ended the civil war, and in which Christian Lebanese were allocated a majority of seats in parliament in addition to the office of president….

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-815412

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Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into "massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages of looting and killings. Out of a population of 3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently maimed.
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Viewpoint
Inside Lebanon: A misnster's View
Sumter Daily Item - Jan 29, 1983

... The PLO came to Lebanon 12 years ago, after it was evicted from Jordan by King Hussein, that "Black September" in 1970, Hussein's troops killed 10,000 PLO fighters in the expulsion from Jordan of these terrorists which were an increasing threat to the stability of his government. Eight years ago, in 1974, war broke out in Lebanon, as the PLO attempted to wrest this ancient country from its own people. From 1974 to 1982, over 100,000 people were killed in Lebanon by the PLO, half a million were injured, and one million were left homeless, without any significant world objection. The PLO siege of Lebanon, which has been incorrectly portrayed as a civil war, was in fact a reign of terror, during which anyone who refused to cooperate with the PLO was forcibly evicted from his home, watched his wife and daughters raped and mutilated, was tortured and killed, or perhaps just quietly disappeared. The Lebanese people — both Moslem and Christian — were prisoners within their own country.
In additions to the systematic terrorization of Lebanon, the PLO over the past eight years has repeatedly shelled the northern area of Israel, crossed the Israeli border in attacks on civilian people, and from Beirut directed attacks on Israeli diplomats and offices throughout the world, the most recent being the attempted assassination of Israel's ambassador to England, Shlome Argov. The people of Lebanon were fed up with the situation, and some of the several Lebanese factions, mainly Christian, appealed to Israel for assistance, Israel, equally fed up with the constant endangerment of the population of the Galilee, concurred, and in early July of this year the Israeli Army entered South Lebanon.

... We saw the PLO headquarters in Sidon, built near the town square, but underground, beneath a large and popular amusement park (complete with ferris wheel and roller coaster), "hiding beneath the skirts of women." We saw the Moslem hospital which the PLO used as an armament depot, marking their crates of live ammunition with the symbol of the Palestine Red Crescent (the local version of the Red Cross, and whose chairman is the brother of Yassar Arafat; most of the tragically inflated statistics on civilian casualties in Lebanon were provided by the Palestine Red Crescent issued without confirmation by the International Red Cross, which has since discovered how it was manipulated and has issued a formal retraction of the civilian casualty statistics). We talked with young men and old men in the streets of Sidon, candidly and happily. They told us how glad they are to have the Israeli army come in, how their freedom has been restored after eight years. They called the Israeli army "the army of liberation." Nowhere could we find a dissenting opinion.

We were on a hill at the end of the Beirut airport, looking over West Beirut, where the Israeli army estimates that 9,000 PLO terrorists are holding several more thousand Lebanese civilians as hostages. The Israeli army a few days ago asked those civilians who wished to leave West Beirut to come to the beach to be picked up; on their way to the beach, the PLO killed all those citizens, denouncing them as traitors.

... We drove back south, to the Maronite (Greek Catholic) village of Damour. Once a village of 40.000 Christians, they massacred over 10,000 of the citizens, and drove the rest out of the village. The village was taken over as a PLO barracks.

The Israelis have driven so many Palestinian refugees into Lebanon since 1948 they have completely changed the demographics of Lebanon.

It's horrible. Beirut, Lebanon was the Paris of the Mediterranean. Of course the Zionists wanted to destroy that.

 

[surada]

not exactly but close. It was about 500 BC that the Greek, HERODOTUS named the GENERAL AREA Palestina. People living in various parts of the world had DIFFERENT NAMES for this and that tract of land ---but you already knew that. GAUL was named by the roman imperialists----and included what is today France, Belgium, Luxembourg, and parts of Switzerland, the Netherlands, Germany, and Northern Italy. Nationalist
historical revisionists CHOOSE the monikers that conform to their ideologies. Some people like to refer to everyone in the Levant as "ARABS" --typically Baathists. Baathism is Arab Nazism which, interestingly, morphed into ISLAMISM ---just as Roman imperialist nationalism morphed into Christianity. Islamism extended way beyond the Levant by conquest just as Christianity extended way beyond the Roman empire by invasion, conquest and imposition.

It was a province of Syria.

 

[rylah]

Many Maronites speak up about liberating Lebanon from Islamic imperialism.
Some talk of division between Israel and Syria.

But no actual move yet on Christian behalf,

do you think they have what it takes?