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Many indicators that China is preparing for some sort of limited conflict with Japan...expect this before Obama ends his term...the Chinese know Obama is too weak to do anything about it.
Navy Official: China Training for 'Short Sharp War' with Japan | USNI News
This is where the fight will occur,
China ships in disputed waters: Japan coastguard | NDTV.com
and contrary to leftwingers opinion, China has been building a blue water navy for several years now.
These moves into the 'distant seas' would seem inevitable for a nation as large as China, he said. But it goes without saying that this expansion into blue waters is largely about countering the Pacific Fleet.
Chinas Xinhua news agency reported that a PLA Navy destroyer and two frigates exercising in the Western Pacific earlier this year were practicing maritime confrontation, open-sea mobile combat, law enforcement and open-sea naval commanding.
Make no mistake, the PLA Navy is focused on war at sea and about sinking an opposing fleet, Fanell said.
There is evidence that the PLA Navy has ambitions even beyond the Pacific.
Van Tol said China sent a frigate through the Suez Canal in 2011 to evacuate citizens during unrest in Libia, and Chinese ships have participated in anti-piracy efforts off the coast of Somalia."
China's naval aspirations: A 'blue-water' force - Stripes - Independent U.S. military news from Iraq, Afghanistan and bases worldwide
This is where the fight will occur,
China ships in disputed waters: Japan coastguard | NDTV.com
and contrary to leftwingers opinion, China has been building a blue water navy for several years now.
These moves into the 'distant seas' would seem inevitable for a nation as large as China, he said. But it goes without saying that this expansion into blue waters is largely about countering the Pacific Fleet.
Chinas Xinhua news agency reported that a PLA Navy destroyer and two frigates exercising in the Western Pacific earlier this year were practicing maritime confrontation, open-sea mobile combat, law enforcement and open-sea naval commanding.
Make no mistake, the PLA Navy is focused on war at sea and about sinking an opposing fleet, Fanell said.
There is evidence that the PLA Navy has ambitions even beyond the Pacific.
Van Tol said China sent a frigate through the Suez Canal in 2011 to evacuate citizens during unrest in Libia, and Chinese ships have participated in anti-piracy efforts off the coast of Somalia."
China's naval aspirations: A 'blue-water' force - Stripes - Independent U.S. military news from Iraq, Afghanistan and bases worldwide
We have names for Chinas ships........Targets
This is where the fight will occur,
China ships in disputed waters: Japan coastguard | NDTV.com
and contrary to leftwingers opinion, China has been building a blue water navy for several years now.
These moves into the 'distant seas' would seem inevitable for a nation as large as China, he said. But it goes without saying that this expansion into blue waters is largely about countering the Pacific Fleet.
Chinas Xinhua news agency reported that a PLA Navy destroyer and two frigates exercising in the Western Pacific earlier this year were practicing maritime confrontation, open-sea mobile combat, law enforcement and open-sea naval commanding.
Make no mistake, the PLA Navy is focused on war at sea and about sinking an opposing fleet, Fanell said.
There is evidence that the PLA Navy has ambitions even beyond the Pacific.
Van Tol said China sent a frigate through the Suez Canal in 2011 to evacuate citizens during unrest in Libia, and Chinese ships have participated in anti-piracy efforts off the coast of Somalia."
China's naval aspirations: A 'blue-water' force - Stripes - Independent U.S. military news from Iraq, Afghanistan and bases worldwide
We have names for Chinas ships........Targets
Yes, if WE decide to shoot, that is correct. However, if Japan is left to fend for herself, she will lose. That was the point of the OP.
Obama should come out and say if someone attack's Japan they attack America too.
That would silence half of his detractors and be the most badass thing he's done in his presidency. Sadly, there's no way that'll happen
What if I don't give a sh!t?
The Chinese military has fundamentally changed its strategy in just the last year or so....... recent writings by PLA officers indicate “a growing confidence within the PLA that they can prevent U.S. involvement if they attack Taiwan or Japan" and it now appears they are more apt to attack Japan....they have not forgotten what Japan did to them....the desire for revenge is very strong.
Beijing believes it can attack Taiwan or another neighbor while also bloodlessly deterring U.S. intervention. It would do so by deploying such overwhelmingly strong military forces—ballistic missiles, aircraft carriers, jet fighters and the like—that Washington dare not get involved.
As one Chinese General bluntly put it..."would America sacrifice Los Angeles in order to defend Taiwan" and recent American actions gives them many reasons to think it would not ....aka Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. The well known American reluctance to take casualties is having a major influence on Chinese Planning.
The Chinese military has fundamentally changed its strategy in just the last year or so....... recent writings by PLA officers indicate a growing confidence within the PLA that they can prevent U.S. involvement if they attack Taiwan or Japan" and it now appears they are more apt to attack Japan....they have not forgotten what Japan did to them....the desire for revenge is very strong.
Beijing believes it can attack Taiwan or another neighbor while also bloodlessly deterring U.S. intervention. It would do so by deploying such overwhelmingly strong military forcesballistic missiles, aircraft carriers, jet fighters and the likethat Washington dare not get involved.
As one Chinese General bluntly put it..."would America sacrifice Los Angeles in order to defend Taiwan" and recent American actions gives them many reasons to think it would not ....aka Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. The well known American reluctance to take casualties is having a major influence on Chinese Planning.
In spite of planning for over 60 years, China is incapable of invading Taiwan a mere 90 miles away. They lack the Naval strength to traverse the straight without being wiped out by missiles, aircraft and submarines.
An attack on Japan would be impossible
The Chinese military has fundamentally changed its strategy in just the last year or so....... recent writings by PLA officers indicate a growing confidence within the PLA that they can prevent U.S. involvement if they attack Taiwan or Japan" and it now appears they are more apt to attack Japan....they have not forgotten what Japan did to them....the desire for revenge is very strong.
Beijing believes it can attack Taiwan or another neighbor while also bloodlessly deterring U.S. intervention. It would do so by deploying such overwhelmingly strong military forcesballistic missiles, aircraft carriers, jet fighters and the likethat Washington dare not get involved.
As one Chinese General bluntly put it..."would America sacrifice Los Angeles in order to defend Taiwan" and recent American actions gives them many reasons to think it would not ....aka Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. The well known American reluctance to take casualties is having a major influence on Chinese Planning.
In spite of planning for over 60 years, China is incapable of invading Taiwan a mere 90 miles away. They lack the Naval strength to traverse the straight without being wiped out by missiles, aircraft and submarines.
An attack on Japan would be impossible
Anytime China decided to attack Taiwan she could. She would also suffer tremendous losses but when you have a billion people that's not a issue. The reason why China hasn't bothered is because they have been quietly converting the people over to their side for a long time. In the next 20 years or so Taiwan will beg to be let back into the fold.
Japan, on the other hand is a different challenge. That's why China has been developing a blue water navy. She has been waiting for a weak POTUS, like the one in office, so that if they decide to act...we won't.
They are weighing the pro's and cons of an attack to take the islands right now. How much western money will they lose if they decide to go. Is it worth the financial hit to do it. When those numbers pencil out, they'll move, and ain't no one going to stop them.
This thread has some really amusing posts.
The idiots are moaning about Chinese ships being in disputed waters off China but totally ignore the minor detail, there are American ships in disputed waters off China, that's half a world away from America.
China or Japan may be right on this issue but America is wrong.
Sod all to do with you.
