Child Of Lesbian Couple Speaks Against Same-sex Marriage.

[Noomi]

Seems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.

Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk

Contrary to what the gay lobby claims, Lopez writes, children raised by same-sex parents “deeply feel the loss of a father or mother, no matter how much we love our gay parents.”

These children know they are “powerless to stop the decision to deprive them of a father or mother,” he adds. And this decision comes with serious and often permanent consequences. For instance, they “feel disconnected from the gender cues of people around them,” and long for a role model of the opposite sex.

While they love the people who raised them, they experience anger at their decision to deprive them of one or both biological parents—and “shame or guilt for resenting their loving parents.”

The so-called “consensus” by psychologists and pediatricians on the soundness of same-sex parenting is, Lopez writes, “frankly bogus.” The truth is, there is no data to support that assertion.

Instead, as political scientists Leon Kass of the University of Chicago and Harvey Mansfield of Harvard University note, “Claims that science provides support for constitutionalizing a right to same-sex marriage must rest necessarily on ideology”—and “ideology is not science.”

You cannot long for something which you have never had.

Guess that explains all the 40 year old virgins?

Hmm...

 

[Noomi]

Everyone had a mother and father.

I think the man in the article is very selfish.

 

[elektra]

Everyone had a mother and father.

I think the man in the article is very selfish.

The man wish he had his father. So selfish.

 

[Noomi]

Everyone had a mother and father.

I think the man in the article is very selfish.

The man wish he had his father. So selfish.

He is ungrateful for what his parents have done for him.

 

[elektra]

Everyone had a mother and father.

I think the man in the article is very selfish.

The man wish he had his father. So selfish.

He is ungrateful for what his parents have done for him.

Liar, he states the opposite.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nice, anyone can link ot the American Academy of Pediatrics, so what, they are the Activists.

Link to the scientific research you speak of, it is so flawed and narrow that its ridiculous. I bet you never even read what you think exists.

A simple statement by a political organization is hardly valid.

I've had this LGBT crew laugh down CDC statistics and the Mayo Clinic's report on pedophiles. The AAP and the AMA both answer to the APA which was taken over by gay activists in the 1970s. They unilaterally replaced the ruling scientific principle [google "leona tyler"] and replaced it with a political agenda that does in no way take its final conclusions from science. How else could you explain the AMA abandoning the hippocratic oath to help patients mutilate healthy organs ["sex change operations"]?

Also google "Cummings APA" for more information..

The AAP and the AMA both answer to the APA which was taken over by gay activists in the 1970s. If putting homophobes on the outside where they beling is activism, so be it.

 

[Noomi]

Everyone had a mother and father.

I think the man in the article is very selfish.

The man wish he had his father. So selfish.

He is ungrateful for what his parents have done for him.

Liar, he states the opposite.

Homophobe.

 

[elektra]

Homophobe.

Can homosexuals be homophobes?

Bigot!

ever been to the ccbc on fis#!^& day?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There was a thread created awhile back with a video of a child from a same sex couple speaking in favor of gay marriage. Does that one child's opinion cancel out this one child's opinion?

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

What kids need most is a father and mother.

What children need most is to not be used as political pawns by conservatives hostile to the civil liberties of gay Americans.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There was a thread created awhile back with a video of a child from a same sex couple speaking in favor of gay marriage. Does that one child's opinion cancel out this one child's opinion?

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

Correct.


It's also telling, but not surprising, how most conservatives wish to force government into the private lives of Americans, to seek to dictate to Americans what their families must look like, and what constitutes a 'real' family, where most on the right want government to decide what's best for American families.

 

[elektra]

Li

There was a thread created awhile back with a video of a child from a same sex couple speaking in favor of gay marriage. Does that one child's opinion cancel out this one child's opinion?

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

Correct.


It's also telling, but not surprising, how most conservatives wish to force government into the private lives of Americans, to seek to dictate to Americans what their families must look like, and what constitutes a 'real' family, where most on the right want government to decide what's best for American families.

Yet its the Liberal Democrat who uses Judges in the past to oppose civil rights of the blacks and now Judges who will destroy the Rights of Children.

