CIA Removed President of Guatemala Jacobo Arbenz

[Disir]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

 

[Pogo]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical. Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

 

[JGalt]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical. Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

Nobody can say less with more words, than pogo.

 

[Disir]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

It isn't just related. It is the event that kicks off a 36 year civil war in Guatemala.

 

[Pogo]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

It isn't just related. It is the event that kicks off a 36 year civil war in Guatemala.

Indeed, a whole world of hurt in Guatemala from that event, not unlike those generated by US covert actions in Iran, in Costa Rica, in Brazil, in the Dominican Republic, etc. To me this is more a story about CIA covert sabotage and general imperialism especially as promulgated by the Dulles brothers, than it is about specifically Guatemala. Fun fact - the US transformed from what it was into an imperialistic actor with the "annexation" of the Kingdom of Hawaìi in the late 19th century, under the direction of Sec of State John Watson Foster, the grandfather of the Dulles brothers and the namesake of the older one.

 

[Disir]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

It isn't just related. It is the event that kicks off a 36 year civil war in Guatemala.

Indeed, a whole world of hurt in Guatemala from that event, not unlike those generated by US covert actions in Iran, in Costa Rica, in Brazil, in the Dominican Republic, etc. To me this is more a story about CIA covert sabotage and general imperialism especially as promulgated by the Dulles brothers, than it is about specifically Guatemala. Fun fact - the US transformed from what it was into an imperialistic actor with the "annexation" of the Kingdom of Hawaìi in the late 19th century, under the direction of Sec of State John Watson Foster, the grandfather of the Dulles brothers and the namesake of the older one.

Yabut, this was in Guatemala, a Latin American country and the event precipitated a 36 year civil war. Thus, it belongs in the Latin America section.

 

[Pogo]

Being an event of 2/3 of a century ago though, this thread should be in History.

Not if you want to understand some of the issues that are happening in Guatemala now.

Now - and a year ago - and five years ago - and ten, twenty, thirty years ago. This is the value of history isn't it.

You are not allowed within 150 miles of my bookshelves.

How interesting.

The point being, I've (for one) made uncountable references to this historical event around here for years, when the context invited it. Because it's a historical event that shaped the decades after it. Sure it's related to Latin America (but also to the US/CIA) but its significance is historical. It's illustrative of the legacy of the Dulles brothers, the CIA and the Eisenhower administration, all of which are long gone. And that makes it historical Valuable to the comprehension of contemporary events, absolutely. History always is.

It isn't just related. It is the event that kicks off a 36 year civil war in Guatemala.

Indeed, a whole world of hurt in Guatemala from that event, not unlike those generated by US covert actions in Iran, in Costa Rica, in Brazil, in the Dominican Republic, etc. To me this is more a story about CIA covert sabotage and general imperialism especially as promulgated by the Dulles brothers, than it is about specifically Guatemala. Fun fact - the US transformed from what it was into an imperialistic actor with the "annexation" of the Kingdom of Hawaìi in the late 19th century, under the direction of Sec of State John Watson Foster, the grandfather of the Dulles brothers and the namesake of the older one.

Yabut, this was in Guatemala, a Latin American country and the event precipitated a 36 year civil war. Thus, it belongs in the Latin America section.

It's not wrong to be in the Latin America section.

It's just MORE not-wrong if it's in History. (Which it now looks like it is, so the point is moot)

Everybody knows we have way too many forum categories around here, and the criticism thereof points out that the same story could appear in any of five or six fora all of which would be valid.

 

[Grumblenuts]

 

[AMart]

CIA wacked a bunch of latin American presidents/dictators. They actually have done some decent work down there. And no none of them were headed for first world status regardless and yes a bunch of those people would try to get to the usa regardless.

 

[whitehall]

The CIA has been out of control since Wild Bill Donovan. When we depended on the Agency we were usually disappointed. When NK blindsided the US and invaded SK the CIA didn't have a clue. The Berlin Wall, Cuba, and most importantly 9-11 came as a surprise to the CIA. President Kennedy used the CIA illegally to train and equip an invasion army which was abandoned at the Bay of Pigs. LBJ let the CIA run the Vietnam conflict while the Generals took a back seat. How did that work out? Now it seems the CIA has become a propaganda arm of the democrat socialist party. The former CIA head is busy telling lies about the Trump administration as a "contributor" to CNN.