Christians United For Israel

[Indeependent]

LOL! Here is a fair & just solution to the land issue the Palestinians supporters will surely like, For all Palestinians who hold deeds to the land & properties they occupy can stay. And for all Palestinians who don't hold deeds to the land & property they occupy, its adios!

Your new excuse for ethnic cleansing is even more pathetic than the current excuses.

Abraham purchased a field in Hebron, not the whole town.

Genesis 23: 7-9

This is the level of discourse one must deal with when having a discussion with someone whose knowledge base is Cut and Paste anti-Jew sites.

 

[Billo_Really]

Pre-1948 mass murdering of Jews in the land currently known as Israel...Rationale?

Tell that to the arabs who were massacred at Deir Yessin. There was murder on both sides, but mostly it was Zionists murdering innocent arabs.

1948-Tanks roll in from Jordan, Egypt and Jordan...Rationale?

To stop Zionists from taking land that wasn't given to them in the Mandate.

1967-Tanks roll in from etc

Tanks rolled from Israel into Egypt.

1974-ditto

That one arabs attacked first.

The bottom line is that Arabs are a bunch of murderous scum and even the British, French, Germans, US, etc....armed the Jews to the teeth in 1948 because nobody wanted a unified Arab world power to emerge.

So everybody, including all the Arab nations, stand by whilst their "helpless" murderous scum "Palestinians" and Gazans brethren continue to build their bombs to strap around the waists of their children.
So I guess every nation on earth is aiding and abetting this ethnic cleansing of murderous scum.

Good.

Israel murders arabs at a rate of 10-1.

I wouldn't be calling others "murderous scum" with Israel's track history.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

MJB ----SILLY BOY-------read the koran ------in fact,, read ancient writings and LEARN!!!!!

How is land ownership attained? -------well.........more than 4000 years ago-----
in the land mass called "CANAAN" ------Abraham PURCHASED hebron----for
something called "money" -------at that time "money" consisted of gold &/or
silver----------usually shapped into rings------and evaluated by WEIGHT-------
the "SHEKEL" is a weight. Ownership of land by PURCHASE------has been
known in the middle east for MILLENIA !!!!!!! but-----ownership of land----
according to the "isa-respecters" -------is based on invasion and rape and killing
and enslavement. FACE REALITY MJB--------the isa-respecters from mecca
and rome------OWN IT ALL Now do you understand?
Even today-----KHARTROUM claims southern sudan based on "LAW"-----the
law of rape and killing and enslavement

(PS-----all of the indian subcontinent is OWNED ---by the meccaists----by the
same principle-------invaision, rape and killing and enslavement......)

Now please count for us the number of times scripture records a land purchase and WHY these particular purchases are recorded.
And in whose favor those purchases were recorded.
You're NOT gonna like the answer.

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

 

[irosie91]

learn a bit of history----BILGE-----your kith and kin dance on the murdered bodies of
hundreds of millions------with PRIDE IN ISA-ALLAHUABARRRRRRRR.......

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Palestinians are cut off by walls, settlements and Jewish-only roads.. They are cut off from their farms and olive groves, mosques, schools and relatives.

There is no room for a two state solution .. That window closed many years ago..

Two very strong points.

With the first, I'd add that Israel considers farmland as vacant if the owner can't get their to do a productive job of farming. Thus, these access limitations lead farmers having their farms stolen.


On the second, it seems much more logical at this point to include all West Bank as part of Israel. By international law, that would make ALL residents of West Bank full citizens of Israel. From there, it would become a fight for equality, much as it is in any apartheid nation.

That would be a touch sell for Palestinians who have UN recognition, a viable state (according to the UN Security Council) and national aspirations.

For Israel, they would have to come to the understanding that their nation is a secular democratic state (such as the USA) - not a religious state. After all, the majority would probably be Islamic within the foreseeable future.

Wrong. Israel is a Jewish State and if you don't like that you can go to another nation - even an Islamic State - there are many to choose from. - Jeri

 

[Shaarona]

The three different categories of land in Israel are: those which may not be purchased by foreign citizens; those which may be purchased by foreign citizens, yet are subject to various conditions; and those which may be purchased by foreign citizens not subject to any conditions.

The overwhelming majority of land is Israel is owned by the State and only a small minority is under private ownership. A negligible portion of land in Israel has not yet been categorized into either of these two areas.

Approximately 7% of the allocated land in Israel is privately owned. The rest, i.e. 93%, is owned by the State and is known as “Israeli Land”. Israel’s Basic Law on real estate states that Israel’s Land is jointly owned by the State (69%), the Development Authority (12%), and the Jewish National Fund (12%). While the law expressly forbids transferring of such land either by sale or other means, it does imply that a long term lease would be permitted.


I can't post links yet.

 

[Truthseeker420]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig]Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Shaarona]

MJB ----SILLY BOY-------read the koran ------in fact,, read ancient writings and LEARN!!!!!

How is land ownership attained? -------well.........more than 4000 years ago-----
in the land mass called "CANAAN" ------Abraham PURCHASED hebron----for
something called "money" -------at that time "money" consisted of gold &/or
silver----------usually shapped into rings------and evaluated by WEIGHT-------
the "SHEKEL" is a weight. Ownership of land by PURCHASE------has been
known in the middle east for MILLENIA !!!!!!! but-----ownership of land----
according to the "isa-respecters" -------is based on invasion and rape and killing
and enslavement. FACE REALITY MJB--------the isa-respecters from mecca
and rome------OWN IT ALL Now do you understand?
Even today-----KHARTROUM claims southern sudan based on "LAW"-----the
law of rape and killing and enslavement

(PS-----all of the indian subcontinent is OWNED ---by the meccaists----by the
same principle-------invaision, rape and killing and enslavement......)