Homosexuals have a right to Heterosexual Children? Children have no right to a Mother and a Father.

Two 50 year old men have a right to adopt an orphaned 13 year old boy? Two 50 year old men, one Daddy the other a Crossdresser have the right to adopt an infant?

What a grand experiment you propose, no society ever before has designed the type of families Liberals and Democrats dictate.

yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.

Children come before Adult Homosexuals.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Li

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

Correct.


It's also telling, but not surprising, how most conservatives wish to force government into the private lives of Americans, to seek to dictate to Americans what their families must look like, and what constitutes a 'real' family, where most on the right want government to decide what's best for American families.

Yet its the Liberal Democrat who uses Judges in the past to oppose civil rights of the blacks and now Judges who will destroy the Rights of Children.

Homosexuals have a right to Heterosexual Children? Children have no right to a Mother and a Father.

Two 50 year old men have a right to adopt an orphaned 13 year old boy? Two 50 year old men, one Daddy the other a Crossdresser have the right to adopt an infant?

What a grand experiment you propose, no society ever before has designed the type of families Liberals and Democrats dictate.

yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.

Children come before Adult Homosexuals.

Unfounded, ignorant, hyperbolic nonsense, demagoguery and fear-mongering.


Judges rule in accordance with the Constitution and its case law, in accordance with the objective, documented evidence and facts of the case, where the burden rests solely with the state to justify its desire to deny a class of persons their civil liberties – and when the state fails to meet that burden, measures designed to adversely effect a class of persons are appropriate invalidated by the courts.


At trial of every case addressing the issue of same-sex couples being denied access to marriage law, those opposed to the equal protection rights of gay Americans failed time and again to produce any objective, documented evidence that children in homes with same-sex parents were at a 'disadvantage.'

 

[elektra]

Li

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

Correct.


It's also telling, but not surprising, how most conservatives wish to force government into the private lives of Americans, to seek to dictate to Americans what their families must look like, and what constitutes a 'real' family, where most on the right want government to decide what's best for American families.

Yet its the Liberal Democrat who uses Judges in the past to oppose civil rights of the blacks and now Judges who will destroy the Rights of Children.

Homosexuals have a right to Heterosexual Children? Children have no right to a Mother and a Father.

Two 50 year old men have a right to adopt an orphaned 13 year old boy? Two 50 year old men, one Daddy the other a Crossdresser have the right to adopt an infant?

What a grand experiment you propose, no society ever before has designed the type of families Liberals and Democrats dictate.

yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.

Children come before Adult Homosexuals.

Unfounded, ignorant, hyperbolic nonsense, demagoguery and fear-mongering.


Judges rule in accordance with the Constitution and its case law, in accordance with the objective, documented evidence and facts of the case, where the burden rests solely with the state to justify its desire to deny a class of persons their civil liberties – and when the state fails to meet that burden, measures designed to adversely effect a class of persons are appropriate invalidated by the courts.


At trial of every case addressing the issue of same-sex couples being denied access to marriage law, those opposed to the equal protection rights of gay Americans failed time and again to produce any objective, documented evidence that children in homes with same-sex parents were at a 'disadvantage.'

Just like when democrats ruled barring African Americans equal rights.

Took me a simple sentence to kill your beliefs, at that, Democrats have set a precedent for being wrong, as in the civil rights movement.

 

[Ibentoken]

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

What kids need most is a father and mother.

What children need most is to not be used as political pawns by conservatives hostile to the civil liberties of gay Americans.

LOL. Right. It's the normal people who use children for political purposes. You're blind. Silly hypocrite.

 

[AntiParty]

Seems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.

Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk

Contrary to what the gay lobby claims, Lopez writes, children raised by same-sex parents “deeply feel the loss of a father or mother, no matter how much we love our gay parents.”

These children know they are “powerless to stop the decision to deprive them of a father or mother,” he adds. And this decision comes with serious and often permanent consequences. For instance, they “feel disconnected from the gender cues of people around them,” and long for a role model of the opposite sex.

