Churches and other non-profits can now endorse political candidates

[MisterBeale]

Paying taxes doesn’t inhibit exercise of religion.

You already agreed that it did. If you now need to contort and twist reality to try to tax folks souls? We are done here, you have proved yourself a hypocritical authoritarian fool on this topic.

 

[Marener]

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You already agreed that it did. If you now need to contort and twist reality to try to tax folks souls? We are done here, you have proved yourself a hypocritical authoritarian fool on this topic.

They’re not being taxed because they’re a church.

If we taxed churches specifically, then you could claim they’re being inhibited, but that’s not what’s happening.

 

[MisterBeale]

They’re not being taxed because they’re a church.

If we taxed churches specifically, then you could claim they’re being inhibited, but that’s not what’s happening.

 

[Marener]

Does that mean no laws apply to churches?

I guess they don’t have to abide by building codes. Or child labor requirements. Maybe they should be able to create massive bonfires or blare music in the middle of the night?

Treating them like everyone else doesn’t inhibit them. The constitution prevents the law from singling them out.

 

[whitehall]

The dirty little secret is that so-called "black churches" have always ignored the statute to promote mostly democrat politicians. Hillary Clinton even took on an embarrassing black southern accent to promote her campaign in Alabama.

 

[MisterBeale]

Does that mean no laws apply to churches?

I guess they don’t have to abide by building codes. Or child labor requirements. Maybe they should be able to create massive bonfires or blare music in the middle of the night?

Treating them like everyone else doesn’t inhibit them. The constitution prevents the law from singling them out.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump

They’re not being taxed because they’re a church.

I warned everyone years ago that allowing Presidents to use government agencies to push political agendas was a mistake but was told it was I was just being paranoid. Well, now we see it again it is the other side doing it.

We cannot let either side of the political spectrum bend laws because once precedent is set, it’s over. I watch how each president keeps passing EO’s, and them trying to push their power limits, each president it gets a little worse and I expect the next president to follow the last several. We need to break the two party system, they are gaining too much power.

 

[Papageorgio]

Does that mean no laws apply to churches?

I guess they don’t have to abide by building codes. Or child labor requirements. Maybe they should be able to create massive bonfires or blare music in the middle of the night?

Treating them like everyone else doesn’t inhibit them. The constitution prevents the law from singling them out.

During Covid churches were singled out, they were not allowed to congregate for worship while states allowed protests, allowed shopping, allowed work, which as the courts ruled was an infringement on their first amendment rights.

 

[Marener]

During Covid churches were singled out, they were not allowed to congregate for worship while states allowed protests, allowed shopping, allowed work, which as the courts ruled was an infringement on their first amendment rights.

Churches were especially problematic for COVID, since singing aerosolized particles a lot.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

The deadly outbreak among members of a choir has stunned health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

www.latimes.com

 

[martybegan]

Churches were especially problematic for COVID, since singing aerosolized particles a lot.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

The deadly outbreak among members of a choir has stunned health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

www.latimes.com

That is one of the dumbest excuses I have ever heard for the COVID idiocy.

 

[Papageorgio]

Churches were especially problematic for COVID, since singing aerosolized particles a lot.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

The deadly outbreak among members of a choir has stunned health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

www.latimes.com

Irrelevant, they were singled out, they were denied their Constitutional right to assemble. There was one church that rented a drive in, they were all socially distance and all in their cars, yet the government fined them and shut them down, all while allowing shoulder to shoulder protests because they were considered essential and religious services weren’t. Liquor, pot and abortion clinics were considered essential, going to a religious service to was not.

If people did not feel comfortable going to church during Covid, they had a choice not to, going to protests where yelling, screaming, close contact, we’re the norm, they were allowed, going to a religious service was not. Churches were singled out, the courts agreed.

We need to stand up for our rights because losing just a little could mean a loss of all.

 

[pknopp]

During Covid churches were singled out, they were not allowed to congregate for worship while states allowed protests, allowed shopping, allowed work, which as the courts ruled was an infringement on their first amendment rights.

Our church voted to not hold services. No one forced us.

 

[Marener]

Irrelevant, they were singled out

I mean, not really. It’s not like concert halls or nightclubs were allowed to operate.

 

[Papageorgio]

Our church voted to not hold services. No one forced us.

And you had a choice as all religions should, as well as individuals, but that is not the government’s choice to make.

 

[dblack]

Does that mean no laws apply to churches?

No. It means laws cannot target churches, for favor nor for persecution.

Treating them like everyone else doesn’t inhibit them. The constitution prevents the law from singling them out.

Exactly.

 

[initforme]

If they are going to endorse candidates the start taxing the heck out of them. No more non profit status. Seems only common sense.

 

[Papageorgio]

I mean, not really. It’s not like concert halls or nightclubs were allowed to operate.

Going to a concert, a nightclub are not constitutionally protected rights. Practicing your religion is a constitutionally protected right right, just as protesting is a constitutional right, deeming one essential and the other not essential violates the 1st, and 14th amendment.

Going to a liquor store, a cannabis store or abortion clinics are not constitutional rights, however allowances were made.

Religious organizations did not get the same allowance. The courts agreed.

 

[pknopp]

If they are going to endorse candidates the start taxing the heck out of them. No more non profit status. Seems only common sense.

They don't make a profit. Its not really a status. There is no profit.

 

[dblack]

If they are going to endorse candidates the start taxing the heck out of them. No more non profit status. Seems only common sense.

So, in your view, is the point of the tax exemption to silence religions politically?

 

[Marener]

Going to a concert, a nightclub are not constitutionally protected rights. Practicing your religion is a constitutionally protected right right, just as protesting is a constitutional right, deeming one essential and the other not essential violates the 1st, and 14th amendment.

Going to a liquor store, a cannabis store or abortion clinics are not constitutional rights, however allowances were made.

Religious organizations did not get the same allowance. The courts agreed.

Free speech is a constitutional right, so there’s not any differentiation between a church and a concert hall.

The point is that they weren’t “singled out” as you claim.