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[August West]

No....I think keeping the most violent and dangerous gun offenders llocked up will reduce gun and violent crime....

So you recommend releasing the most dangerous and violent criminals over an over again?

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

 

[Flash]

We have 5% of the world`s population but 25% of the world`s incarcerated. Do you think locking more people up is the answer?

We a shitload of Negroes that commit crimes. Are you suggesting that we don't lock them up and let them continue to commit the crimes?

 

[Flash]

Yes I voted for the (D)
I know and understand, regardless of any policies, that trump is a crooked con man.
He has been his entire life and there are 100’s if not 1,000’s of witnesses
You just don’t want to admit trump is a con man

Biden has lied too, but nowhere (IMO) as trump

I just can’t vote for a vile cheat like trump.
So I voted for Biden.

Trump was the first President that ever did what he promised to do and you stupid Moon Bats can't stand it because his agenda was to make America great again. You moron want to make this country a Socialist shithole and can't stand trump because he had another agenda.

Biden is a corrupt lying piece of dumbass shit that never did anything right in his life.

Only an idiot would have voted for him. Just look at how he has fucked up this country. Morons like you are to blame because you have your head up your ass.

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

No......we want actual criminals locked up, and for some fucking stupid reason, your side keeps refusing to charge actual gun offenders, on video, shooting at each other in public streets, or your side drops the gun charges on felons caught with guns, and your side releases felons caught with guns on no cash bail, and you are reducing sentencing guidelines for felons caught with illegal guns...

Why the fuck are you guys doing that?

Why should a normal gun owner be punished to the full extend of laws they didn't actually break...while you and the other democrats are refusing to press charges against these guys?

Officers responded to a house on the corner of West Potomac and North Mason. Two cars eventually pulled up and three people opened fire.

No charges filed against suspects in deadly West Side SWAT standoff
The people inside returned fire – killing one of the gunmen and injuring several other people.


“We have videotape. We have officers on the scene observing it. At a bare minimum, the individuals who initiated the firefight must be prosecuted,” Lightfoot said.

Police pursued charges but the state’s attorney’s office declined based on mutual combat. Lightfoot urged Foxx to reconsider.

“We’ve gotta be able to explain to people on that block and across the city why it is when you have this kind of evidence, a videotape showing exactly what happened, why charges weren’t brought?” Lightfoot said.

Aldermen are also questioning Foxx’s decision.


Chicago police Supt. David Brown spoke about the case during Monday’s city council budget hearing.

“We should pursue the charges that we have and let jurors and judges adjudicate justice,” Brown added.

Lightfoot disappointed by Kim Foxx’s refusal to file charges in deadly West Side shootout

Aldermen are also questioning Foxx’s decision.

wgntv.com

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to punish the victims of criminals....while you and yours are doing this......?

Washington state...



So why are Washington Democrats offering up a bill in the state legislature to lower the penalties for drive-by shootings?

Well, there’s woke and then there’s just plain stupid. Washington state Democrats are vying to become the best stupid they can be, bless ’em.

Currently, Washington law holds that a drive-by shooter should get an aggravated enhancement if he is arrested and prosecuted—and that’s a big if. Such an enhancement could land a drive-by murderer a life prison sentence.

But under a bill proposed for the upcoming Washington state legislature by white, woke ex-con state Rep. Tarra Simmons and her co-sponsor David Hackney, the reduction in penalties is a move toward “racial equity.” That’s right, drive-by shooting prosecutorial outcomes are racist. Never mind all the black and brown people who are the disproportionate victims of drive-by shootings.

Washington State Democrats Want Decreased Penalties for Drive-By Shooters Because... Aw, You Guessed

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to prosecute victims, when you and the democrats are doing this?

New York...



The Mayor of New York City held a press conference yesterday that was full of fire and brimstone. The cover of the New York Post really says it all. “Mayor’s plea: We took 2,600 guns… But the shooters are back on the streets.”

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The Mayor is clearly frustrated and it’s reached the point where he feels compelled to point out the obvious.

He said, “after the shooting, after the arrest, after being let go — You know what they do? They go do another shooting.” The NYPD is already aware of this because they keep arresting the same people over and over again.

He pointed out that criminals in New York City “no longer believe you can’t do a shooting.” He continued, saying that criminals don’t take criminal justice seriously anymore.

While the Mayor didn’t mention him by name, he was clearly making a reference to Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The DA came into office promising to put fewer people behind bars and proceeded to make good on that threat.



NYC Mayor: Our prosecutors are "a laughingstock" of the country

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to prosecute the victims...when you and the democrats are doing this...

California..



Two days after the Uvalde shooting in Texas, the California State Senate passed a bill that would allow schools not to report threats or attacks against employees to law enforcement.

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According to the Bill, it would repeal the provision of existing law where it requires that “whenever any employee of a school district or county superintendent of schools is attacked, assaulted, or physically threatened by any pupil, the employee and any person under whose direction or supervision the employee is employed who has knowledge of the incident are required to promptly report the incident to specified law enforcement authorities.”

SB 1273 would then make such reports to law enforcement voluntary.






California Senate Passes Bill to Allow Schools Not to Report Threats to Police

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[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to prosecute the victims....but you and the democrats are releasing repeat gun offenders over and over again?

Philly....