While they love the people who raised them, they experience anger at their decision to deprive them of one or both biological parents—and “shame or guilt for resenting their loving parents.”

The so-called “consensus” by psychologists and pediatricians on the soundness of same-sex parenting is, Lopez writes, “frankly bogus.” The truth is, there is no data to support that assertion.

Instead, as political scientists Leon Kass of the University of Chicago and Harvey Mansfield of Harvard University note, “Claims that science provides support for constitutionalizing a right to same-sex marriage must rest necessarily on ideology”—and “ideology is not science.”

Oh, so having 2 gay moms makes you want to have butt sex with dudes? I want to read the science on that one.

Look, gay marriage and gays with children are 2 VERY different topics.

Either way, I know a couple of gay girls that cant get married that are WAY better parents than some of my Christian family/friends.

One thing is certain, a male child of 2 women wants a mans perspective on life.....Again, this has nothing to do with butt sex you sick OP.

 

[elektra]

Seems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.

Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk

Contrary to what the gay lobby claims, Lopez writes, children raised by same-sex parents “deeply feel the loss of a father or mother, no matter how much we love our gay parents.”

These children know they are “powerless to stop the decision to deprive them of a father or mother,” he adds. And this decision comes with serious and often permanent consequences. For instance, they “feel disconnected from the gender cues of people around them,” and long for a role model of the opposite sex.

While they love the people who raised them, they experience anger at their decision to deprive them of one or both biological parents—and “shame or guilt for resenting their loving parents.”

The so-called “consensus” by psychologists and pediatricians on the soundness of same-sex parenting is, Lopez writes, “frankly bogus.” The truth is, there is no data to support that assertion.

Instead, as political scientists Leon Kass of the University of Chicago and Harvey Mansfield of Harvard University note, “Claims that science provides support for constitutionalizing a right to same-sex marriage must rest necessarily on ideology”—and “ideology is not science.”

Oh, so having 2 gay moms makes you want to have butt sex with dudes? I want to read the science on that one.

Look, gay marriage and gays with children are 2 VERY different topics.

Either way, I know a couple of gay girls that cant get married that are WAY better parents than some of my Christian family/friends.

One thing is certain, a male child of 2 women wants a mans perspective on life.....Again, this has nothing to do with butt sex you sick OP.

Wow, you have no argument unless you lie and put words in my mouth, good thing my back ain't turned to you.

Gee, liberal democrats are bigots.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Seems the only voice in this debate, is the voice of the Homosexual and the Activist. Now its time to here from the children being adopted into, "families". Children know right from wrong despite what the "experts", think.

Child of lesbian couple speaks out against gay marriage Denny Burk

Contrary to what the gay lobby claims, Lopez writes, children raised by same-sex parents “deeply feel the loss of a father or mother, no matter how much we love our gay parents.”

These children know they are “powerless to stop the decision to deprive them of a father or mother,” he adds. And this decision comes with serious and often permanent consequences. For instance, they “feel disconnected from the gender cues of people around them,” and long for a role model of the opposite sex.

While they love the people who raised them, they experience anger at their decision to deprive them of one or both biological parents—and “shame or guilt for resenting their loving parents.”

The so-called “consensus” by psychologists and pediatricians on the soundness of same-sex parenting is, Lopez writes, “frankly bogus.” The truth is, there is no data to support that assertion.

Instead, as political scientists Leon Kass of the University of Chicago and Harvey Mansfield of Harvard University note, “Claims that science provides support for constitutionalizing a right to same-sex marriage must rest necessarily on ideology”—and “ideology is not science.”

Can't miss something you've never known as with missing both mother and a father if you've never had that. And if you have and thus miss it, it's merely a change of status to be adapted to. There's no inherit benefit to male-female parents vs homosexual parents.

How many male-female marriages end where children are raised by just one parent? Are we proposing to forbid divorce now since both parents do so much better than just one?

First, lets start at the end of your statement, are we to forbid divorce? We certainly discourage divorce as any man who has went through divorce can attest to so you are kind of wrong thinking there are no restrictions or incentives not to divorce, especially with children and a mother that does not work.