Now please count for us the number of times scripture records a land purchase and WHY these particular purchases are recorded.
And in whose favor those purchases were recorded.
You're NOT gonna like the answer.

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

 

[Indeependent]

Now please count for us the number of times scripture records a land purchase and WHY these particular purchases are recorded.
And in whose favor those purchases were recorded.
You're NOT gonna like the answer.

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Prove it.

 

[Indeependent]

Pre-1948 mass murdering of Jews in the land currently known as Israel...Rationale?

Tell that to the arabs who were massacred at Deir Yessin. There was murder on both sides, but mostly it was Zionists murdering innocent arabs.

1948-Tanks roll in from Jordan, Egypt and Jordan...Rationale?

To stop Zionists from taking land that wasn't given to them in the Mandate.

Tanks rolled from Israel into Egypt.

1974-ditto

That one arabs attacked first.

The bottom line is that Arabs are a bunch of murderous scum and even the British, French, Germans, US, etc....armed the Jews to the teeth in 1948 because nobody wanted a unified Arab world power to emerge.

So everybody, including all the Arab nations, stand by whilst their "helpless" murderous scum "Palestinians" and Gazans brethren continue to build their bombs to strap around the waists of their children.
So I guess every nation on earth is aiding and abetting this ethnic cleansing of murderous scum.

Good.

Israel murders arabs at a rate of 10-1.

I wouldn't be calling others "murderous scum" with Israel's track history.

Your sound-bite historical knowledge would be a delight in court.

 

[Shaarona]

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Prove it.

You mean that the cuneiform tablets from Sumer, Ugarit and Dilmun predate Judaism by a few thousand years... or that there is NO archeological evidence for a GLOBAL Flood or the Exodus??

 

[Truthseeker420]

John Hagee is a terrorist, un American and is one of the top ten worst Americans.

 

[Indeependent]

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Prove it.

You mean that the cuneiform tablets from Sumer, Ugarit and Dilmun predate Judaism by a few thousand years... or that there is NO archeological evidence for a GLOBAL Flood or the Exodus??

You haven't studied the verses that deal with the dispersion of Noah's sons and his sons children and their tribes.
Ham, Shem and Yefes each went their separate ways and recorded various versions of their families histories, much like the media does today on a daily basis.
Of course, those civilizations are all gone since they had no unifying personalities or a covenant with God.
It's interesting the information to be culled from a careful reading of the Bible and archeological finds.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Now please count for us the number of times scripture records a land purchase and WHY these particular purchases are recorded.
And in whose favor those purchases were recorded.
You're NOT gonna like the answer.

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Abraham, Moses and Noah are not fictional characters. The Bible is not a fictional book. If you do not believe in G-d why did you use scriptures as your defense?

 

[Indeependent]

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Prove it.

You mean that the cuneiform tablets from Sumer, Ugarit and Dilmun predate Judaism by a few thousand years... or that there is NO archeological evidence for a GLOBAL Flood or the Exodus??

The Bible doesn't state that the Flood was a global event; it doesn't even hint at it.
Did you think even for a moment that the Exodus would be recorded by any nation except for the Children of Israel?
The Bible is rather clear that every nation surrounding Egypt was terrified.
I doubt any of these nations would record anything glorifying this event.

 

[Indeependent]

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Abraham, Moses and Noah are not fictional characters. The Bible is not a fictional book. If you do not believe in G-d why did you use scriptures as your defense?

THAT's A good question.

 

[Shaarona]

Doubtful. It is you who will not like the answer, Shaaron. You have missed the point entirely. Abraham received Israel as an inheritance to give to his son, Isaac, and his descendants... the land was not "purchased" by contract but rather inherited by "covenant". There is a huge difference between a "contract" which can be broken or expire vs. a "covenant" which has no expiration date and cannot be broken under any condition. Let me know how many scriptures you'll need to prove that to you.

Note* The Arabs own 99.4% of the middle east while Israel owns .6%.

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Abraham, Moses and Noah are not fictional characters. The Bible is not a fictional book. If you do not believe in G-d why did you use scriptures as your defense?

I do believe in God.. I don't believe the Bible is a history or science book.

 

[Billo_Really]

Your sound-bite historical knowledge would be a delight in court.

Yeah, because I'd win my case and you'd be forced to pay all my legal bills.

 

[Shaarona]

Prove it.

You mean that the cuneiform tablets from Sumer, Ugarit and Dilmun predate Judaism by a few thousand years... or that there is NO archeological evidence for a GLOBAL Flood or the Exodus??

You haven't studied the verses that deal with the dispersion of Noah's sons and his sons children and their tribes.
Ham, Shem and Yefes each went their separate ways and recorded various versions of their families histories, much like the media does today on a daily basis.
Of course, those civilizations are all gone since they had no unifying personalities or a covenant with God.
It's interesting the information to be culled from a careful reading of the Bible and archeological finds.

I have read the Bible many times.. The flood story is taken from a much earlier myths.. Read Samuel Noah Kramer... He spent his whole life translating the texts.

There is no archeologist or geologist in the world that believes in a Global Flood or the Exodus.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Well.. look who wrote the book.. Abraham is a fictional character.. like Moses and Noah.. All those stories were borrowed from Sumer and the Ugarit.

Abraham, Moses and Noah are not fictional characters. The Bible is not a fictional book. If you do not believe in G-d why did you use scriptures as your defense?

I do believe in God.. I don't believe the Bible is a history or science book.

If you believed in G-d, you'd believe His Book.