Get Ready For A Cascade Of Lies On Guns

PoliticalChic

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1. John Miller is long time mouthpiece for NYC Police. He was on the air hand-wringing about how terrible the new concealed carry decision is.
You can hear the interview here:


"....they're gonna make this the Wild Wild East!"

"History has shown us that in the places where [more people get legal carry permits] more guns are stolen, more are found by their children, more accidental shootings....

....nobody can tell a story where good has come in other places...."


This is proof of Rule #1
Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.



2. The demand from the establishment is that all of us put our lives and safety in the hand of politicians and police.

How has that worked out?

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Sleepy Joe just signed Draconian Gun Control.

Time to just sit back and see if the new law eliminates violence in America or not.

I'm guessing "or not", but you don't have to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict that libs still won't admit they are wrong and repeal this latest Atrocity.
 
The turd is unaware of several states that long ago did away with concealed carry permit requirement no attendant increase in murder rate developed.
 
What mistruths have been presented about firearms?

Is it that rifles, like the AK-47 and AR-15 are used in a minority of situations, or that handguns are used in the majority of incidents. Will it be a "we need to do something" scenario, again, which I expect from Democrats ... even though it'll target symptoms instead of the underlying problem?
 
What mistruths have been presented about firearms?

Is it that rifles, like the AK-47 and AR-15 are used in a minority of situations, or that handguns are used in the majority of incidents. Will it be a "we need to do something" scenario, again, which I expect from Democrats ... even though it'll target symptoms instead of the underlying problem?


It seems you are upset, but your position is unclear.

Please articulate.



Are you agreeing that gun laws, statutes, regulation, gun free zone are aimed at law abiding citizens, not criminals who don't obey any laws?
 
"History has shown us that in the places where [more people get legal carry permits] more guns are stolen, more are found by their children, more accidental shootings....

....nobody can tell a story where good has come in other places...."
John Miller of the NYC PD



Watch the WSJ expose the lie.


"More Legal Guns Reduced Crime in Brazil

Homicide fell 34% after Bolsonaro made firearms permits easier and cheaper.​

“Lives are on the line,” President Biden said after the Supreme Court held New York state’s restrictive gun-permit regime unconstitutional last week. Gov. Kathy Hochul warned: “This could place millions of New Yorkers in harm’s way.” Brazil’s experience suggests otherwise.

In 2018, the year before Jair Bolsonaro became president, Brazil had one of the highest homicide rates among developed countries: 27.8 per 100,000 people, compared with 5 per 100,000 in the U.S. Mr. Bolsonaro’s solution: “Give guns to good people. Let people have guns so that they have the chance to defend themselves.”
 
"During his presidential campaign, critics said he had it dangerously wrong. A Bloomberg Opinion writer scoffed: “It’s hard to buy the current proposals championed by gun lobbyists and a few political yahoos who aim to make Brazil safer by slackening controls.” The New York Times wrote in a news story that his proposals were “worrying some experts who argue that more guns fuel more violence.”

Brazil’s pre-2019 laws looked like the wish list of American gun-control advocates. Owning a gun without a license carries a four-year prison sentence. By comparison, almost no state in the U.S. requires a license to own a gun, and 25 states don’t require a license to carry a gun.

In Brazil aspiring gun owners have to be at least 25, undergo psychological and technical aptitude screening, show proof of employment, and explain why they want a firearm. Mr. Bolsonaro eliminated the psychological and other screening requirements.

By November 2021, Mr. Bolsonaro had made 32 changes to ease Brazil’s gun laws. Brazilians were allowed to own more and more-powerful guns—up to six guns and up to .50 caliber, the same maximum caliber as the U.S. He raised the maximum annual ammunition purchase to 5,000 rounds a year from 50. He made it easier to carry concealed handguns in public.


Instead of surging, crime declined sharply in Brazil. In three years under Mr. Bolsonaro, the homicide rate has fallen 34%, to 18.5 per 100,000.

The media and gun-control advocates were wrong about Brazil. Mr. Biden and Ms. Hochul should take note."
 
It seems you are upset, but your position is unclear.

Please articulate.



Are you agreeing that gun laws, statutes, regulation, gun free zone are aimed at law abiding citizens, not criminals who don't obey any laws?
Not upset at all .. Not clear on your position as well .. I may have mistakenly interpreted your post -- often times, when you hear facts, they are skewed information by individuals who know little or nothing about firearms. My apologies if this is the case ..

You are spot on that gun legislation only impacts law abiding citizens, and criminals .. well .. are criminals because they don't care about the law.
 
Let's get right to the heart of the Democrat propaganda......and put a stake through it:


What if you have no gun laws, no gun restrictions, no gun free zones????????

If you believe the 'wild, wild West,' everyone will shoot everyone else, lies......



.....explain this:

After Mississippi, Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the nation.

" It’s the only state where people as young as 16 can purchase certain types of guns, and there are no laws that prevent people from bringing guns into places of worship, bars or restaurants where alcohol is served, or polling places. Unlike most other states in the Northeast, there’s also no law regulating firearm sales at gun shows."

"Right to keep and bear arms shall never be questioned in Vermont, according to Article 1, Section 16. No state permit is required to buy and possess a shotgun, rifle or handgun. However, if you wish to own machine gun, it is lawful but has to be legally registered. It is important to note that in Vermont, it is illegal to hunt (or possess while hunting) with an automatic firearm. Also, it is legal to carry firearm openly if you are at least 21 years old or between 18 and 21 on active duty in the Armed Forces or National Guard or if you are an honorably discharged veteran. While it is illegal to hunt with an automatic firearm, those who committed violent crimes, mentally ill as well as drug and alcohol abusers can legally buy firearms. Still,
Vermont has the lowest violent crime rate in USA."
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When will you realize that Democrats lie about everything????
 
"History has shown us that in the places where [more people get legal carry permits] more guns are stolen, more are found by their children, more accidental shootings....

....nobody can tell a story where good has come in other places...."
John Miller of the NYC PD
All I can say is that when we say we back the blue, remember that not all of the blue back us.
 
Let's get right to the heart of the Democrat propaganda......and put a stake through it:


What if you have no gun laws, no gun restrictions, no gun free zones????????

If you believe the 'wild, wild West,' everyone will shoot everyone else, lies......



.....explain this:

After Mississippi, Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the nation.

" It’s the only state where people as young as 16 can purchase certain types of guns, and there are no laws that prevent people from bringing guns into places of worship, bars or restaurants where alcohol is served, or polling places. Unlike most other states in the Northeast, there’s also no law regulating firearm sales at gun shows."

"Right to keep and bear arms shall never be questioned in Vermont, according to Article 1, Section 16. No state permit is required to buy and possess a shotgun, rifle or handgun. However, if you wish to own machine gun, it is lawful but has to be legally registered. It is important to note that in Vermont, it is illegal to hunt (or possess while hunting) with an automatic firearm. Also, it is legal to carry firearm openly if you are at least 21 years old or between 18 and 21 on active duty in the Armed Forces or National Guard or if you are an honorably discharged veteran. While it is illegal to hunt with an automatic firearm, those who committed violent crimes, mentally ill as well as drug and alcohol abusers can legally buy firearms. Still,
Vermont has the lowest violent crime rate in USA."
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When will you realize that Democrats lie about everything????


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