Further, there is nothing we can do about divorce or death, so that is the natural way of things.

Second, children adopted into a homosexual man-man relationship, are forced into a family of your design and your choosing, a relationship that for the first time in history is a government/activist designed ruled and regulated relationship. So when there is a divorce or death in this New Social Unit of your design, any failure is thus a failure you have created. You will put children into that situation. Much different than being born into that situation.

Third, "Can't miss something you've never known". a statement more applicable is, "Can't understand something you've never lived".

Actually there is a benefit to having a Mother and Father, Mommy and Daddy make us, so that is one minor benefit.

Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.

This has to one of the most ignorant things I have ever encountered in this forum;

Parents means Mother and Father, not homosexual man-man playing daddy and mommy. In a homosexual relationship, there is no Father or Mother, there are no parents, its a misuse of words to imply, Father, Mother, Parents, are words that are like a jacket, something you can put on when you feel like it.

Obviously you have never been a parent yourself which probably explains why you are so ignorant.

Anyone can be a parent. Big Brothers/Big Sisters are actually substitute parents. An aunt, uncle or even just a neighbor can be a parent. There are Foster Parents. None of them have to be either the mother or the father of the child being parented.

Liar

You are an epic failure when it comes to providing a single shred of "proof" to support your bogus allegation.

 

[Seawytch]

There was a thread created awhile back with a video of a child from a same sex couple speaking in favor of gay marriage. Does that one child's opinion cancel out this one child's opinion?

Did that child live in a same sex household?

The two women are his parents. I imagine he lived in their household. Unless I'm not understanding your question correctly.

Where is the father?

There is no father, only a donor. The child still has two parents...which, as it turns out, is what kids need most.

That's obscene. Purposely putting the child at risk of harm so that two adults can play at parent.

Putting the child at risk of harm? How did you come up with THAT gem? We aren't playing, we are parents.

 

[Seawytch]

yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.

Post the studies you'll ignore again? Studies like the Australian study, the Tufts University Study or the University of California San Francisco study. How about the Florida State University study that looked at adopted kids?

Australian children with same-sex attracted parents score higher than population samples on a number of parent-reported measures of child health. Perceived stigma is negatively associated with mental health. Through improved awareness of stigma these findings play an important role in health policy, improving child health outcomes.

Results confirm previous studies in this current body of literature, suggesting that children raised by same-sex parents fare equally well to children raised by heterosexual parents.

Adolescents who have been reared in lesbian-mother families since birth demonstrate healthy psychological adjustment. These findings have implications for the clinical care of adolescents and for pediatricians who are consulted on matters that pertain to same-sex parenting.

Children of all family types (including children of same-sex couples) are far more likely to make normal progress through school than are children living in group quarters (such as orphanages and shelters).

Now where are YOUR studies, Elektra? In this game of "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", you are woefully short.

 

[Derideo_Te]

yea, I know, you people got a bunch of studies, well, post them studies so we can see how all you got is well thought out talking points in which to steer the debate.

Post the studies you'll ignore again? Studies like the Australian study, the Tufts University Study or the University of California San Francisco study. How about the Florida State University study that looked at adopted kids?

Australian children with same-sex attracted parents score higher than population samples on a number of parent-reported measures of child health. Perceived stigma is negatively associated with mental health. Through improved awareness of stigma these findings play an important role in health policy, improving child health outcomes.

Results confirm previous studies in this current body of literature, suggesting that children raised by same-sex parents fare equally well to children raised by heterosexual parents.

Adolescents who have been reared in lesbian-mother families since birth demonstrate healthy psychological adjustment. These findings have implications for the clinical care of adolescents and for pediatricians who are consulted on matters that pertain to same-sex parenting.

Children of all family types (including children of same-sex couples) are far more likely to make normal progress through school than are children living in group quarters (such as orphanages and shelters).

Now where are YOUR studies, Elektra? In this game of "I'll show you mine if you show me yours", you are woefully short.

The OP is quick to fling her own feces around but really slow when it comes to any actual substance to support her specious allegations.