This year, though, we’ve jumped the shark. We’re on pace for over 600 murders—the most ever. An Inquirer story last week laid out some even more disturbing findings. Since Krasner took office,

the number of gun crime arrests has nearly tripled, but the conviction rate for gun crimes has plunged from 63 percent in 2017 to 49 percent in 2019.


In January, I reported that, under Krasner, homicides have jumped a whopping 58 percent; just 21 percent of shootings since 2015 led to criminal charges, and less than one-tenth of those resulted in convictions.

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The DA’s own data dashboard shows that, every year of his tenure, Krasner’s office has dismissed or withdrawn more violent cases and gun cases than the year before.


In fact, the average annual number of such cases that were dismissed or withdrawn has increased by 85 percent during Krasner’s tenure, compared with the four years before he took office. All of this despite the fact that the police are making more gun arrests than at any time since 2015.



Larry Krasner is losing the battle against homicide. Will voters even care?

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to punish the victims...while you and the democrat party do this?

New york, 4/25/22



We recently looked at the results of New York City Mayor Eric Adams bringing back the special gun crimes task force of the NYPD, though these days the various units deployed around the city have the much friendlier name of Neighborhood Safety Teams. The Mayor reported that in just the first few weeks of operation, the NSTs had taken dozens of guns off the streets and made more than two dozen arrests. The vast majority of them had one thing in common. The suspects generally had prior convictions or arrests for similar crimes. So that’s some great news, right? Getting more shooters and illegal guns off the street was the stated objective and if they keep up this good work the city should see some measurable improvements.

There’s just one problem, however. Of those 25 suspects arrested on gun charges, how many of them do you think are still behind bars? If you guessed “one,” give yourself a cookie. All the rest of them have been sprung. (NY Post)



Remember all of those gun charges the NYPD was finally bringing? Never mind

 

[2aguy]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Why do you want to punish the victims, when you and the democrats are doing this?

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
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Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

 

[toobfreak]

I support the 2A 100%, but it was written over 240 years ago. Things have obviously changed since muzzleloaders.

The one thing that never changes and is perhaps a greater threat than ever is government usurping the free will of the people. The 2A is there as a last resort for keeping a check on government, so you cannot equate it with mere fishing licenses. The Founders intended that we maintain sufficient arms to maintain an independence from government, so if anything, we need access to more and bigger guns!

 

[Care4all]

What do you want to discuss? Self defense is a civil and human right, currently under attack by the left.

Where does the constitution say and spell out that you have a right to self defense?

I think we do have the right of self defense, but I don't see it specifically written in the Constitution?

 

[Care4all]

The one thing that never changes and is perhaps a greater threat than ever is government usurping the free will of the people. The 2A is there as a last resort for keeping a check on government, so you cannot equate it with mere fishing licenses. The Founders intended that we maintain sufficient arms to maintain an independence from government, so if anything, we need access to more and bigger guns!



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The government didn't have a standing army to take over any state or groups of people.... A standing army giving the federal government power over us, was made unconstitutional in the constitution.

The state's Militia is who the federal government would need state governors to call up, if the federal government needed an army.

The 2nd amendment is about arming and regulating state Militia, so that as a Nation, we would have a collective self defense.

The people, men between 18 and 45 were in state Drafts, and had to be armed with their own weapon, under state law, to be ready to be called up for the State Militia, and ready for their governor, to send them out to defend our nation, if and when the federal govt needed them in our country's self defense.

Our govts had no money to buy guns, the people individually drafted, had to bring their own.

 

[toobfreak]

A standing army giving the federal government power over us, was made unconstitutional in the constitution.

Tell it to Obumma who wanted to create a national police force under him made up of students in exchange for school loans.

The 2nd amendment is about arming and regulating state Militia

Try again.

 

[iceberg]

What have you killed today?

I would say his own credibility, but did that by his 10th post in here.

 

[2aguy]

The government didn't have a standing army to take over any state or groups of people.... A standing army giving the federal government power over us, was made unconstitutional in the constitution.

The state's Militia is who the federal government would need state governors to call up, if the federal government needed an army.

The 2nd amendment is about arming and regulating state Militia, so that as a Nation, we would have a collective self defense.

The people, men between 17 and 45 were in state Drafts, and had to be armed with their own weapon, under state law, to be ready to be called up for the State Militia, and ready for their governor, to send them out to defend our nation, if and when the federal govt needed them in our country's self defense.

Our govts had no money to buy guns, the people individually drafted, had to bring their own.

The 2nd amendment is about arming and regulating state Militia,

No....nothing in our history, tradition or wording of that Amendment supports what you say.....nothing...not one little thing.....

 

[Care4all]

Tell it to Obumma who wanted to create a national police force under him made up of students in exchange for school loans.


Try again.

You're nutty! Did Obama arm this imaginary force, in your head?

 

[Care4all]

The 2nd amendment is about arming and regulating state Militia,

No....nothing in our history, tradition or wording of that Amendment supports what you say.....nothing...not one little thing.....

Not true.

Nothing supports your interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

 

[Failzero]

I recommend that we stop selling handguns and anyone caught outside their home with one gets locked up. Anyone who leaves a gun in a vehicle gets locked up too. Anyone caught trying to board a plane with a gun gets ten years. You and yours are the enablers.

Lol at the Communist pushin Communist stuff